*** Official MMA Thread II ***

Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by Krieger, Apr 24, 2016.

  1. dblplay1212

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    I wouldn't screw an event bc of a missed weight. If they are within reason, like a pound or two off, let them fight in the event but dock them 50% of their pay and then suspend them for a year. On 2nd offense, let them fight but they lose 75% of pay and suspended for 2 years. If they miss by 5+ lbs then pull them bc the other fighter is at a big disadvantage but other than that the penalty should screw the fighter, not the fans.

    And if we're doing 2-3 weigh ins over a few days, allow for some weight cut. If they are fighting at 185, weigh in 1 would be 7 days early and they have to make 192. At 3 days they have to make 188. Day of fight they have to be at 185. That gives them a gradual cut and they don't have time to balloon back up to 200 by fight time.
     
  2. theriner69er

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    oh, well that's different. I thought you were saying the only time you weigh in is 5 min before the fight.

    The penalty can be severe, just not severe penalty + weigh in 5 min before the fight, or with similar weigh-in regulations as exist now.

    If you weigh in 4 times the week of the fight, are you averaging those weights? Taking the highest weight? The lowest?
     
  3. theriner69er

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    why do you want fighters to cut weight, at all?
     
  4. dblplay1212

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    There's some natural weight loss from a hard camp. Some of these guys are workout warriors year round but some aren't. A guy like Diaz is going to lose some weight when he stops drinking a case of beer a day and gets into camp. These guys aren't in camp 12 months a year. When out of camp, it's natural for them to put on some weight. I'm ok with taking that into account and allowing them to be over fight weight a week before the fight. Give them a pound a day and as long as they are at fight weight by fight time then they are good.
     
  5. theriner69er

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    I say eliminate weight classes all together, go back to the original UFC, no classes, no divisions, just get in there and fight. One belt, one champion. Problem solved.
     
  6. Jake Scott

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    Michael McDonald is headed to Bellator.
     
  7. Killy Me Please

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    We also need more goddamn divisions. They need to add a 180 class and ld move 185 to 95.

    I have no idea how wme will keep the UFC together after Dana leaves. They really seem lost.
     
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  8. oprostaj

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    Im afraid adding more divisions will just allow fighters to move around more, holding up title challenges and complicating things even more.
     
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  9. cal

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    rampage has some big ass tittays
     
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  11. spagett

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    Love how awful Bellator is.
     
  12. NP13

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    Didn't watch, what happened?
     
  13. GrizzliesDrew

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    King Mo won with the least impressive decision ever over a very out of shape Rampage. It was a horrible fight
     
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    Sounds about right.
     
  15. Killy Me Please

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    who gives a fuck. More divisions = more champs = Get the best cards possible.
     
  16. oprostaj

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    Not sure I follow that logic. Frankly a champ is someone that defends his belt against the top challengers in his weight class. If people are jumping around trying to become multiple division champions it would create a mess. Even right now it's a crapshoot of "money fights". I'm all for best fight possible.
     
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  17. Killy Me Please

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    There will be plenty of title defenses. The sport needs big cards. When 2 fighters put their belts on the line the outside world notices more.

    But let's say we live in a perfect world and the sport doesn't need a ratings bump. We fucking need more fucking weight classes. There's no reason you have 125-155 then 170 then 185 then 205 then lol 265 max. It's silly af. We need at least 2-3 more. There's no reason to not have a 190 and 220? class. Id even welcome a freak show class above 265. There's a fuck ton of talent.
     
  18. One Man Wolfpack

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    I imagine that Darrill Schoonover was somewhere yelling at his TV screen saying, "TITTIES!"
     
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  19. Jake Scott

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    Rampage hasn't seen a gym in a coons age.
     
  20. oprostaj

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    There's a huge talent (availability) drop off the higher in weight class you go. Turns out big athletic guys can make more money doing literally anything else. Also it's not for everyone to get repeatedly punched in the face for a living.

    Hell the heavyweights are all 30+ and have a ton of mileage on them! 205 isn't much better in terms of upcoming talent either. If Jones was still around the division wouldn't even be competitive. Currently the best guy is an old as fuck Cormier with shot knees who is more than likely closer to retirement than a prolonged title defense.

    The UFC is going the WWE way with belts that don't mean shit. They nickle and dimed the fighters, let still usable talent go to other promotions and are allowing big money fights dictate the future. It sells PPVs now, but this is not how you build a solid foundation for the future.
     
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  21. Illinihockey

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    This UFC card feels like its one fight away from being really good
     
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  22. Jake Scott

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    Gastulum flagged by USADA and pulled from UFC212
     
  23. snowfx2

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    for weed
     
  24. Jake Scott

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    Yea I see that now.
     
  25. Jake Scott

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    Was looking forward to that fight. He's a freak.
     
  26. snowfx2

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    Agree, it's a solid one but needed at least another Weidman/Mousasi level fight to be a damn good card.

    211 is stacked. And next week's Fox card is pretty solid for Fox.
     
  27. Homo Erectus

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    Bought tix to fox show and looks good on paper.
    Praying nobody important scratches.
     
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  28. Dick Trickle

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    Honestly I wanted to see him fight one of the top 5 guys. He looks like a freak at 185 and would have torched a washed up Silva. I would love to see him get the winner of Weidman/Moussasi fight or Rockhold
     
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  29. One Man Wolfpack

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    Man, Cormier looked like death. He was stumbling to the scale when he weighed in at 206. He had to come back in less than 5 minutes to lose the extra pound to make the fight a title fight, and he made the weight. So thankfully the title fight is still on.

    But I do want someone to explain to me how DC lost 1lbs of weight in about 3 minutes ..
     
  30. Jake Scott

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    He always grows that beard to make his face look less like skeletor
     
  31. ned's head

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    Lol wut. Why schedule this if that's a rule?

     
  32. Illinihockey

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    I take it Misha never fought in New York
     
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  33. snowfx2

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  36. GGCD

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    He really did look like death. He didn't even have enough energy to give a fuck about the towel after weighing in. He just walked away with his dick out.
     
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  37. snowfx2

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    She'll now forever be known as that UFC fighter with the implants
     
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  38. Killy Me Please

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    took a shit/pushed down on the towel. whateves. just fight.
     
  39. Killy Me Please

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    that was meishas fame
     
  40. chase538

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    Does anyone here compete? MMA or jiu jitsu? I do in jiu jitsu, would in MMA but got into a little too late in life. My old ass would get worked now.

    As far as tomorrow's card, I really wanna see Rumble knock out DC, and for Weidman to get the win. Brooks and Oliveria should be fun too.
     
  41. Jake Scott

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    Anyone buying the fights tonight?
     
  42. snowfx2

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    Straight up put his hands on his knees he was so tired.
     
  43. snowfx2

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    Damn, Rosa took some huge shots there and still didn't go out completely.
     
  44. Jake Scott

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    Rose vs Waterson should be interesting.

    I'm still debating whether or not to buy tonight's card. Someone convince me one way or the other?
     
  45. Mitch Cumstein

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    LINKS MOTHERFUCKERS
     
  46. Mitch Cumstein

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    acestream://02d5ea172dcf1ff4c760ada7f3d67f942cb29905
     
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  47. Mitch Cumstein

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    UFC also needs to get rid of that old ass theme intro music :blech:
     
  48. Jake Scott

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    Oliveira comes out wearing fucking glasses?