***Official Miami Dolphins Thread pt 2 - Welcome to mediocrity***

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  1. LeonardWashington

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    That doesn’t make much sense to me. Didn’t we play McCain mostly on the boundary last year?

    And what would we do with McDonald’s contract? He's been solid, if only by PFF grading

    Why would Cleveland trade a solid young player on a rookie contract for McCain who just got paid?
     
  2. Jigga

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    NFL writers are mostly shit
     
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  3. LeonardWashington

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    I’d love to trade McCain, assuming we think neither he nor Minkah can be an outside guy, but I don’t think that one would work. We can dream tho
     
  4. Flintheart Glomgold

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    I’d be pretty bummed out if we passed on trading back with New Orleans, and took Minkah over James, to end up taking a slot corner at 13.
     
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  6. CF3234

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    I just want a playmaker. Don’t care the position. Just someone who will come in and make impact plays from day 1.
     
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    ugh. all those years we didn't trade him and now we will be lucky to get a 5th round comp pick.
     
  8. Jigga

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  10. Wu

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    Dwayne Allen

     
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  12. ATXCane03

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    Looks like Flowers is getting $18 million per in Detroit. No thanks.
     
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  15. LeonardWashington

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    $7mm for D. Allen :facepalm:
     
  16. LeonardWashington

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    We are losing James to Denver for 4 years, $52mm

    Highest paid RT in football, jeez.

    This rebuild is going to take forever. At least we get a 3rd rounder I guess.
     
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    Highest paid RT in football and he’s average at best. Let them have him
     
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  18. LeonardWashington

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    Tunsil is not much better...we gonna let him walk too? Balking at paying James, X, and Tunsil.

    I dunno we have so many holes, at some point you have to pay your own guys that actually pan out instead of just creating new holes. Everyone knew he was going to get ~$11 or so per year. Yes Denver overpaid, but honestly I don't know that I wouldn't rather overpay by $2mm a year than fuck this up by signing the scrub we will get to replace him.

    I guess that's the hard decisions you have to make, that's what good organizations like the Patriots do. They would have definitely let him walk. In the end I probably think you're right....It's just hard to trust our front office to find a competent replacement after so many shit years. Letting the guy walk is the easy call... it's the "what do we do now" part that I don't have a ton of faith in us.
     
  19. CF3234

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    Blindly paying your guys is how Andre branch has 7 million of dead cap space this season. The guy has been a below average to average at best RT his entire career. He just became the highest paid RT in the NFL despite the fact he’s never sniffed a pro bowl in a league where everyone gets an invite these days. The reality is that once he got to the last year of his contract, he was going to be overpaid. He needed to be extended last summer to have a chance at keeping him. Yea, you got to keep some of your guys, but I’m good with not giving mediocre players pro-bowl money because we drafted him. Take the third round pick and move on.
     
  20. Flintheart Glomgold

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    Tunsil is much better, and plays LT. James has been borderline average his whole time here and constantly hurt. He’d have been worth bringing back, but not at that money. No chance
     
  21. Jack Parkman

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    Dolphins need to keep their good players while at the same time not paying a fortune to keep average ones
     
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  22. ATXCane03

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    Would love Jawaan Taylor if he slipped (not likely)
     
  23. Jack Parkman

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    Was seeing Jonah Williams mocked in the bottom half of 1st now

    Trade back and take him? :idk:
     
  24. ATXCane03

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    Is he a Day 1 starter at RT?
     
  25. Flintheart Glomgold

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    I am in favor of all the trade backs
     
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    Thank God

    Need Rudock to start for the #tank4tua express

     
  27. Jigga

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    Tank for Tua
    Lose for Lawrence
    Fail for Franks
     
  28. CF3234

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    Need to make sure we got the first pick in the 7th round.
     
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    I'd roll with Tyrod this year and draft a guy like Easton Stick in the 4th round
     
  30. Jigga

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    He’ll look like a 1st rounder on 8/24
     
  31. CF3234

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    They moved the game to that day Jigga. He actually has to play football on that day.
     
  32. Wu

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    Cut Tanne and Osweiler, and just throw Fales out there
     
  33. Jigga

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    18/21 289yds 5 TDs. Book it
     
  34. CF3234

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    WORD DOC'D JIGGA!!!!!
     
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  35. Sub-Zero

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    The problem is you can't look at any players (especially OL) on their own as they all are part of a unit that may or.may not fit together. Same for hockey lines. Football relies on the guys around you so heavily that if a unit is good with him in it, then you try to keep it together. Even getting a better talent doesn't make the whole better. So if it's producing, build on it.
     
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    Agreed. But our OL hasn't been producing. It's been awful for years
     
  37. Sub-Zero

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    When healthy it looked as good this year as it has in a decade. But yea health is an issue.
     
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  39. LeonardWashington

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    If we’re drafting Tua, a lefty, RT is of extreme importance. I don’t think Tunsil is much better, perhaps marginally so at this point, but think he does have a much higher ceiling.
     
  40. LeonardWashington

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    Also, very few RTs ever make the probowl as they are always overshadowed by LT, sometimes unfairly
     
  41. Jack Parkman

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    Interesting move

     
  42. CF3234

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    the fuck?
     
  43. Jigga

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    I don't hate it. Super low risk
     
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  45. LeonardWashington

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    Bored... Just relying on PFF, I know we aren't going to spend a ton in FA this year but some mid-to-low tier guys that I would love for us to at least kick the tires on

    OT Daryl Williams (26)- graded out about the same as J. James, plug an play starter in his prime. Coming off an injury though, but if he checks out, could be a huge bargain.


    OG John Miller (25)- graded out as #25 OG in the league, his grade has been consistent each year. In his prime, solid but unspectacular starter. Shit at this point, I'd take #25 OG in the league all day.

    OG Quentin Spain probably the same as Miller, but he has had big years in the past but under-performed recently. He'd probably be more expensive than Miller on reputation but maybe not as good of a player.

    DT Henry Anderson (27) from the Jets has been in a reserve role but played very well in it for 3 seasons. Would be a good DT depth at minimum if not a starter at the right price.

    OT Mike Remmers- Armando listed him as a possibility yesterday out of nowhere really, so that is telling. He was moved to OG last year and didn't grade out nearly as well as he did as an OT. I believe as an OT he was about the same as James, perhaps a tad under James' rating. Might not be a bad idea to sign him and put him back at his natural position, but he turns 30 next month so probably a stop-gap. Maybe that's what we're going for this year?

    nm Hicks just got signed. 4 years 36 mil, I think that's a good deal...wish we would have gotten involved at that price considering what we are paying Kiko for a far superior player.
     
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  46. LeonardWashington

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    Parker, I just hate as a player because he's a huge pussy. But from a purely financial standpoint, he was due 9.4 for his fifth year option and he took a pretty big haircut to get that additional year....so not a bad deal from a financial standpoint and not a ton of risk. Well... unless you take into account that the risk is that we actually spend ANY money on Parker.
     
  47. Wu

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    He was hilariously bad here but maybe got the Phins infection out of him
     
  48. Jack Parkman

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    Just getting back from vacation and catching up on free agency

    Looks like Grier wasn’t bullshitting when he said he’d rather have 3 good players instead of spending a ton for 1 great one

    Giving flowers a megacontract never really made sense considering where this franchise is and how bad we are going to suck for the forseeable future
     
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