***Official Miami Dolphins Thread pt 2 - We losing everybody***

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  1. LeonardWashington

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    Damn Todd, McShay, and Kiper didn't like the Tankersly pick
     
  2. Flintheart Glomgold

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    Good scheme fit for us too.
     
  3. Sterling A

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    Ya they really slammed him

    Feels good, he'll probably be a great pick now
     
  4. Jack Parkman

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    Will be interesting to see if we keep the 3 5th rounders or use them to jump into the 4th

    Can't believe we gave up so much for caroo
     
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  5. Jack Parkman

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    Day 3 who do you guys want?

    I wouldn't mind that big poly Utah OG, Jake Butt or Switzer in the 5th
     
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  6. LeonardWashington

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    Like all 3. The DT from Clemson but doubt he makes it past the 4th. The Iowa DT is the last one that's kinda intriguing to me. That position is pretty picked over
     
  7. Wu

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    Homer pick but I like Lawson at this stage
     
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  8. LeonardWashington

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    Homer alert but Eddie Jackson was a 5* and all American type player before his injury. Useful in the return game too. I wouldn't mind using a fifth round flier on a talent like that at a position of need at all
     
  9. LeonardWashington

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    I'd take him all day on upside rn.

    And that says a lot coming from me. I'm not very fond of AU
     
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  10. danny2430

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    Dorian Johnson, Asiata, Zach Banner, or even a risk like Roderick Johnson.

    All would have a good chance to improve the line
     
  11. Jigga

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    David Sharpe

    Kidding
     
  12. Wu

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    Wouldn't mind taking another RB as well
     
  13. danny2430

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    Sounds like Dorian Johnson was not cleared by multiple teams and has major health concers. Explains his slip
     
  14. LeonardWashington

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    Gators and Canes, what is the book on OGs Sharpe and Isidore? Would you be pleased with either?
     
  15. Jack Parkman

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    Sharpe is big but just average

    Although if that one rumor is true about him being almost blind in one eye it would explain a lot
     
  16. LeonardWashington

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    Lots of good pass catchers left...I obviously am an SEC guy and watch much more of those games but I was always impressed with Duval and Dupree of LSU. TEs Legett, Bucky Hodges and Butt still around too. Gase seems to really want to upgrade at those positions even though we should have enough talent there
     
  17. KeepingItRealSince1853

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    My homer pick is Caleb Brantley
     
  18. Wu

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    Took Isaac Asiata

    Really like the pick
     
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  19. LeonardWashington

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    Of those remaining, the LSU guys look p good. Godchaux at DT, Dupree, Duval. Bucky Hodges still there at TE. Hell I wouldn't feel bad about Kaaya either...Matt Moore is damn expensive, but he's down the list a little. Isidora is intriguing too. We need better depth and competition at OL, so the more the merrier imo.
     
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  20. Wu

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    Wizard
     
  21. LeonardWashington

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    Damn this thread is fucking running the Phins! We have nailed a ton of these picks!
     
  22. Jack Parkman

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  23. Wu

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    It was going so well
     
  24. LeonardWashington

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    I mean he's a headcase but Swag can ball
     
  25. LeonardWashington

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    One thing is for certain... we got a shitload better vs the run this offseason :feelsgoodman:

    It is beyond frustrating to watch your team be helplessly gashed by the run like we did all last season
     
  26. Flintheart Glomgold

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    That was a quality 5th round for us
     
  27. Wu

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    Kaaya went to the Lions

     
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  30. CF3234

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    I don't find that face palm worthy . That's a position that sees a ton of turnover.
     
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    I think he's face palming that the guy brought it up since it's such an important position of need.
     
  32. Jack Parkman

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  34. Wu

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    Overall solid draft that addressed our needs with the first few picks, so I can't complain. It's obvious they're trying to establish a good locker room culture which I'm 100% behind.
     
