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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by Sterling A, Apr 8, 2015.
Sounds like we need a....herro
I was so excited about #HerroBall
Got a feeling you're still going to get it. Trust in Pat + Elisburg.
This is for all of you, but especially for CF3234
I'm a total UF homer but if there were any way we could pull Beal for the same thing it would cost us to get Russ, I'd rather add him to Butler.
Weird that you wouldn't want the one who is 6 years older and makes 40 million dollars annually
The contract/age goes without saying. I mean in terms of game.
And this isn't me saying Russ isn't a top-15 player in the league or that I wouldn't take him...I just think it's pretty obvious that Beal's game would compliment Butler more.
I'm a FSU fan and I'm with you on that. But there's no way that would happen. Incentive/willingness for Okc to move Westbrook is much stronger rn than with the Wiz and Beal. Only way to make Beal work without giving up absolutely everything is if we agreed to take Wall's contract too. Front office is never going to do that when Russ is right there. Great consolation prize, imo.
Adding Wall to the Beal contract is more of a poison pill than Russ' contract
That Wall contract...
I got emotional because of TS, but also it's a good meme
this is some excellent meme creation.
Let’s not pretend it’s just Beal here, you’d get Beal and that albatross of a contract wall has
Herro officially signed. Means he won't be included in any potential Westbrook trade. Also, this happened today:
Hoping OKC does him a serious solid and takes back the trash we have to offer for him
Nunn kid is pretty damn good
That left hand almost came off the rim and that would have been really bad.
Nunn could be decent to add 5-8 minutes a game. But I can’t really trust summer league...
Nunn and Herro are the next Curry and Klay
Can Russ just get traded already
I think the hold up is finding the 3rd team
Me all week
Cliffs: OKC is asking for "multiple young assets." Heat don't want to give up any, although they may be willing to part with Justice. Heat think they're the only serious suitors and are willing to wait them out. Also still looking for a potential 3rd team to make things work but don't have one yet.
Oklahoma City has asked the Heat for multiple young, valuable assets in trade conversations involving guard Russell Westbrook, and Miami - at least to this point - has refused, according to a league source briefed on the discussions by one of the teams.
OKC has asked the Heat to include impressive rookie guard Tyler Herro in the proposed trade, but the Heat has been very reluctant to do that. Because Herro signed with the Heat on Wednesday, he cannot be included in any trade for 30 days, but that isn’t viewed as an obstacle.
At another point in the discussions this week, the Thunder asked the Heat to include two among Herro, Bam Adebayo and Justise Winslow, according to a source in touch with one of the two teams. The Heat also is opposed to including Adebayo, whom Erik Spoelstra ranked among the best centers in the league in the final months of last season.
Though the Heat very much would like to add Westbrook, those OKC demands had resulted in a stalement in conversations as of Wednesday evening.
My sense is, unless Detroit (or some other unforseen team) makes a serious offer, Presti will know he's stuck here and accept Justice + some contract swapping to get the deal done. The pressure is on them right now far more than it is on Riley.
Come again? So he is up there with Jokic, AD, Embiid, Gobert?
He’s better than all
In that case
Bam isn’t going anywhere
fine with it. if they can find someone else to willingly take on a guy who will make 44 million at 34 and give up young assets, let them.
I don’t know if I even want that contract.
yea, it's nowhere near the slam dunk it seems to be on the surface. Got a guy whose entire game is predicated on athleticism on the wrong side of 30. These super max contracts are going to be pretty much universally awful.
this may seem too progressive idk, but I don't really care about the money. We've been capped out the last 4 years and nothing to show for it and basically an average team to below average at certain points. So what difference does it make if the next 3 years are the same, but with butler and westbrook? At least if we ship off winslow and parts and take on this ginormous contract we have a chance at the 2nd round, who knows maybe more. At least be entertaining and fun as hell
Get it done Riles
I'm ok taking Westbrook's contract, especially if we can pull getting Love or something. And actually contend instead of just having two fun guys to watch.
I was nervous about getting rid of the youngsters, but now I just care about keeping Bam.
Did the whole cap thing, landed a bunch of shitty contracts we now are hoping to unload
On the one hand, the contract is really bad. On the other, Elisburg is incredible with this type of shit and I'm confident he can sort all that shit out down the road. I mean they went into this off-season with no cap space and very limited assets and they may walk out of it with Jimmy Butler and Russell Westbrook. Wouldn't be shocked if we went into 2021 with the flexibility to land another big FA. Rule of thumb for the organization has always been land the star and figure out the rest later. After the last 5 years of mediocrity, I don't think now is the time to venture from that.
But, as has been stated, unless another suitor for Russ emerges, the Heat hold all the leverage here. Absolutely zero reason to move Bam or Herro right now. Justice is a little more expendable because his skillset doesn't vary too much from Russ and Jimmy anyways. If I were Riley, I wouldn't let Winslow hold up the deal. But if OKC hellbent on taking multiple assets, they can get bent. They'll cave sooner or later.
I think you play hardball on Winslow to use him in another deal for a 3rd piece. Let OKC take a combo of Waiters, Leonard, Johnson, and/or Dragic and use the leftovers plus Winslow to find a shooter.
I used to love this song so much when I was a kid. Still do.
I still think this deal gets done in some way, shape or form. For OKC, they risk going into the season with a disgruntled star in what will likely be their worst performing year since they moved from Seattle. Sure they could hold off until December 15th or the Trade Deadline to broaden the market for him, but I can't his stock rising given the position they are in.
Not doubting that Jackson has sources, but there is no way in the world (aside from perhaps his initial requests) that Presti expects a haul like that given RW's contract and the lack of leverage he has. I continue to believe that Justise will probably be the compromise that triggers to deal to happen.
Remove lottery protection on 2023 1st
Welp. So much for that.