Official Florida Gators Head coaching search thread - Sullen for Mullen, doing it again in 2020

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  1. The Banks

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    Herbert was 3 miles away from Autzen. Our entire staff was aware of him. There was a long standing internal debate whether or not to offer him. Greatwood (our OL coach), who was in charge of local recruiting, was the one that pressured Helfrich to offer him.
     
  2. The Banks

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    We don’t hate Frost, he’s just not near the top of our list if we were to look for a new coach.
     
  3. Handcuffed

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  4. Daniel Ocean

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    El Oh El
     
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  5. Aaron Hernandez

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    Doubt many people here are saying Frost over Kelly, but Frost is just clearly the way more likely option. However there is very obvious animosity with Frost itt.
     
  6. Mix

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    I don't think anyone has said Frost over Kelly.
     
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  7. Fusiontegra

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    It’s amazing that when UF fans quote all of the things that Oregon fans said about Chip when he left, as the reasons we’d be initially hesitant about him as a hire, they get all up in arms about it.
     
  8. The Banks

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    I’m sure some on here are aware, but Oregon had arguably the most connected TMB fanbase during the Chip and Helfrich eras.

    It’s not like this is some wild fanbase speculation.
     
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  9. Aaron Hernandez

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    Kind of feel silly now. Didn't know about the sources.
     
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  10. Thoros of Beer

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    How could this possibly be measured?
     
  11. The Banks

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    I think Oregon fans would unanimously agree that Chip would be a home run hire for Florida. His only real knock, recruiting, would be nothing like his tenure at Oregon. At Oregon he was forced to keep the staff he inherited. The staff that was old, lazy, complacent recruiters. He’d get to assemble his own staff and I’m sure they would kill it on the trail, relatively speaking.
     
  12. The Banks

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    Hence arguably.
     
  13. Fusiontegra

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    That’s not how recruiting works among the elite head coaches. He can’t rely on his assistants to carry him through his own mediocre recruiting. He’s either a good recruiter, or he isn’t.
     
  14. Thoros of Beer

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    Baseless arguments usually don't win
     
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  15. The Banks

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    I understand how recruiting works. I believe the perception of Chip’s recruiting would be different if we wasn’t surrounded by lazy, inept recruiters.
     
  16. Fusiontegra

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    I won’t claim to know anything about your staff, especially 5+ years ago, but why was he made to keep bums around?
     
  17. Magneto

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    He was a HCIW if I remember correctly.
     
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  18. Gata

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    magnets
     
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  19. BellottiBold

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    I tend to believe, along the lines of Joe_Pesci 's post, that Chip actually in many cases preferred the less heralded guys he ended up with to the elite guys he "missed" on. But it's tough to watch a program as invested in success as Oregon has been struggle to crack the top 10 class rankings, even with the built-in distance excuse. Also, when he was here, he and that "lazy old" staff proved themselves *mostly* quite good at evaluating talent.
     
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  20. BellottiBold

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    Accurate. Bellotti knew it would be a mistake to let him leave the program.
     
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  21. Magneto

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    With Fisher, Richt, Strong, Kiffin, and Butch Davis, one cannot afford to be an average (or worse) recruiter in Florida.
     
  22. The Banks

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    They weren’t bums. They were really good coaches that had been around for 10-20 years. They just weren’t good recruiters and used the excuse that “distance is a factor”. The fact that we had the most tenured staff in the country was a big part of our culture. Taggart was our first hire from outside the program in 40 years.
     
  23. Gata

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    He would have easier access to talent in FL though, even with the competition. And he can sell nfl experience now too.
     
  24. Gata

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    Didn't Belotti stay on as AD or some administrative position immediately after? Did he demand his old assistants be retained?
     
  25. Magneto

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    I mean sure he can, but didn't he go 1-15 or 2-14 last year?
     
  26. The Banks

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    Yes he was our AD for 9 months directly after Chip’s promotion before moving on to ESPN.
     
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  27. D. Silver

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    2-14 in SF his last year.

    Wasn't that the year half the team retired thought? Could be wrong.

    He did go 10-6 his first 2 years in Philly.
     
  28. Gata

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    I don't think that really matters. Sure it would be better to flash a Super Bowl ring, but he can still look those players/parents in the eye and speak on it with authority.
     
  29. Lenin

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    Congrats on having Mops and Chewie :loldog:
     
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  30. Aaron Hernandez

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    I think it speaks to their humility that TMB Oregon was kind of a big deal on the internet around the Kelly era and a lot of us didn't know about it.
     
  31. Clown

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    Scott Frost likes cats more than dogs, puts mustard on his hamburgers, and thought Season 2 of The Wire was the best
     
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  32. NoNatty

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    Chip made some terrible personnel decisions in Philly, but he can’t be blamed for the tire fire in SF.

    We have several guys who don’t post outside of our team board that worked on the football staff or in the AD. As Duck70 said, his brother played at Oregon, and his family is really connected.
     
  33. George Costanza

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    no mustard on burgers?

    [​IMG]
     
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  34. Gata

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    looks like Urban might be ready to make another move again
     
  35. Magneto

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    So you're saying Urban to Tennessee?
     
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  36. Gata

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    this isn't the Tennessee coaching search thread
     
  37. Jack Parkman

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    As guys like

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    Have shown, the NFL is a totally different animal and you can’t judge a college coach on his failures at the next level

    IVE GOT A CHIP BONER
     
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  38. Magneto

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    Didn't Petrino spend a total of like 11-12 games in the NFL?
     
  39. 41262

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    Chip Kelly was fired by the 49ers, but he still has three years remaining on his four-year, $24 million deal. If you do the math, that comes out to about $6 million per year, which means he has about $18 million left to be paid.

    Even better for Kelly? He's still getting paid by the Eagles. He was owed $13.4 million at the time of his firing, although since he was hired by San Francisco, there's an offset against future earnings in the contract that makes it so Kelly can't double-dip. This means the Eagles ended up owing Kelly about $1 million, or roughly $500,000 per year.

    http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/new...ed-69-million-nice/15anu76t7280f1i3c63i1rk3pc

    I wonder if he can be had for cheap until that deal runs out.
     
  40. Jack Parkman

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    He went 3-10 and ran back to CFB
     
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  41. Magneto

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    Was he the coach the year Vick spent in prison?
     
  42. Jack Parkman

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    Massnole I can't spend my day googling shit for you when I've got extensive chip kelly youtube videos to jerk off too
     
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  43. bigpig

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    Yes he went thinking he'd have Vick and would develop him as a pocket passer. Instead, dogs
     
  44. Fidelio

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    Late to the party, but Frost is the worst
     
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  45. huskerrolly

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    Sorry GAYTURDS Frost is coming home :usasmug:
     
  46. Gata

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    we already decided on Chip, but still might take Frost
     
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  47. D. Silver

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    Guess you missed where we're Chip'n






    unless we're not
     
  48. The Banks

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    :ohgosh:
     
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  49. Magneto

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    Didn't realize David Shaw was leaving Stanford.