***Official Miami Dolphins Thread pt 2 - We losing everybody***

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  1. Sterling A

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    don't forget cam cameron
     
  2. Wu

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    Remember when we made the playoffs with tony Sparano and chad Pennington

    Good times
     
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    While rebuilding!
     
  4. CF3234

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    fail forward fast.
     
  5. LeonardWashington

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    Looking back it sucks so bad we wasted some of those Jimmy Johnson built defenses on Wannstache and Jay Fiedler. Should have gone all in and made a run.

    Really the story of all the failure over the past 15 years or so goes back to the draft imo. We rarely ever draft well...and the extremely few stars we've found over the last decade or so we don't seem to hold onto them long. Love Saban but if you go back and look at his drafts....woof...but nobody has done much better
     
  6. Sterling A

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    Saban came down to Culpepper over Drew Brees. Idk if I'll ever get over that one
     
  7. Wu

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    Ross admitting it’s much harder to win than he expected.

    A rich guy who’s successful in one industry thinking he can come in and instantly be successful in another industry is a tale as old as time.
     
  8. LeonardWashington

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    I dunno. Even if he gets Brees, he stays and the Phins win a few more games...but nothing significant imo. Wannstache had allowed that roster to become old as shit at that point, and Saban's draft picks made the problem even worse. It just was a really bad time for him, or anybody, to come to Miami.

    It'd be great to have Drew Brees though, that's for sure. But at the time he wasn't exactly a hot commodity...iirc there was little interest in him b/c of his health except for us and NOLA, who was the worst franchise in the league then. And we passed.
     
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    jamar fletcher over Reggie Wayne and Drew Brees is the one i'll never forgive. You had two guys who had hall of fame careers that played positions of need and the fins took a CB when they already had arguablly the best 2 CBs in the NFL who were both in their prime.
     
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    double post
     
  11. Jack Parkman

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    Even jimmy could draft defense but his offensive drafts....sheeesh

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    hard to blame him for yatil green. guy had 2 ACL injuries before ever seeing the field in an era where ACL injuries were still a career ender.
     
  13. Jack Parkman

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    Medical or not, still was a failure of a top 15 pick
     
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    eddie bleeping moore
     
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    Wanted him out of college
     
  16. CF3234

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    he's so slow, but he'd be better then anything we have
     
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  19. Sterling A

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    Dolphins' free agency grade reflects roster getting older

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    Frank Gore is the kind of veteran player Dolphins coach Adam Gase wants as he works to overhaul the team's culture.
    A breakdown of the initial wave of free agency for the Miami Dolphins.

    Overall grade: C-minus. It’s hard to say they kept the balance when their starting center (Mike Pouncey), a 100-catch receiver (Jarvis Landry) and a five-time Pro Bowl selection (Ndamukong Suh) have departed. Coach Adam Gase has talked about a culture change in this roster makeover. But the bottom line is they’ve made the roster slightly older, as they’ll replace some 20-somethings with players who are 30 or older.

    Most significant signing: Folks will likely look at wide receivers Albert Wilson and Danny Amendola or even running back Frank Gore because they were the players signed to fill the 112-catch gap left behind when the Dolphins traded Landry to the Browns. But the signing of guard Josh Sitton, a proven player who could help settle things down at an important position, is the answer here. Sitton has played 16 games in a season six times and started at least 12 games in each of the past nine seasons.


    Most significant loss: Landry had the biggest numbers, but a player like Suh -- an interior defensive lineman who offers the ability to defend the run and provide pass-rush skills -- is the most difficult to replace. Suh has had some knee issues, including arthroscopic surgery in January of 2017, and some wonder whether those issues will flare up again, but he has started 16 games in each of the past six seasons.

    Player they should have signed: Gore certainly gives Gase the veteran presence he wanted both in the offense and locker room. Gore continues to move up the league’s all-time rushing list, but a back such as Orleans Darkwa, who is 26, would have been an economical solution as an early-down runner. Even the 30-year-old DeMarco Murray, who visited the Dolphins before the team signed Gore, would have given them an early-down presence. The Dolphins continue to give the Georgia tandem of Sony Michel and Nick Chubb a long look in their draft preparations. Miami might like the potential of Gore and Kenyan Drake, but needs a little more physicality at the position.

    Additions: Robert Quinn, DE (trade); Wilson, WR; Sitton, G; Amendola, WR; Brock Osweiler, QB; Gore, RB.

    Subtractions: Landry, WR (trade); Suh, DT; Pouncey, C; Walt Aikens, S; Damien Williams, RB; Jermon Bushrod, G; Michael Thomas, S.

    What’s next: The Dolphins are still thin at tight end, linebacker and in the middle of the defensive line. Former Broncos/Patriots tight end A.J. Derby and MarQueis Gray are the front-line options at tight end at the moment.
     
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    damn
     
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  23. Sub-Zero

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    Can we just block anything Omar from this thread? We all know he sucks.
     
