*** Official MMA Thread II ***

Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by Krieger, Apr 24, 2016.

  1. Jake Scott

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    I did this exact same thing.
     
  2. Butthead

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    Tony Ferguson seems like he gets hit in the head a lot
     
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  3. Wee Bey

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    I think Rose was more so confused at the decision than anything else. I'd bet Rose went out and nearly flawlessly executed the game plan Barry and Wittman put together. It was just a very bad game plan based on an assumption that didn't come to fruition - Esparza would engage more. Esparaza never grew impatient and was fine taking shots here and there.

    Despite being the better fighter, Rose not only used a game plan that would results in the judges' decision, but executed in such a way there was so little action it essentially rendered the fight outcome 50/50. That's silly. What's even worse was Barry not being able to recognize how the fight was going in real time and continue to pump Rose full of bad information (stay the course, boos are proof you're executing). Wittman at least hinted at being more active, but having competing voices in the 1 minute between rounds rest is not an option.

    This has to result in Barry getting fired as a strategic coach - especially in corner
    Does he get fired as boyfriend and emotional support person?

    Someone above mentioned how Rose's mentality is all over the place. She seemed more confident than usual going into and during this fight. Glad she lost after that performance. She needs to make changes.
     
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  4. Eric The Viking

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    I’m happy with the outcome (even as a Rose fan), b/c it sets the precedent that you can’t just be inactive, and expect to retain your belt. Every title fight from this point forward, is now incentivized to have more action.
     
  5. Eric The Viking

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    It hurt seeing Ferguson getting dropped so hard. That was one of the most brutal KOs the sport has ever seen, and I hate that it had to happen to one of my favorite fighters.
     
  6. Illinihockey

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    because people want money not to be wrestle fucked for 20 minutes
     
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  7. Gaknight

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    easy $$$ fight or get the business from Islam, Khamzat, etc?
     
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    if everyone could stop quoting my very drunk post I would appreciate it.
     
  9. Gaknight

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    Starting to think Kamaru wants none of Leon and is ducking that fight. Make the damn fight already
     
  10. SuperCam

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    No chance Pat and Trevor were on the same page. Pat seems to be the problem to me. It reminds me of watching AJ McKees dad tell him he's up 4-0 right before he loses a decision. These corners arent telling their fighters what they need to hear.

    The wild thing was watching Roses takedown defense hold up, and she didn't gain anymore confidence to engage more.
     
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  12. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    So is Olivera going to have weight issues going forward?
     
  13. zachary

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    i don’t see why he would. this is the first issue at 55
     
  14. —

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    All I know is everyone wants to fight everyone but really no one wants to fight chuck but everyone does want to fight Connor for the money and legacy
     
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  15. BudKilmer

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    Chuck can eat your best shots now and then make you tap. He’s at a level I didn’t think he’d ever get to. It’s remarkable tbh
     
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    I love that a lot of prognosticators tried to question his “heart” before his last several fights. At this point his heart is somehow capable of keeping him conscious while eating strikes from the best in the division.

    Also side story. I bet on Ferguson +300. Was talking to a coworker who was like. No way! Chandler Will win! And I was like yeah… most likely. That doesn’t make this a bad bet… of course he texted me the second Tony went down.

    this same coworker was confident Gaethje would beat chuck and I told him I didn’t see it. Of course I texted him after that fight and he took about an hour to respond. Some people man.
     
  17. BudKilmer

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    I knew Chandler would dominate Tony. He hasn’t been the same since Gathje turned his leg into warm pudding.

    Do Bronx lost to Holloway and got choked out by Pettis and looked gassed in the later rounds.

    questioning the heart of mma fighters is lunacy. To get where there guys get requires more heart than any of us have. It’s a trope I hate in sports tbh.
     
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  20. Jake Scott

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  21. zachary

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    would happily bet money on charles as a dog
     
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  22. spagett

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    I love it for other sports though

    "Hell, I could've made that shot/kick/catch/throw" or the even ballsier "I coulda hit that pitch"

    Feels good
     
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  23. SuperCam

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  24. Gaknight

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    Charles running scared
     
  25. Butthead

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    I think I heard on the radio that Makhachev opened -410 for a potential fight with Oliveira
     
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  26. zachary

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    yes back in february. i believe islam is now like a -225 favorite
     
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  27. SuperCam

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    I want Charles to beat Islam so bad. Khabib has to be so mad at Oliveras success right after his retirement
     
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  28. COVIDiskilingme79

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    Imo, Khabib is happy to go out on top. He quit when he did for a reason and doesn't seem to have any temptation to come back.
     
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  29. Gaknight

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    Khabib retired as the undefeated GOAT. He also wasn't getting damage from the guys Oliviera is getting dropped by then beating. Moral of the story is I think Khabib is fine and he doesn't strike me as a jealous/bitter person anyway.
     
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  30. Cornfed Buffalo

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  31. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    So much for never fighting him for money
     
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  32. SuperCam

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    Anyone picking Jan to bounce back tonight? He gave up so easily against Glover, I don't know what to think about him.
     
  33. zachary

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    No way. I liked Rakic in that matchup even before the loss
     
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  34. Gaknight

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    Rakic is nice
     
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  35. BudKilmer

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    205 is such a weird weight class now

    wish Reyes had gotten the belt.

    feels like Jiris time is coming
     
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  36. southlick

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  37. zachary

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    parlay over after first fight lol fk
     
  38. SuperCam

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    Ouch looks like Rakic blew his knee
     
  39. southlick

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    That was tough to watch
     
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  40. snowfx2

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    Jiri is inevitable
     
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  41. BudKilmer

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    Jiri, Islam and Khmazat all terrify me on an existential level
     
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  42. SuperCam

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  43. zachary

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    I hope PFL and Bellator can push UFC to become better
     
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  44. SuperCam

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    I just dont see how PFL and Bellator can both be successful, seems like one would have to eventually eat the other. If you combined both, you can probably make some interesting fights with a bigger budget.
     
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  45. COVIDiskilingme79

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    The UFC would probably gobble up anything that is a true competitor and then kill it. WEC, Strikeforce, etc.
     
  46. zachary

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    What might help Bellator is cross promotion fights which sounds like Coker is willing to do
     
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  47. Roy

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    Their presence can still make UFC improve itself
     
  48. SuperCam

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    I think ESPN/PFL should just do a better spin off of TUF. They need a way to build characters, and getting people invested in their fighters besides just overpaying for big names like Diaz or whoever past their prime.
     
  49. COVIDiskilingme79

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    I'm speechless

    Chandler is a grade A company man
     
  50. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    Heard a clip from him last week. Basically says what the ufc pays him is irrelevant. No one knew who grew was before and now he has a huge platform and is making tons of money with endorsements and appearances.