*** Official MMA Thread II ***

Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by Krieger, Apr 24, 2016.

  1. southlick

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    Goddamnit Walt
     
  2. Corch

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  3. Gunners

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    Great sportsmanship
     
  4. dblplay1212

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    They called it for that after not calling it in the 1st?
     
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  5. Joe_Pesci

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    Um the ref let Overeem punch Harris in the side of the head 20 times before it was called?
     
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  6. spagett

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    Poor Harris probably thought he had it
     
  7. dblplay1212

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    He let Overeem take 20 bombs in the 1st.
     
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  8. Gallant Knight

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    Harris had no way to get up. If he didn’t call it he is wearing 100 punches to the dome
     
  9. dblplay1212

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    Maybe. Harris should have tried to roll or something, he was just gassed. But Overeem took way more damage in the 1st than Harris did in the 2nd.
     
  10. Corch

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    Harris couldn't defend himself and Overeem did. Pretty simple.
     
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  11. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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  12. dblplay1212

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    He had a hand up defending himself. Overeem took way more damage in the 1st. He was eating bombs. Ref just let it go long enough that Overeem was able to get up.
     
  13. Gallant Knight

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    He warned Harris a few times before stopping it

    Not sure what you want him to do
     
  14. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    How does the round betting work? I had over 1 1/2 and it graded it as a loss.
     
  15. Corch

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    He clearly told him to protect the ear and that lasted for about .3 seconds. If they kept that going, Harris was going to lay there until he was out cold.
     
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  16. ugafish

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    yea, there is no good argument otherwise
     
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  17. dblplay1212

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    Stop it in the 1st when Overeem ate 8 straight bombs.
     
  18. Gallant Knight

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    You needed it to get to the third round
     
  19. dblplay1212

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    Over 1.5 means it has to go 2 rounds. They do .5 so it's under if it ends in 1 or over if it ends in 2.
     
  20. HuskerGuy99

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    That was actually a good-ass fight card (didn't watch the women fight). Surprised Overeem didn't wilt after getting dropped in the first round. Harris had no gas left in the tank so good stoppage.
     
  21. dblplay1212

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    I don't think it was a bad stoppage. Harris was gassed. Just feels wrong to stop it for g&p in the 2nd when the g&p in the 1st inflicted was more damage but was allowed to continue.
     
  22. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    Would have been a profitable night without the Barbosa fuckery. Oh well. Hopes Korean baseball treats me better.
     
  23. Craig Pettis

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    Yea, Overeem took more damage in the 1st but at all times he was defending himself. Have I seen it stopped for less? Absolutely. Would anyone have questioned a stoppage? Probably not

    BUT! Overeem had Harris’ back, hooks in, and had him flattened out against the cage, with only one hand to use that wasn’t effectively blocking. The ref told him to do something for like 20 seconds before calling it. Open and shut case Johnson
     
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  24. NP13

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    these last 3 cards have been pretty damn good.
     
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  25. theriner69er

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    You can usually tell if it's a good stoppage or not based on how the fighter reacts. Harris didn't say shit.

    Overeem ate a few shots in the period of a few seconds. Harris took unanswered, basically undefended shots for what seemed like a full minute. He made no effort to improve his position or fight back. laying there covering part of your head for that long is always going to get the fight stopped. That's not very comparable to what Overeem did when Harris was landing on him.
     
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  26. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    My over 1.5 rounds was changed to a win. Weird. Will probably get reversed again.
     
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  27. Joe_Pesci

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    If anything I thought it should have been stopped sooner. These guys will eat knuckle sandwiches until they're out cold. The last 10 or so shots to the side/back of Harris's head were unnecessary
     
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  28. Gallant Knight

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    Lol how
     
  29. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    So just read that mma over/under are based on actual time. Over 1.5 means literally halfway through second round.
     
  30. Gallant Knight

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    Oh that’s wild
     
  31. Joe_Pesci

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    I discovered this last week, unfortunately
     
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  32. Joe_Pesci

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    So Overeem is doing something other than taking his vitamins and saying his prayers, right? 40 year olds don't typically look like that
     
  33. dblplay1212

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    He used to look like this.

     
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  34. Joe_Pesci

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    I saw that but he still looks suspect for someone who is 40
     
  35. Gallant Knight

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    He works out for a living
     
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  36. Joe_Pesci

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    This was only the second worst mistake of dumb betting by me in recent memory

    I thought soccer moneylines applied to the total outcome of the match, like every other sport. nope, just regulation.
     
  37. Joe_Pesci

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    And The Rock just works out all the time and eats clean
     
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  38. theriner69er

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    horse meat
     
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  39. burnttatertot

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    Definitely a roider. Take it from an ex-roider.
     
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  40. southlick

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  41. One Man Wolfpack

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    Overeem got dropped around 3:55 in the 1st. He attempted to get up, went feet on hips, ankle lock submission attempt, escaped bottom position and got into clinch in a matter of 35 seconds. Not even 20 seconds later, he put Harris on the ground and kept him down the rest of the round.

    In the 2nd round, Overeem dropped Harris at about 3:30 in the round. He then got back mount and kept position for the next 90 seconds with unanswered shots and no attempt to move by Harris. Ref warned him 4-5 times to move or do something, and Harris never answered.

    Whether the shots are more powerful or damaging doesn't really matter. If the fighter is doing something, anything to show he's still in the fight and intelligently defending himself the ref will give them opportunities more times than not.

    Miragliotta did a great job handling that fight.
     
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  42. Jake Scott

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    Long time steroid user...

    Overeem and Vitor Belfort back in the day were sooooo jacked. Then when USADA started testing both looked a lot different
     
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  43. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    Also... No one gave a fuck what they were taking in Japan.
     
  44. Lando Donovan

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    Win or lose, I’ll still come back and dissect what went right/what went wrong (it’s bolded in the quoted post below). Those of you who haven’t really bet UFC before got a dose of the biggest problem in MMA, inconsistent and sometimes just baffling scoring by the judges. I do think it’s a problem that will eventually be fixed (perhaps a panel of 9 former refs/fighters replacing these uneducated judges). There’s certain places that are really bad, and when you have an American fighting say a Russian, in Russia, well he better knock that mother fucker out. You usually don’t win those decisions.
     
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  45. COVIDiskilingme79

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    You just can't knee to the head of a grounded opponent. You can knee the body, legs, etc all you want

    It was a good stoppage from Dan imo. Walt wanted out but you can't really tap. No need for him to take 30 more headshots for no reason. He just had nothing to give and accepted he was done by laying in that position.
     
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  46. dblplay1212

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    My bad, knew they changed the rules when grounded but I guess I fucked it up. Thanks for the correction.
     
  47. Jake Scott

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    Love this matchup

     
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  48. DeToxRox

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    A real shame that this happened to Khabib’s best friend

     
  49. NP13

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    so they've added a May 30 card
     
  50. Lando Donovan

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    Was just looking at the updated lineup, it’s terrible.
     
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