Official Ukraine Thread: Putin On The Fritz

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  1. joe-

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    good tweet
    bad (or sick!) tweet
     
  2. EagleDuck

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    Ah. Makes more sense. I see it is corrected now.
     
  3. Prospector

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    Who’s running out of cash? Russian banks. Long ATM lines in Russia as citizens withdraw funds — risking a bank run that could send the Russian economy into further chaos.

    What’s “uninvestable”? Russian assets. Market index provider, MSCI, is considering removing Russian stocks and bonds from their indexes — which funnel billions into the Russian economy.

    • "It is obvious to all of us that the market is very difficult to trade and, in fact, it is uninvestable today.” – per Dimitris Melas, head of research at MSCI.
    • The Russian ETF, VanEck Russia ETF (BATS:RSX), fell another 18% yesterday and is now down 67% in 2022.
    Who’s joining the fight against Russia? (Almost) the entire world.

    • Anonymous – the infamous hacking group – is raging cyber warfare against Russia — calling hackers worldwide to target government websites.
    • Mastercard and Visa blocked Russian financial institutions from using their services amid sanctions.
    • Warner Bros and Sony halted all theatrical releases in Russia until further notice.
    • Retail stores discontinued sales of Russian vodka in certain US states.
    • FIFA and UEFA banned Russian football teams from playing in games.
     
  4. Thoros of Beer

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    It's audacious, I'll admit
     
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  5. ground mullet

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    indubitably
     
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  6. racer

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    Corpuscular indeed!
     
  7. BP

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    They did this to Japan airspace too


     
  8. Thoros of Beer

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    My wife only allows me to have the family thesaurus on weekdays when she's at work
     
  9. fsugrad99

    fsugrad99 I'm the victim here
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    Highly cromulent
     
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  10. Josey Wales

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    Russia never looked this incompetent when president T was in charge. I’d argue america was one of the biggest dunces the last 4 years.
     
  11. IV

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    Imagine if the media framed shit like this
     
  12. Cornfed Buffalo

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    Nothing confirmed

     
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  13. Mr. Bean

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    Yeah I’m 80% inclined to believe the CCP is now laundering that position via the NYT. Not buying that a “no limits” partnership backing each other over Ukraine/Taiwan meant the opposite.

    Reuters on 2/4:

    https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...nsion-moscow-backs-beijing-taiwan-2022-02-04/

    Their joint statement literally read: “Friendship between the two States has no limits, there are no forbidden areas of cooperation.”

    They meant what they told the world they meant.
     
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  14. Jake Barnes

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    My favorite Chinese gov talking point is their frustration at not understanding why nobody trusts them.
     
  15. jawsthegreat

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    Yea i mean that seems right - they're fucked
     
  16. Whammy

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    Late to the Japanese discussion, but another big psychological factor at the time for the Allies was the German surrender terms in WWI and how it led to WW2. Essentially, the Allies were not going to settle for anything but unconditional surrender (and everything that goes with that - war tribunals, national contrition, demilitarization) from either Japan or Germany even though by 1944 it was clear that they had lost and were just angling for a deal. Allies risked losing popular support at home for a multi-year invasion / occupation of Japan and the associated costs.

    Of course there were other options, but based on the Pacific experience and the horrific suicides by civilians it was pretty apparent the cost from a treasure and humanitarian perspective to invade and occupy the home islands would be absolutely massive. Public would have maybe tolerated for a year (why send my son to take that damn island?), and the chance at total victory potentially lost.

    Not any illusions that Americans are saints, but if total victory was a "must have," then there weren't many options on the table given the Japanese will to withstand starvation, and literally die to the last man / woman / child.
     
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  17. RavenNole

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    I mean any mig flying over the Black Sea right now is in a war zone. Not sure this changes much even if the Russians took them out.
     
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  18. pnk$krtcrÿnästÿ

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    Can we finally get back to making sweet videogames where the bad guys are all Russian?
     
  19. RavenNole

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    So what lies is Putin telling the people about the stock market closure? Maybe it’s not discussed like here but a multi-day closure doesn’t just go unnoticed
     
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  20. jorge

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    Remember, no Russian...
     
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  21. IV

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    Just in time for a new Bond as well
     
  22. RavenNole

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    that’s definitely incoming. Also all your favorite spy novels and Netflix shows.
     
  23. Irush

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    John Le Carre revival time imo
     
  24. HowdyHorns

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    You a
    You know the old adage: Better to be thought militarily incompetent than to invade and remove all doubt.
     
  25. Tarpon Nole

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    I mean, shoring down a jet and the shooting down the rescue helicopter sent after it is something

    if that’s what happened
     
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  26. angus

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    Saw a couple of tweets saying bad weather was the cause.
     
  27. Cornfed Buffalo

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  28. Lawnole23

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    If you just flip that graph of the stocks doing down upside down now they're going up just like the morale of Russian forces as the neo-nazi Ukrainian dogs surrender in mass and the populace brings cookies to Russian soldiers for liberating them.
     
  29. IV

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    Seems prudent
     
  30. Fran Tarkenton

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    Probably just saying they need to be closed with the peacetalks at the belarus border are ongoing
     
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  31. pnk$krtcrÿnästÿ

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    Would love the Western-Russian culture war to spill over to the gaming world where ghost recon games rule again and Russian youth have to instead play the State made game "Hero of Republik!" which is just a pirated copy of Code Veronica
     
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  32. pnk$krtcrÿnästÿ

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    Pop culture has sucked since the Cold War ended. Time for a new Western renaissance of tits action movies
     
  33. theregionsitter

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    I’m sure Netflix has already greenlit “Ghost of Kyiv”
     
  34. jorge

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    Yeah killing religious zealot insurgents is getting old now.
     
  35. timo

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    people in that thread saying it crashed over land, near the Black Sea and Ukrainian border.
     
  36. chuckmasterflex

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    That's is an awfully big number
     
  37. Lyrtch

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    always found this to be in tension with what happened
     
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  38. jorge

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    I'm no military expert but that sounds like massive casualties
     
  39. bro

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    What in the fuck
     
  40. Buns

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    I just restarted The Americans. It’s such a great show. Top 5 for me imo
     
  41. jorge

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    lol invading a nuclear power seems pretty bold
     
  42. angus

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    Funny if real.

     
  43. Herpitus Derp

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    He is an absolute clown fucker.
     
  44. jorge

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    but yeah wtf
     
  45. (Z)

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  46. Goose

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    Florida posters, control your governor
     
  47. angus

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  48. ramszoolander

    ramszoolander Guess what? Vulcan butt!
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    I WAS HACKED
     
  49. angus

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    Took a week.

     
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  50. ramszoolander

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    How about you tell us what you REALLY think?