***Official Miami Dolphins Thread pt 2 - We losing everybody***

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  1. CF3234

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    I agree with you and agree that he deserves to be a first ballot HoFer. Its not like I was the only one who thought he might have to wait. Multiple SFL media members had that same concern when he retired. Lebatard spent some time discussing it when he was named a finalist.
     
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    Nothing to see here
     
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    I'd definitely be ok with him in the 3rd. Maybe the second...seems to have been awesome down in Mobile
     
  7. Jack Parkman

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    Mcshays latest has us taking the cane TE first round:

    Njoku comes with loads of upside, thanks to rare athleticism for the position and big-play ability, including 16.2 yards per reception. There's not much of a gap between Njoku and Alabama's O.J. Howard for the No. 1 TE ranking. BothJordan Cameron and Dion Sims are set to be free agents for the Dolphins, so the fit would make sense for Njoku to stay in Miami.
     
  8. CF3234

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    Love njoku and he's going to be a beast in the NFL. But I still think that 1st round pick should be used on defense.
     
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  9. Sterling A

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    [​IMG]1. Cut DE Mario Williams. Let's start with one of the easiest moves any team will make this offseason. Williams was a healthy scratch by the end of the year, and the Dolphins will save $8.5 million with his release. They can add another $8.2 million in savings by releasing defensive tackle Earl Mitchell and linebacker Koa Misi, which would have the Fins approaching $45 million in cap space.

    2. Pick up QB Ryan Tannehill's contract for 2017. Although Tannehill didn't have the sort of breakout year people looking at Miami's record might have thought, he's still the best option the Dolphins have under center. Matt Moore might be a more cost-effective choice, but the Dolphins continue to find competence with Tannehill, who will admittedly be overpaid with a $20.3 million cap hit in 2017.


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    3. Lock up WR Jarvis Landry. One of the more unique players in football, the former LSU standout is entering the final year of his rookie deal, which will be the first in which his cap hit will top even $1 million (at $1.1 million). Landry's 288 catches over his first three seasons might inflate his actual value, given that a good chunk of his receptions are essentially long handoffs. Landry caught 61 passes within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage last year, a figure topped only by Larry Fitzgerald among wideouts.

    Those catches still count, of course, and Landry is in line for a massive deal. The closest comp to Landry as a player is Tavon Austin, who got $30 million over the first three years of his deal with the Rams, but Landry has been far more productive than the inconsistent, underutilized Austin. His agents will look for a deal closer to the contract T.Y. Hilton extracted out of the Colts, which was good for $38 million over the first three seasons of the extension.

    4. Allow WR Kenny Stills to leave. If the Dolphins re-sign Landry (or at least intend to do so), there's not much of a case for locking up Stills. The deep threat would be Miami's third wideout behind Landry and 2015 first-rounder DeVante Parker, and while the Dolphins spent 690 offensive snaps in three-wideout looks this season, Mike Tannenbaum would be committing a staggering sum of money to wide receivers given what Stills is likely to make on the free market.

    The reality is also that Stills is still more of a prospect than anything else. His numbers this season were buoyed by an unsustainable touchdown rate. Through the first three years of his career, Stills caught 11 touchdowns on 122 receptions, or one every 11.1 receptions. Last year, Stills had nine TDs on 42 catches, or one every 4.7 receptions. Wideouts with that sort of touchdown rate almost always regress to the mean, especially in the modern game. Since 1990, receivers who caught 30 or more passes and scored once every five receptions or less averaged a touchdown once every 11.7 receptions the following season. Stills has averaged 41 catches per season, so at that rate, he's in line for three to four touchdowns next year. Torrey Smith's 2014-2015 seasons loom as a plausible comp and a warning sign to teams thinking about giving Stills $8 million or so per year.

    5. Re-sign DE Andre Branch and LB Kiko Alonso. Alonso is a restricted free agent, so the Dolphins can tender him a deal at the second-round level and likely not have to worry about losing him to another offer while using the leverage to negotiate a longer-term deal. Branch was more useful at defensive end than Williams and counts as a nice reclamation project for the Dolphins after he struggled to make an impact in Jacksonville. A return makes sense for both parties.
     