  35. Jack Parkman

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    WR Isaiah Ford, Dolphins, Round 7 (pick 237): I gave Ford a mid-to-late second-round grade based on watching his tape and seeing him play live this fall. While he didn't run well at the NFL Scouting Combine, I was shocked that he was still available in the seventh round. He is a smooth route runner and tracks the ball very naturally. He can high-point the ball in the red zone and I think he has the tools to develop into a solid No. 2 receiver. The Dolphins found a good one. -- Daniel Jeremiah
     
  36. FSUnole1988

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    As a VA high school coach who has seen him in practice several times I was shocked he was available in the 7th
     
  37. Jack Parkman

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  39. CF3234

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    Chargers just cut Orlando Franklin.

    Yes please
     
  40. Wu

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    Got tickets to final home game of the season

    Hopefully we have something to play for or at least locked up playoffs by then
     
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  41. Sterling A

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    [​IMG]Offseason Grades


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    What went right

    They hammered the draft on defense. Offensive coaches have a habit of falling in love with weapons and targeting them at the expense of defensive help in the draft (see: Payton, Sean). It's promising, then, that Adam Gase's Dolphins used their first three picks to add sorely needed depth on the defensive side of the football, most notably edge rusher Charles Harris in the first round. Harris has the best case to eventually be standing as the long-term replacement for the 35-year-old Cameron Wake, but given how Wake looked after recovering from a torn Achilles last season, he might never come off the field.

    They bought low on trades for Julius Thomas and William Hayes. Harris, whom the Dolphins acquired from the Rams by moving down 17 spots from their sixth-round pick, will be part of a deep rotation at defensive end, as Miami also brought back Andre Branch. Hayes has benefited from playing alongside some great pass-rushers in the past and had a frustrating season in 2016, but he's a reasonable one-year flyer at $4.8 million.

    Thomas is a bigger bet, but you can certainly understand some of the logic in acquiring a tight end who excelled as a red zone weapon under Gase before flopping in Jacksonville. I'm not sure Gase was particularly brilliant in how he used Thomas in Denver -- a lot of what Thomas ended up doing was simply going up and beating overmatched defenders for the ball, which was a lot easier with a Hall of Fame quarterback in Peyton Manning than it was with the broken JUGS machine that was Blake Bortles -- but the Dolphins aren't paying much to find out if Gase has something special up his sleeve. They'll pay $5.5 million to Thomas this season and can get out of the deal with a $2 million buyout next year.

    They took a shot on T.J. McDonald. It's hard to get too much credit for signing a player who is suspended for the first eight games of the 2017 season, but McDonald looked like a superstar in the making in 2014 and was a competent safety the past couple seasons. It's a worthwhile flyer at just $1.3 million, and the Dolphins could net a compensatory pick if McDonald gets a bigger deal next year.


    What went wrong
    They repeatedly outspent the market to bring back their own players. It seemed that there was a two-week stretch in March when the Dolphins were handing out blank checks.
    Kenny Stills got $19.5 million guaranteed as part of a four-year, $32 million deal. Reshad Jones amassed a five-year, $60 million deal with a whopping $35 million in guarantees. Branch, signed off the scrap heap last March, was given a three-year, $24 million deal with $16.8 million guaranteed, including $10 million next season. Competent linebacker Kiko Alonso nabbed $18.5 million in guarantees on a four-year, $28 million deal. The Dolphins even reached out and gave Lawrence Timmons a two-year, $12 million deal with $11 million guaranteed.

    In each of those cases, the Dolphins were paying a massive premium, usually in guaranteeing extra years or extra dollars. These players aren't useless by any means, but there's enormous downside risk if they get injured, and it's hard to argue that they were irreplaceable. Stills' speed helps open up the offense, but he isn't the only fast receiver available, and his production is predicated upon an unsustainable touchdown total in 2016. Branch wasn't even very effective last season, and the Dolphins could have taken a flyer on the next Branch to slot in alongside Harris and Hayes. Timmons isn't going to be a coverage linebacker at this point of his career -- the Patriots carved him up in the playoffs -- and two-down run-stopping linebackers are bargains.

