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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by Joe Louis, Jul 12, 2010.

  1. billdozer

    billdozer Well-Known Member
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    They're probably offering a Roth 401k option with your 401k. Whether you go with a Roth 401k depends on your tax bracket now and what you think your tax bracket may be at retirement. You can do 19k to pre-tax, to Roth, or a split. Any employer match would be to the pre-tax.

    https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Traditional_versus_Roth
     
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  2. BrickTamland

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    PAHokie 401k contribution balance between traditional and Roth is beyond my understanding, but I max my yearly via Roth completely.

    Best I figure I’ll be taxed higher when I’m older, so I’ll take the hit now.

    Also, the $6k Roth I mentioned is your personal Roth IRA through Vanguard or whoever. That’s a bare minimum starting point.
     
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  3. Hail Southern

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    BYND After Hours :ohgosh:
     
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  4. Drunkle Tom

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    AMD had a hell of a day as well.
     
  5. texasraider

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    approaching a $7B market cap.

    They lost $6.6MM on $87.9MM of revenue

    this doesn't seem sustainable
     
  6. Hail Southern

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    Agreed, I believe their food and "impossible foods" will be the future and is something I believe in. Never put your heart in a stock.
     
  7. texasraider

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    I'm willing to try it but it doesn't exactly look like it's even that healthy tbh.
     
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  8. Doc Louis

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    The places here that serve it seem to charge more for products with it. If I'm paying $15+ for a burger I'd rather have beef.
     
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  9. Doc Louis

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    I'm sorry you lost money on orig. I didn't. But I'm sorry you did.
     
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  10. lechnerd

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    I’m sorry you missed out on Merck last year. I made enough to buy a pool. You didn’t and I’m sorry you didn’t.
     
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  11. Doc Louis

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    Don't care, the Gantz's have a nicer pool.
     
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  12. Bo Pelinis

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    Fuck off
     
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  13. Arliden

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    Haha 34% for BYND today
     
  14. Arliden

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    lol plus another 23% today
     
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  15. PeterGriffin

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    absurd. What news popped that sparked this? It was capped at ~100 for the longest.
     
  16. Arliden

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    Their 1st earnings report was a couple days ago and I believe revenue came in higher than estimates.
     
  17. texasraider

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    marginally. And they're still losing money. And they're revenues are minuscule

    but sure. It's a $10 billion company
     
  18. letan

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    Yea it’s insane. I’m upset with myself for not getting in back around $70 though when I realized it was going to trade on momentum and not any fundamentals.
     
  19. Drunkle Tom

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    And just as quickly as they rise, they can fall. BYND down 21% today so far.
     
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  20. Gallant Knight

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    Ok enough is enough
     
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  21. Hail Southern

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    Is there a good instruction guide somewhere to teach me about puts and calls
     
  22. Taques

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    instructions for options: literally gambling, throw your money in a trash fire instead
     
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  23. Hail Southern

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    I get the home loan argument but cars are 99% of the time a depreciating asset, that's why.

    One day this will be more affordable than actual beef and then we will see a paradigm shift in what grocery consumers purchase.
     
  24. lechnerd

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    So what good does it do to pay off the loan early?
     
  25. Hail Southern

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    The idea is to not take out a loan on cars and toys like boats, pay cash for these items. In your argument, you are only calculating loan interest but the losses is much greater than the 2% "fee" at the end of the loan.
     
  26. lechnerd

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    Oh ok.

    Thats practical advice for most of the population. "Just pay cash for your car".

    And since when did a car only become a "toy".

    Most people need their car to get to work, take their kids to daycare, get groceries, etc.

    :facepalm:
     
  27. PeterGriffin

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    How did you make it through Doctor Kevorkian's Medical College if you can't read?
     
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  28. Gallant Knight

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    BYND down like 40 points today :)

    puts up 35% in an hour
     
  29. texasraider

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    sell now because tomorrow it'll go up 20% because it's product is just so darn neat
     
  30. Gallant Knight

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    i am definitely considering it
     
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  31. Taques

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    MSFT and ABT at 52-week highs :badger:
     
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  32. Hail Southern

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    You need a car, most people can save $5k for a cash car. No reason for a 25K loan. Most peoples ego's and keeping up with the joneses won't let them do this.

    One more cool thing about cheap 3-6K cars is they don't depreciate at near the rate of a 25K+ car used or new.

    Cars and toys are two different things, that is your boats, motorcycles, riding lawnmowers when a push would work fine. But I always suggest keeping them tallied in your "total cost of vehicles" and all things in this category should be paid for with cash.
     
  33. Gallant Knight

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    i know of zero people who consider their car an investment.

    if i showed up to work meetings in a $5k beater i would lose significantly more money than my car payment every month.
     
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  34. Gallant Knight

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    sold for 27% gain
     
  35. lechnerd

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    $3k car :roll:

    I’m sure that would be pretty dependable getting me to work.

    You sound to me like an author of one of those ridiculous CNBC articles...

    “Couple retires at 30, lives off $680 per month, here’s there totally believable budget:”
     
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  36. Frank Martin

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    If I take out a 30k loan at 2% and I get a 6% interest on 30k in the stock market I’ve just pocketed 4%

    Would be dumb to buy the car in cash.
     
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  37. Gallant Knight

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    spent $20k on furniture a year ago and i'll be paying it off until 2024 at .5%
     
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  38. lechnerd

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    Yeah but your couch is a depreciating asset.
     
  39. Hail Southern

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  40. Joystick Izzy

    Joystick Izzy Well-Known Member
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    The problem is, you aren't guaranteed 6% in the stock market over any given 3-5 year period. Long-term, sure. But if a car loan is for 3-5 years, you can't predict a 6% annual return.
     
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  41. Gallant Knight

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    It someone loans you money at 1-2% take as Much as they’ll give you
     
  42. BrickTamland

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    The argument for paying off like sub 5% lines is not an economic one.

    It’s an emotional one.

    That doesn’t make it right or wrong, it’s just what it is.
     
  43. Bo Pelinis

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    Well, it's mostly emotional. There's economic justification, as well, for certain people in certain circumstances, the biggest being if you think there will be an economic downturn and your money would be better served out of the market. You can't get a savings account rate for more than a mortgage rate.

    We've lived through an amazing run as adults but at some point there will have to be a correction.
     
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  44. Gallant Knight

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    bought some BABA puts. would've love for them to say in the next couple of months that they need to restate their financials for the last 10 quarters
     
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  45. TDCD

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    Any book recs for beginners? I’ll hang up and listen.
     
  46. Gallant Knight

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    beginning options trading?

    honestly the best resource was tmbrules but i guess he got ran off
     
  47. TDCD

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    Should have been more clear, beginning retail trading

    Right now my portfolio is just a few mutual funds I never touch
     
  48. Joystick Izzy

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    I never argued against that. Just pointed out you can't assume a 6% return over a short time period.

    Also, if they're loaning you money to use for legitimate needs, of course. But just because I can get a $100k car loan at 2% doesn't make it a smart move. I don't need $100k car.
     
  49. Gallant Knight

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    agree with that. meant more of a loan where you get the $ not a loan where you have to purchase something.
     
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  50. Bo Pelinis

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    Most people can't just get a basic line of credit at 1 or 2% without it being tied to some collateral.