Which was just as big of a part of the pre MCU identity of Iron Man in the comics before they had the balls to drop the "I AM Iron Man" line. Exploring a world in which people know Clark Kent is Supes and Bruce Wayne is Batman could open up a ton of new stories you can incorporate instead of redoing the Batman origin story for the 6492th time when you recast it in the DCEU. But WB won't ever take that risk because there is no one involved with DCEU that understands their characters enough to be able to pull of a competent story besides the rehashed shit over and over again.
I don't think the problem with DC is that they're showing the dual identities. I think the problem with a lot of the DC heroes is that the other identity for most of the heroes is incredibly boring. There are multiple examples of good Batman movies because Bruce Wayne is interesting. Clark Kent and Diana are incredibly boring and incapable of carrying any scene or story that doesn't involve other characters like Lois or Steve (and Lois has been a drag in pretty much every scene she's been in over the three movies she's appeared in during this DCU).
Could have just beefed up her boring identity....Imagine Diana as Tomb Raider.....that's the world we should be living in
Not good but didn’t think it was nearly as bad as some have said. Extremely meh and doubt I watch it again.
In the hands of a competent writer, having the public knowing who they are could make a boring aspect incredibly interesting. Who's to say Clark being exposed to the limelight in his daily life doesn't change him and turn him into a bit of a diva, or Bruce needing to deal with people knowing who he is? Captain America before the MCU was a boring as shit caricature until competent writers and directors made him amazing, and having no secret identities resulted in the MCU's version of Civil War being a logical and coherent story line as opposed to the convoluted Superhero Registration in the comics.
I'd have it on for background noise but yeah once it got into the max Lord stuff I fell asleep watching it the first two times.
Or his black sidekick, or the time he fought against racists in the 80's and again in the 90's and again in the... Damn our country has been racist a while.
Continuity question: Spoiler If she learned how to fly in 1984, why didn't she fly in any of the movies that take place after?
That power will be taken away in the next movie: Wonder Woman 1993 Get ready for a lot of Nirvana. A lot.
Reintroducing Cheetah to the opening of Come As You Are would be amazing: Come as you are, as you were As I want you to be As a friend, as a friend As an old enemy EDIT: to be clear, the use of "amazing" above was intended to mean amazingly cheesy.
I completely agree. Was looking for something to turn on and watch mindlessly and it did the trick. I wasn't really looking forward to it and didn't have high expectations but it was more or less exactly what I thought it'd be.
I feel like it had elements of a good movie and then failed to deliver on them. I really enjoyed a lot of the characters in the first and second acts and then it felt like there was a mad dash to raise the stakes to a ridiculous level without earning it then it similarly unwound this earth-ending crisis with a half-ass climax. Also a lot of the action just takes me completely out of the movie because the effects are so clunky and the whole flight thing was absurd.
I thought the second half was decent, not great. Took way to long for anything to be at stake in the movie. Also just some really pointless dumbfuck scenes they could have just not done at all.
WW1984 was a hot pile of garbage and I’d have been pissed if I had to pay to watch it. Spoiler WW can’t fly. The “0h my bad. I take it back.” Resolution was mind numbingly stupid. What the fuck was that bullshit.
Pine is great in that role. He's one of the only things that was able to make parts of this movie interesting in any way. But in this movie and anything beyond Steve Trevor is both a crutch and a weight that they need to leave behind.
there was a cool feminist story lurking in there of women always sacrificing for the good of everyone/Diana accepting being a god, but they completely botched it
Patty Jenkins crushed JL and what Whedon apparently did to the WW character in the movie. Said that movie changed her character from what it was and that she was pretending that movie didn't happen in future WW stories. I'm not here to defend Whedon for that movie (and especially not for some of the accusations and whatnot about him on it), but what was so bad about Diana in JL? That confused me. Especially after she turned around and made her character this boring in WW1984.
The only thing I recall reading about was Gadot refusing to do the "Flash falls face-first onto Diana's boobs" spot, and so Whedon used a stunt double because he was determined to keep that gag in there. Other than that, WW was basically invisible in the movie.
Also the weird shots where her ass is the entire focus of the shot despite the scenes having a ton of dialogue
I don’t post itt that much. I don’t know what “rules” are set up for spoilers. I didn’t want to be a jerk so I erred on the side of caution.
To be honest, I saw the movie once in theaters and never again so I don't really recall much of anything about it. I do remember chuckling at the one shot of Flash pushing a truck and, in the background, Superman is carrying like a whole house. That's about it.
Movie was just ok. It was hurt by being too long and weird editing choices. Pascal was really the only highlight for me.
I love when an actor goes for broke with a corny part. By act 3 he was chewing scenery like Raul Julia in Street Fighter
She does, Giganta, is a shape shifter but can also grow as tall as she wants, I don’t see DC being able to pull that off in a live action movie. There are some good villains if they go with a crossover for the 3rd movie: Queen Clea, ruler of an Atlantean version of the Amazons, would be a good crossover with Aquaman. Grail: The daughter of Darkseid and an Amazonian warrior, she’s essentially the polar opposite of WW. That villain would be a great stand alone or crossover villain.
I've thought for a while that the future of the DCEU is not the MCU template of "stand alone movies leading to a big team up" but instead a mix of stand alone movies and movies where characters pair up with another hero. A Superman/Wonder Woman movie. A Flash/Green Lantern movie, etc
For all of the shit, I’ll never forgive the DCEU for blowing probably the most monumental moment in comic book history(death of Supes) on their first phase in shitty fashion.
Should have happened after a solid trilogy of superman movies., leading into the next chapter of films.