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  25. ATXCane03

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    Saban probably talks as highly of him as any player he's ever coached
     
  26. Long Ball Larry

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    As much as I’d love it to happen, i don’t think minkah falls to 11. In my opinion, him, Quenton Nelson, and Saquon Barkley are the three best players in the draft.
     
  27. Jigga

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    Wether it’s him Edmunds, Vea or the UGA LB I want defense the 1st pick
     
  28. CF3234

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    I want someone who is going to make impact plays. Don't care what side of the ball it is.
     
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  29. LeonardWashington

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    Honestly I really hope we trade back a few spots. We need to stockpile some picks with so many holes.

    I'd be really happy with any of these guys (yes, I know some won't be there when we pick): Nelson, R. Smith, Fitzpatrick, Ward, Edmunds, D. James... I would think 1-2 of those guys will still be there at 11 and maybe move back and still get them.
     
  30. CF3234

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    just one fucking time I want to be the team that moves back 15+ spots and picks up another 1st next year.

    I am pretty sure I make this post EVERY draft season.
     
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    Also if we could grab Mo Hurst in the second that would be awesome. Assuming his medicals check out...because he is a top 15 talent imo
     
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    The Dolphins know they enter this draft not absolutely needing to select a running back but preferring to add one if the right player — at the right time — is there.

    Besides their affection for three SEC running backs (LSU’s Derrius Guice and Georgia’s Sony Michel and Nick Chubb), we hear the Dolphins also like San Diego State’s Rashaad Penny and have been trying to book a visit with him at their Davie headquarters.

    Finding a date when Penny is available to come to Miami has been challenging, because he already had booked visits with multiple other teams.

    But there’s a lot to like about him. Penny led all Division 1 running backs with 2248 yards rushing last season on 7.8 per carry. He finished fifth in Heisman Trophy balloting and was a first-team All-American last season

    NFL.com’s Lance Zierlein said of Penny: “Volume-carry running back who plays with an active running style that rarely sees him slow his feet. Penny has the short-area foot quickness to create yardage for himself, but he doesn’t really have the burst or long speed to be a home run hitter. His motor gives him a chance to be a productive NFL starter, but he may lack the explosiveness to be a great back.”

    Zierlien, who projects Penny as a second-round pick, quotes an NFC scout as saying this about him: You know exactly who he is when you watch the tape. I don’t think there are going to be any surprises when you get him into our league because you know he is going to make guys miss and he’s going to run hard every snap.”

    Meanwhile, the Dolphins have taken a close look at Mark Walton (who visited last Friday) and Michel (who visited Monday).

    Besides Penn State’s Saquan Barkley — a potential top seven pick — several other backs could go in the first three rounds: Guice (the Dolphins like him and met with him privately at LSU’s pro day), USC’s Ronald Jones, Auburn’s Keryon Johnson, Michel, Penny, Chubb and perhaps NC State’s Nyheim Hines and Jaylen Samuels and Tennessee’s John Kelly Jr., plus Notre Dame’s Josh Adams. The Dolphins have evaluated all of them

    Walton could go in the fourth round range; draftnik Tony Pauline said he’s UM’s best prospect in this draft.

    Among smaller school prospects, the Dolphins met with Jacksonville State’s Roc Thomas before his pro day; the former Auburn back ran for 1065 yards last season. And they’ve shown some interest in Oregon State’s Ryan Nall and Mississippi’s Jordan Wilkins.

    There’s a decent chance that Miami’s No. 3 running back will come from the draft process. Senorise Perry and Brandon Radcliffe are the only backs under contract beyond Frank Gore and Kenyan Drake
     
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    :no:
     
  36. Yanks711

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    lol, trading up to #2 with NYG after the Browns take Darnold, book it
     
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  38. Wu

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    Lol at the contrast of those tweets
     
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  39. LeonardWashington

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    Isn't Vaccaro more of that SS, in the box type of guy? In the mold of a Jones and McDonald?

    I know he's played a little FS but seems like a redundant signing. I guess it's all about the $ figure. If he's cheap, he is talented
     
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    Would make him a top 6 paid WR in the league, same average salary as AJ Green

     
  41. Wu

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    Vacarro is physical and may be serviceable against the run but he’s a disaster in pass coverage
     
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    saints were benching vaccaro at every opportunity last year. why the fuck do the fins keep signing these old shitty players. shifting the deck chairs on the titanic man.
     
  46. LeonardWashington

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    He was hurt last year. Complete tear of a core muscle that he played with.

     
  47. Jack Parkman

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    I was upset when we didn’t draft him last year but now...

     
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    jesus...

    also that landry contract. no thanks. browns can afford that overpay, fins can't
     
  49. ATXCane03

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    LOL at anyone taking what Barry Jackson has to say seriously. Guy literally quotes PFF stats as gospel. He's a fucking joke.
     
  50. three stacks

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    you of all people have some nerve to call people a joke, especially when someone is merely relying on advanced analytics
     
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