Official Middle East/ISIS thread: Tehran up another part of the Middle East

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  1. Tobias

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    i am calling on israel to bomb my place of employment in order to eradicate any hamas there and also get me out of work for a few weeks
     
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  2. Open Carry

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    I’ve heard hamas has taken up residence in the kremlin. Maybe a missile strike there would finish them once and for all?
     
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  3. RavenNole

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    Is it also a large escalation to kill hundreds of Civilians and displace tens of thousands of families in response to that rocket fire that did more damage to Gaza than Israel or no?
     
  4. Illinihockey

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    I’m not sure firing back in a military conflict is escalating things. Hamas are still firing rockets.
     
  5. BWC

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    So maybe don't be such a miserable war hawk?
     
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  6. RavenNole

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    Firing back? At who? The women and children who’s only crime is being in a place where a fighter was at a point in the past? For someone who spends so much time looking into this you have absolutely no idea about this conflict at all.

    imagine if someone broke into your house and did something bad so the police blew up your house just in case the criminal was still in your house. That’s something you’re comfortable with. You might still be in the house. That’s of no consequence to the cops. The criminal likely isn’t. They’ll blow it up anyway.
     
  7. Illinihockey

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    you think the only rocket strikes are on abandoned buildings? You know a lot of Hamas fighters are built into that number of dead right? It’s presented as 197 Palestinians dead but a lot of that is Hamas members, Hamas admits as much.
     
  8. popnfresh

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    And this is acceptable to you?
     
  9. Illinihockey

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    that Israel kills members of Hamas?
     
  10. popnfresh

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    That an unknown number of civilians is dead from a total that is at least 197?
     
  11. Illinihockey

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    israel is claiming 130 dead militants but since Hamas is the only entity recording the casualties, we won’t get an exact number
     
  12. Beeds07

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    See I heard Hamas had an office at Mar a Lago and in the Fox News building :shrug:
     
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  13. Beeds07

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    You’re really determined to die on the hill of taking the word of people committing genocide as truth, and it’s pathetic to watch you either not get it, which is whatever, or pretend to not get it which is far more pathetic.
     
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  15. Can I Spliff it

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    Yeesh Israel's losing a lot of support among regular people this time
     
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    I Wish Israel would condemn Trump to see what the right would do

    would be putting their brain in a pretzel to figure out who to stand for
     
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  17. Illinihockey

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    and you’ll believe literally anything Hamas puts out despite them being caught lying a ton of times over the 15 years some of which I’ve posted in here
     
  18. mc415

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    Such a fucking weird take to side with Israel so hard when they treat Palestinians like pieces of subhuman dog shit, how u can suck on that Israeli dick so hard is fucking psychotic!
     
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  19. Lyrtch

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    because palestinians deserve it
     
  20. fuxstockings

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    IDF have a statement yet on how many of the dozens of children killed so far are Hamas or Hamas adjacent?
     
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  21. WhiskeyDelta

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    You don’t get to be the good guy if you kill innocents, especially children, to take out a bad guy. You don’t get to be the good guy if you destroy an innocents home because a bad guy might have an office there. You don’t get to be a good guy if you destroy access to a hospital because a bad guy might end up there.

    I say this as someone who’s seen about 180 people killed on drone missions I worked.
     
  22. Cornfed Buffalo

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  23. Killy Me Please

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    You know why I don't have a grudge against Palestine. They don't undermine US security by selling our secrets to China.
     
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  24. steamengine

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    I can’t even imagine how down a hole you’d have to be to repost IDF tweets to try and make your point
     
  25. TC

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    Israel does that?
     
  26. Tobias

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    lol just heard mitch on the radio say how biden needs to stand strong against growing opposition voices in his party and continue to support israel

    a real solid ally for israelihockey
     
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  27. WhiskeyDelta

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    Friend of mines social media has become nigh unreadable for a country she’s been to twice.
     
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  28. Beeds07

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    His arguments track with Mitch, MTG and almost every Republican. That should tell you something.
     