    Jones is the only player who would qualify as likely to be very good over the length of his deal, but even he got far more than other strong safeties. The Dolphins now have $175.9 million committed to their 2018 cap, and that's before thinking about a new deal for Jarvis Landry. Miami spent like it desperately needed to hold onto the pieces of a 10-6 team, but it was outscored by 17 points last season. The Dolphins' run to the playoffs came on the back of an 8-2 record in games decided by seven points or fewer, with those wins coming against teams that were a combined 31-80-1. There's a good chance the Dolphins are too optimistic about their progress, and if they're wrong, they won't be able to get out of any of these deals until 2019.

    They didn't supplement their offensive line. Part of the opportunity cost in spending so much on guys who profile as third wideouts or two-down linebackers is that the Dolphins weren't able to commit resources to the interior of their offensive line. It made sense for Miami to ship out the disgruntled Branden Albert and move Laremy Tunsil to his natural position at left tackle, and the team is set on the right side with Ja'Wuan James, but the interior is ... spotty.

    Part of the problem is that Mike Pouncey hasn't been able to get healthy. Pouncey is a Pro Bowl-caliber center when on the field, but he hasn't made it through 16 games since 2012, and he missed 11 games with a hip ailment last season. He underwent a stem cell procedure for the hip this spring, but the Dolphins have little behind him. They will have to hope that Anthony Steen, who was forced into the lineup last season, can hold up at guard alongside converted tackle Jermon Bushrod, who simply wasn't very good but still found his way back on a one-year, $3 million deal. Offensive linemen were hard to come by this offseason, but the only notable additions Miami made were Bears castoff Ted Larsen and fifth-round pick Isaac Asiata.

    What's next?
    Re-signing Landry. The Dolphins have backed themselves into a tough spot. They paid a lot of money to retain Stills, have a first-round pick seemingly on the verge of a breakout in DeVante Parker and are only a year past trading third-, fourth- and sixth-round picks for Leonte Carroo, who was anonymous as a rookie. They've committed significant resources to their wide receiver corps, and their 2018 cap situation is already rough.

    Ryan Tannehill. The closest comparison for Landry in terms of style is Tavon Austin, who got a (disastrous) four-year, $42 million deal with $28.5 million in guarantees from the Rams, and Landry's on another planet in terms of production. The franchise tag is a realistic landing spot for Landry in 2018, but that would push the Dolphins over $190 million in cap charges and force them to make drastic cuts elsewhere. Landry has the leverage to get a massive deal, and the Dolphins might have no choice but to give him one.

    Grade: D+
     
  42. ATXCane03

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    That has to be a Bill Barnwell grade
     
  43. Wu

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    Literally everyone said we got cheaper than market rate for Stills and he was willing to take less money to stay
     
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  45. LeonardWashington

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    seems like he only really totally disagreed with the Stills, Branch, and Timmons overlays (I agree with him) but didn't have a problem with much else? For that, we get a D+?

    Stills may come back to bite us in the ass but let's see if he builds on last year. With that deal we will just have so much money tied up in WR after the Jarvis deal when IF it comes time to pay Parker
     
  46. Jack Parkman

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    Armando saying Parker has been killing it this offseason

     
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    The Miami Herald's Armando Salguero believes Julius Thomas is "going to be a thing" this year, and the Dolphins have "multiple plays" designed just for him.

    The same could be said for most offenses; the good ones design plays for all their best players. But it's at least notable in Thomas' case. He played for coach Adam Gase in Denver and caught a whopping 24 touchdowns in 27 games for the Broncos. Now healthy and out of Jacksonville where Thomas admits he didn't fit schematically, Gase has shown the best knowledge of how to feature the tight end. OC Clyde Christensen has said Thomas could score 10-plus TDs
     
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  50. Wu

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    I'm really optimistic he can elevate his game this year, which would make our receiving corps dynamic and lethal.