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    I'm ok with all of that but we need to develop a deep threat with Jarvis having the short passes covered. Also, if we don't resign Earl Mitchell we will have to basically totally rebuild the DL other than Suh in the next year or two. He's not a must keep player but he is an average DT. It puzzles me how relatively little talk the need for us to rebuild the DL gets relative to the importance. Maybe I'm just being a chicken little there but after Suh and and old Wake we don't have much there.

    I doubt we do but I really hope we go huge on defense in the draft
     
  11. Flintheart Glomgold

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    Jordan Phillips has been pretty good and you would hope continues to improve. My feeling wouldn't be hurt if we took a DT/DE in the first to be honest
     
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    I know some disagree but I think Mitchell sucks. PFF isn't everything but it reflects that he is a below average DT but he did improve from last season a little bit. We seemed to play a lot better at DT when Mitchell came back, even though he's nothing special.

    I would love if we would sign a guy like JPP (who is still only 28), or a quality player that may come cheap like Washington's Chris Baker though he is likely more of a 3-4 guy. In the draft, he likely won't but I would go crazy in Barnett fell to us. I like Tak from UCLA too but he may have to be an OLB which is fine. This seems to be a deep TE and CB draft so I think we can wait on those, though I doubt Gase/Tannebaum will. Hope we go D early and grab a TE in the mid-rounds.
     
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    4 of the top 5 picks should be Defense
     
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  15. Flintheart Glomgold

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    dolphins release Brandon Albert per twitter
     
  16. LeonardWashington

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    Damn! Not that surprising but I thought we would wait a little while. His play had slipped a ton and too expensive for an oft-injured player imo

    Omar will have a cow
     
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    I'm gonna guess they asked him to take a pay cut and move inside and he said no. Guy was always hurt and inconsistent. The money can be used better elsewhere imo.
     
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    Its the right move to make IMO. He played well when he was healthy, but ultimately too much money at this point. Need Gs in the worst way now
     
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    Anybody understand the pre/post June 1 cut stuff? We cut him today and saved 7.2 mill on the cap but overthecap.com says if he was cut post June 1 we could save almost 9 mill. Was their a bonus pending or something that made it not worthwhile to wait until after June 1 to cut him?
     
  20. Wu

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    Time for Tunsil to step up
     
  21. Sub-Zero

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    no reason to believe that won't happen tbh. I'm not as worried about him as I am just finding another capable guard.
     
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    If you cut the player post June 1st, some of his cap hit can be held over to next year. It's a great short term move to cut guys post June 1st, but eventually that cap hit hurts you.
     
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    It splits his remaining guaranteed money over two seasons instead of one e.g. 3.6 owed becomes 1.8 this year and next.
     
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    Mario Williams, not surprisingly, also released. looks like we will land somewhere between $45-50m in cap space
     
  25. Sterling A

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    Earl Mitchell just got cut as well
     
  26. LeonardWashington

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    Yeah only mildly surprised at that. He's still only a mediocre player at best and he was somewhat overpaid to be just another guy. Only a tad surprised b/c of the lack of depth there and the lack of quality players. Looks like we may be active on the DL market for both starters and some depth
     
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    What big name cb is available?
     
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    Joe Haden was on the block last season. Rodgers-Cromartie maybe?
     
  31. Flintheart Glomgold

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    Armando Salguero of the Miami Herald is reporting that the Dolphins are not releasing LTBranden Albert after all.

    According to Salguero, the Dolphins made the decision to release Albert this morning but later changed their mind after speaking to him and his agents.

    A league source tells Salguero that there is “sudden and significant interest” from at least one and possibly other teams in trading for Albert.

    The Dolphins are still expected to move forward with Laremy Tunsil as their starting left tackle, but it appears as though Miami may be able to get something in return for Albert.
     
