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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by Joe Louis, Jul 12, 2010.

  1. jcb-r

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    It's a wash if you're selling the entire position at once.
     
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  2. Chumbolone

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    Any other bogleheads on here aside from Lyrtch?

    I’m curious what people think about the argument that passive index investing is getting to large and there may be edge in managed ETFs… the common argument being in a managed ETF you would have sold GameStop or acted on unique market actions, instead of riding it up and down as a part of the total market?

    Avantis and DFA are the ones I hear people recommend, there are threads on bogleheads that argue for and against it, curious of other’s thoughts?
     
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  3. Lyrtch

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    It's been a topic for a long time and it's not been coercive at all. Doesn't help that the folks making it run managed funds.
     
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  4. TAS

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    Team Passive.

    How much exposure to shit stocks like GME do you even get with total market/S&P 500 funds?
     
  5. Chumbolone

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    Fair point.
     
  6. BP

    BP Bout to Regulate.
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    That CPI is gonna be huge tomorrow
     
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  7. kinghill

    kinghill Cool American Flavour
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    Finally... it wasn't too long ago when this sucker trickled down month by month from 2% to 0.5%. Now going back up.

    "Your Online Savings Account rate is increasing from 0.50% to 0.60% Annual Percentage Yield (APY) on all balance tiers. Your new APY goes into effect on 05/11/2022"
     
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  8. ScFan27

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    Market will continue to tank if it is.
     
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  9. Hoss Bonaventure

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    Shit, try being in your 40’s and not knowing what to do with money.
     
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  10. kinghill

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    Oh I'm still trying to remove myself from that club. Made some good progress over the past 3 years but have a long way to go.
     
  11. billdozer

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    I am. I think that if the market gets out of balance, active management will increase to take advantage and help bring it back.
     
  12. brolift

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    Emergency fund more important in times like these than ever before.
     
  13. Lyrtch

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    why?
     
  14. TAS

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    This sounds a bit like timing the market, but for managers instead of individual stocks/funds.

    I'm sure there are active strategies that will work better in the short term, but how are you going to determine which is the right active manager for this unique moment in history and when to get in/out (assuming you think passive is the better play long term)?
     
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  15. BP

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    If they announce inflation has risen since last month then markets would continue their drop IMO. Although the article I read said economists expect it to be slightly better, like .3 %. Could set the tone for the rest of the month.
     
  16. Lyrtch

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    i read your post as you were predicting a real high print but now realize you were just saying it was important

    my bad hah
     
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  17. billdozer

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    I'm not going to (was answering the question if others are Bogleheads), but others will think they can do better.
     
  18. Sportfan

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    Of course anecdotal but I don’t feel like prices have flattened at all.

    Either way, no matter what happens tomorrow, you’ll be able to write a narrative that explains the move.
     
  19. Sportfan

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    I think actively managed funds get taken to the woodshed by the passive ETFs. Something like only 20% of actively traded funds beat VOO?
     
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  20. Bo Pelinis

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    Doubt it’s anywhere close to that high on a long enough time horizon.
     
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  21. poetictrojan

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    There are actively managed funds that absolutely beat the market but most suck. The key is to find those good ones. Problem is most money managers put your money in a specific fund or etf family because kickbacks are higher or they are their proprietary products. Voo or a large cap blend should be the staple. With that said you can absolutely find alpha in small/ mid cap or large growth. There are also international funds that shit on broad based ETFs. Keys to look for are low fees and tenure of fund manager. Those two factors have the highest correlation with outperforming the indexes. Another good strategy is to look into sector ETFs. Pay attention close enough and you can figure out the sector cycle and still hold low cost diversified ETFs while beating the market.
     
  22. kinghill

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    ARKK crushes the market
     
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  23. fish

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    Started at the top, now we bottom... right?
     
  24. kinghill

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    this response posted Feb 18, 2021 didn't even get any likes and it should have
     
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  25. brolift

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    Trader propaganda.
     
  26. Bo Pelinis

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    More discounts!
     
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  27. The Hebrew Husker

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    Welp, maybe I’ll fill out whatever form they need to update my checking account info so I can buy some I Bonds!
     
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  28. BP

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    Fuck it let’s just get all the correction out of the way now.
     
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  29. WC

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  30. Bo Pelinis

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  31. Chumbolone

    Chumbolone Wigglin’ my toes on a mink rug…
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  32. fsugrad99

    fsugrad99 I'm the victim here
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    Can I get an NFT of that?
     
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  33. Bricktop the white

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    My prediction last year had been that the flashpoint for the next major recession was going to either be the collapse of tesla or the collapse of crypto.

    I really thought it was going to be tesla first though.
     
  34. ohhaithur

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    Peloton the product has its place

    Peloton the company is a hilarious case study in having a unicorn fall in your lap and still finding a way to fail
     
  35. TAS

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    I assume all the active managers saw this one coming

     
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  36. BP

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    They’ve been halted like 4 times today. That has to be the most manipulated stock in history.
     
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  37. WC

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    *non Elon stocks
     
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  38. TAS

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    Yeah was about to say, there are multiple ongoing and past SEC investigations into Elon's malfeasance
     
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  39. WC

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    The Elon joke was easy but this thread as noted lots of times since the meme stock fad that traditional forms of stock/security trading manipulate shit all the time, but it’s just viewed differently.

    It’s all a sham.
     
  40. FelipeG

    FelipeG Well-Known Member

    I looked earlier today and I'm down $100K in my retirement accounts since Oct/Nov 2021.
     
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  41. Joystick Izzy

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    Are you retiring soon? If so, Ts and Ps. If not, it’s unimportant.
     
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  42. Paddy Murphy

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    I don’t know how “popular” quantifies things, but this seems suboptimal.
     
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  43. dukebuckeye

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    I love Peloton. I have the tread and the bike. I don't own the stock.
     
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  44. honestlee

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    Just stumbled upon the Luna subreddit. It's terrifying. The sticked post is a suicide prevention line.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/terraluna/
     
  45. Chumbolone

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    Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered.
     
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  46. TAS

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    As someone who regularly rides for hours outside, an indoor bike most certainly has a place, especially in shittier climates like Houston

    And I've never been on a peloton, but I've been on some good spin bikes and I've been on some really bad spin bikes, so I don't see the issue with springing for a premium bike.
     
  47. Doc Louis

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    Should've put that money in top shot
     
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  48. The Hebrew Husker

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    Holy shit I didn’t realize this all basically happened today/this week
     
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  49. brolift

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    Repricing. Bear market with high inflation. Bigly correction will continue