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  29. Open Carry

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    Hockey guy can’t accept this because then he has to accept that we were the baddies when it comes to Iraq and Afghanistan, and god forbid the us government ever be in the wrong when it comes to foreign policy. America greatest country on earth and all that bullshit.
     
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  30. Where Eagles Dare

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    Yet we have independent sources saying out of the 197 dead, 58 were children and 40 or so were women.

    I'm sure they were Hamas. We've seen the IDF lie in plain sight in recent days, but lets continue to take their word for it
     
  31. Where Eagles Dare

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    They'd eventually be Hama, probably, so it's OK they were killed.
     
  32. Beeds07

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    When you realize US foreign policy is no different that US domestic policy it becomes easier to take and understand how much we suck.
     
  33. AptosDuck

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    Israel sold military spare parts to Iran in 1980 solely to undercut Carter's leverage in trying to free the embassy hostages
     
  34. Hoss Bonaventure

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    The settlers treat everyone like shit. Palestinians more than anyone, but they don’t just reserve it for them exclusively. By damn though Christians have to stand with Israel because the herp derp end times.
     
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  35. Tobias

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  36. BudKilmer

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  37. DriveByBBQ

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    My first thought after learning Biden won the election was 'I bet shit heats back up in the middle east' and I don't think the timing of his administration assuming office and this shit flaring up is coincidence, career hawk 100%. I hope we're not stepping into two terms of middle east conflict and interventionist foreign policy or worse, entering into some sort of proxy/actual war with Iran. Prayers for compassion, love, and empathy for all those affected. It's all just incredibly sad and disappointing.
     
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  38. BellottiBold

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    Eh Trump/GOP wouldn't have done shit either. Israel's had our FP by the balls bipartisanly for decades, aside from that mild Obama blip.
     
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  39. BWC

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    Trump literally tried to start an actual war with Iran. Our weapons have killed thousands in Yemen (Biden froze arms sales at the end of his first week in office). They all suck when it comes to foreign policy. Had about enough of this Donald the Dove bullshit.
     
  40. DriveByBBQ

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    Didn't vote for Trump or Biden, and purposefully made no commentary wrt our previous president. You inferred a preference for Trump from my post that isn't there. Also your response is "whataboutism". I didn't say shit about Trump and don't care for him or any politician for that matter. If I gave any indication of advocacy for Trump, I apologize. I was just attempting to communicate that from my perspective (which admittedly is based on a passive observance and generally uninformed knowledge of the geopolitics and the region) it seems to me that the middle east has been relatively quiet in very recent history and all of the sudden it's back at the forefront of the news cycle where it's perpetually resided for the majority of my adult life. Not trying to be combative and I appreciate your opinion. The entire situation is a tragedy and I hope it's resolved as peacefully and quickly as possible.
     
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  41. BellottiBold

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    To be clear I did not read "preference for Trump" in your post.
     
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  42. BWC

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    I wasn't suggesting a preference of any sort, as noted by "They all suck when it comes to foreign policy." Apologies if my post came across as suggesting that about you. You referenced the election, which involved Trump and Biden. You may not have voted for either (which is another discussion), but if you invoke the election and winner of said election, you invoke both players imo, which prompted my response.

    My reply was meant more as a general comment on the Donald the Dove nonsense, not specific to you.
     
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  43. Can I Spliff it

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  44. IV

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    Sad to see we have a #Alabama Crimson Tide fascist
     
  45. HuskerInMiami

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    This is something that is really common in the right wing (I used to be one:facepalm:). Accountability is an important factor until you have to be held accountable.
     
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  46. HuskerInMiami

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    That video is 5 years old.
     
  47. IV

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    Do we have any posters here raised in Japan, China, South Korea? I bet the rest of the worlds obsession with religions of the Old Testament is terrifying to someone who doesn’t grow up in that tradition
     
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  48. Open Carry

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  49. mc415

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  50. steamengine

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    Yes, everyone knew we were on a path to an elevated situation after the moving of the embassy, golan heights and everything the trump admin did to side with Israel so unilaterally. Not that complicated, really.
     
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