Official Ukraine Thread: Welcome to Hell Motherfuckers

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  1. Prospector

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    Another Suspicious fire in Russia: The Central Aerohydrodynamic Institute in Zhukovsky Burns


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    The most recent in a very long list of fires at Russian military assets erupted in flames due to an electrical fire at the neighboring electrical substation powering it

    The Central Aerohydrodynamic Institute in Zhukovsky, about 25 miles south of Moscow, is a hub of jet engine design and development for Russian rockets and Military jets. And it is now another casualty of what is being called a campaign of “Ukrainian Saboteurs in Russia.”
    From the Daily Mail:

    “Professor Douglas London, of Georgetown University’s School of Foreign Service, and a retired 34-year CIA operations officer, told Foreign Policy journal that some recent incidents - including oil deport fires - may have been sabotage linked to the war.

    'US and allied enabling of a Ukrainian sabotage campaign inside Russia telegraphs a significant and escalating cost Putin can ill afford,' he said.’”
    www.dailymail.co.uk/…

    From Newsweek:

    “The Moscow regional branch of the Russian emergencies ministry said that the fire broke out at a transformer station on the site at around 9 a.m. local time Saturday”

    www.newsweek.com/…


    The institute’s website describes it аs “the world’s lаrgest scientific reseаrch center.”

    According to the website, the center is аssisting in the development of next-generаtion jet аircrаft such аs the new Ilyushin Il-96 аnd Tupolev Tu-204.

    Here’s Newsweek’s list of recent fires in Russia (not even CLOSE to a “FULL” list):

    www.newsweek.com/...
     
  2. ats

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    Boris , why always Boris?

    Love the wire callback and Sergei was Ukrainian
     
  3. enjj

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    You read these tweets and wonder how much damage is it doing to the big picture? What type of an impact is this truly having? I want to believe at a certain point soon we will hear who is gaining the upper hand and who is being pushed back.
     
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  4. theregionsitter

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    Russia has 1,000’s of Orlan drones apparently- Ukraine knocking down drones is just whatever
     
  5. timo

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    "Drones" can mean commercial ones you can buy on amazon and rig up to drop grenades (or site artillery) or ultra capable ones that cost millions of dollars. And those Orlan ones are cheap pieces of shit they have lots of that aren't any more complicated than what a college engineering lab can assemble. Russia is digging out old 1970s cruise missiles, so that doesn't mean much either. Their infantry fighting vehicles are shit but they have tons of them and they're easily manufactured and repaired - the design hasn't changed much in 50 years.

    Seems the Russian's have resorted to their usual (tried and true) attrition tactics - what they have historically always relied on. "We have more young men to throw into the meat grinder than you do." The Eastern front in Ukraine is basically the Somme, 1916. Concentrated artillery bombardments on limited fronts in places the Russians choose, that the Ukrainians are forced to defend. Horrific for both defender and attacker. Aim is to exhaust the Ukrainian military. Shit is going to be a slog.
     
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  7. BudKilmer

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    Russia can throw 1000s of shitty vehicles into Ukraine to get blown up but win a war on attrition but is the opportunity cost worth it?
     
  8. DistantFactor

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    We spend $800b a year on our military and we were really worried about this? Feels like we could have spent our money better gents.
     
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  9. BudKilmer

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    not worried, we’d skullfuck Russia in a peer to peer no nukes scenario.

    wonder what UKRs ability to maintain this with wave after wave of shitty Russian mech to blow up
     
  10. Doc Louis

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    Certainly not on making college more affordable. Or getting rid of potholes. Or anything at all to help minorities live better lives. Nah.
     
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  11. theregionsitter

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    Ukraine supposedly has a 750,000 man army now but I have no idea where those troops are, Zelensky is saying they are outnumbered 3:1 in the East and outgunned 7:1. Ukraine is going to collapse out of this pocket now, looks like they cannot hold it anymore. Probably will pull back all the way to the river to the west of the line is my guess
     
  12. IV

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    have they considered insulting both sides and taking a step backwards? The Russian might just blow eachother up


    But seriously if Russia achieves its goals does that tell them they can just act with impunity moving forward?
     
  13. Tigers

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    yes things in the south and south east of Kharkiv are not going Ukraine’s way currently. They are continuing to have to retreat to more fortified positions wash/repeat. I’m concerned about that front for sure.

    the Kherson area Ukrainian gains have also stalled where it seemed almost certain they would retake Kherson soon.

    I think Ukraine is having to keep too many troops north and north east to hold those areas in case Russia opens those fronts up again. That is preventing them from sending overwhelming numbers down south.

    Also we are having to spend a ton of $$ per Russian vehicle kill. Javelins and nlaws taking out trucks and bmp is not a winning equation long term.

    Ukraine is still doing well but this stage of the war is much harder
     
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    this piece of fucking shit. Fucking die already
     
  16. WhiskeyDelta

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    This is known as "Pulling the Uno Reverse card" on Russia
     
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  17. joe-

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  18. Drown ‘Em

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    That’s such a ridiculously large cap. Looks like he’s wearing Mickey ears.
     
  19. joe-

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    this is the best part

     
  20. HoosDaMan

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    lol
     
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  21. Drown ‘Em

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    What’s the trick to get behind the paywall, again?
     
  22. ramszoolander

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  23. Gallant Knight

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    I’m a loser and pay for it damn
     
  24. Corky Bucek

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    Would somebody please copy and paste it cause I’m too lazy.
     
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  25. angus

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    #19176 angus, May 24, 2022
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  26. WhiskeyDelta

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  27. ramszoolander

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    I kinda thought that, too.
     
  28. bryix

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    I use the "Bypass Paywalls" add-on
     
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  30. Prospector

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  31. Beachy Toast

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  32. Killy Me Please

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    Uh not likely. Russia can have advantages in manpower but they already show signs that they need those high ratios just to inch forward. Every km they take theyll still need to replace those men just to hold the land they captured. They can't keep that up. Especially when they cannot maintain air superiority. They'll end up sitting ducks for any counter offensive.
     
  33. WhiskeyDelta

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    The near universal combat ratio is 3:1 for a successful attack, all other things being equal. So I think it’s going to be close either way.
     
  34. timo

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    For followers of the Woofers (notwoofers) guy on twitter --- what happened to his account?
     
  35. ramszoolander

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    I had same question. I requested a follow when that happened, but haven't gotten a reply.
     
  36. RockHardJawn39

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    I want to see some 50 cals mounted on tractors

     
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  37. WhiskeyDelta

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    This guy bragging about reinventing the Technical
     
  38. AptosDuck

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  39. Tigers

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    Russia is withdrawing troops from syria…

    two thoughts:

    1. They are going all in on Ukraine (duh). Idk how much impact this has. Probably not much?? Unless it means preparing for broader conflict.

    2. Israel probably going to get more active in syria with the Russian anti air moving out
     
  40. joe-

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    what the fuck

     
  41. Beachy Toast

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  42. theregionsitter

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  44. WhiskeyDelta

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    And they’ll sell them to anyone. And honestly a lot of the non-state people it’s “in the land of technicals the man with a BMP is king”
     
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    Sochi Olympic village hotels told us everything we needed to know about Russia's military capabilities.

    I'm ready for my lofty US intelligence community post
     
  47. Tigers

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    We’ll send them all the Russian/Soviet tanks, helos, and aircraft we have instead. Sending them abrams tanks or f-16s would be a bit overkill (and a huge training challenge) at the moment. Ukraine doesn’t need them yet.
     
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  48. Tigers

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    Have to think this is heading to China

     
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  49. theregionsitter

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    Poland building one fucking large ass army, their gonna wanna use it
     
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