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    :gross:
     
  33. LeonardWashington

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    Shit I would love DRC. Grimes had a great year last year, of course. We probably had to part ways with him tho
     
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    Let's go get Vontae Davis back
     
  35. Sterling A

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    Was stupid to trade vontae and also not resign sean smith, both are still very good corners
     
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    If we do really get Julius Thomas for Albert that would be awesome. He is a tad overpaid, but he had huge production in Gase's offense. I'd take him for sure
     
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    Would grandma be ok with this?
     
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  39. CF3234

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    Where do you see this rumor?

    Also. Thomas is always hurt as well
     
  40. Sterling A

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    I'd love it, then we dont have to spend a draft pick on a tight end and really load up on defense
     
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    Say whaaat
     
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    If he can revert back to the TE he was in Denver that would be a helluva pickup
     
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    • One of the reasons the Dolphins are moving on from Branden Albert was this realization: With the expectation that Laremy Tunsil will excel at left tackle, they believe they can find a guard for considerably less money than the $8.87 million that Albert was due to make had he remained with the Dolphins next season.

    Consider that the New England Patriots paid less that $1 million combined for the guards who started in the Super Bowl: Joe Thuney ($450,000) and Shaq Mason ($525,000)
    The Dolphins believe that if they make smart decisions, they can find guards at good value.

    There are several quality guards expected to hit free agency, but Kevin Zeitler (rated seventh among all guards by Pro Football Focus) would be pricey, as would TJ Lang (eighth), Larry Warford (20th) and Ronald Leary (24th).
    One impending free agent guard who has a history with Adam Gase: Patrick Omameh, who graded out well as the Bears right guard in 2015 when Gase was offensive coordinator (two sacks allowed in 11 games) and allowed no sacks in eight games at left guard for Jacksonville last season before a foot injury
    Omameh, 27, was PFF’s No. 31 guard last season.

    The Dolphins could fill one guard spot with a reasonably priced free agent and the other with some combination of Kraig Urbik, Anthony Steen or a draft pick. Jermon Bushrod is an impending free agent.

    • Colleague Armando Salguero reported today about ongoing conversations between the Dolphins and Jaguars regarding a trade involving Albert, with tight end Julius Thomas possibly coming to Miami in such a deal.

    All parties involved would be happy to see that Albert/Jaguars deal materialize.

    Of that trade, one involved party texted today: “Hopefully will get done. Still things to be ironed out.”

    If the Dolphins were to get Thomas, keep in mind that he thrived in Denver when Gase was offensive coordinator there in 2013 and 2014.

    In 2013, he caught 12 touchdown passes (third in the league among tight ends), 65 passes (ninth among tight ends) for 12.1 yards per catch (13th). In 2014, he caught 43 passes for 489 yards and his 12 TD catches tied for the league lead among tight ends.

    Last season, playing with erratic quarterback Blake Bortles in Jacksonville, he caught 30 passes for 281 yards and four touchdowns.

    The bad news: Thomas is due $7 million next season, with an $8.3 million cap hit. He’s due $8.5 million and $9 million the following two seasons, though the Dolphins always could renegotiate.

    • With Earl Mitchell’s release, Jordan Phillips becomes the likely starter at defensive tackle opposite Ndamukong Suh.

    “I had a better year but not as consistent as I need to be,” Phillips told me late last season. “I need to play better. It’s not about making plays. It’s knowing I dominated the person in front of me. I didn’t do that enough.”

    Before leaving for the Denver head coaching job, Vance Joseph said of Phillips: “Jordan is a player that, if you can take his explosive or flash plays, you can make a tape and it's special. But you can take his bad plays also and make a lowlight tape. So he's a young player that's inconsistent. He's obviously a big man with talent. If he's on and doing it right, he can be a special help to us... but he's got to put the bad plays to rest.”
     
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    Love Wake, but I do not like that move at all.
     
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    The trade of Jaguars TE Julius Thomas for Dolphins LT Branden Albert would likely happen if both players agreed to new deals, sources say
     
  50. Sterling A

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    I doubt julius would, in the prime of his career at 28