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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by AU3kGT, Jun 21, 2015.
Cliffs on the iran bombings?
Seems like oil refineries and weapons factories (including where the suicide drones are made) were hit based on unverified twitter postings
Really conflicting things out on it at the moment. Have seen reports of major strikes and activity to Iran shot them all down.
Only consists thing seems to be that it was a drone strike/attack on various sites across Iran.
Israel seems like the obvious actor here.
wonder if they found ties between the recent terrorist attacks in Israel and Iran.
could also be just bc Israel hates Iran I guess
Usa: Israel please help ukraine
Israel: no we must not get involved
Usa: Russia is using Iranian drones
Israel: oh hell naw
Or Israel's PM starting shit to hold on to power
This is a joke, right? When are they going to deliver them, April 20th?
Some. I think Poland will give there's up right away.
Ukraine propaganda now openly talking about just sitting tight for the next 3-4 months and letting Russia exhaust itself again- this may force Putin to do another mobilization
Looks like Russian artillery is collapsing, less and less shells fired every day
Seems smart? I’m just a moron who is fascinated by Russias miscalculation and the worlds response, but maybe hunkering down and letting russia exhaust it’s supplies while you wait on Abrams, Leopards and F-16s isn’t a terrible idea?
and wait on another 90,000+ soldiers to finish training
The gamble for the Ukrainians is the drag on their economy, mounting military / civilian deaths, and the chances that the Russians achieve a breakthrough somewhere on the line. One thing the Russians have is an almost limitless supply of men. "Quantity has a quality of its own" and such. Ask the Germans or French or Commonwealth when fighting the Russians or anyone who has had to fight the Chinese over the last 2 millennia.
Plus, there's US politics. The minute there's a dip in the US economy, the Republican Party (most of their political figures at least partially sympathize with authoritarian Putin, if aren't outright funded by him) will look to hang the billions spent on arming Ukraine around Biden's neck like a lead anchor. Ukraine simply can't trust the US will be able to help beyond this year.
the Russian population is 141 million, nothing to sneeze at but equating them to China is not a good comp. The French and Germans weren’t defeated because Russia had too many bodies.
It’s a shame. Also I hope we didn’t do it.
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No, you're right, I was oversimplifying things. My larger point is Russia has a greater population and a totalitarian government quite content with shoveling men and material into these cauldron style attrition battles. Russia has a war industry and a means of generating income from selling oil (we all get that sanctions didn't exactly cripple Russia's war making capacity, right?), while the Ukrainians are solely dependent on western arms and aid.
I think it fucked them pretty hard on making smart weapons
Yeah maybe. What matters most right now though (for both sides) is replacing tanks, artillery, shells, small arms bullets, etc.
This Morning basically re: the iran drone attacks
Israel: YEA WE DID IT AND WE'LL DO IT AGAIN HAHAHAHAHAH
Iran: YOU DO THAT 2 OR 3 MORE TIMES AND YOU'RE GOING TO REGRET IT BUDDY
Horror movie stuff
Are we about to pay the price for Israeli shenanigans
Side note our deployments to Syria are confusing to me and somehow like 99% of people have no idea we have boots on the ground there. I think WhiskeyDelta was there at some point?
yea bro, the German government is coordinating with its European allies to make the numbers line up with purely American white nationalist slogans.
I have a friend who went in the Army as an enlisted guy just before 30, despite being a super bright, intelligent dude who had a background in counterintelligence. I always wonder if he wasn't aware of the fact that you can buy an off the shelf drone to literally take out your whole squad these days. Nuts.
Yup I was. it was a really small base when I was there but I check it out on satellite periodically and it looks a lot bigger now.
My buddy just got a gig flying deliveries for a company contracted to Walmart. Has to be a loss leader thing but times this a changing.
Pretty sure that’s 30+ Caesar’s coming soon, that changes the war real quick more than tanks
What is the range on ceasars?
26mi, or 35mi with a rocket assisted shell
First battle breakdown that I have seen so far.
its crazy how close russians were to a breakthrough to kyiv
I have no idea how these would survive a month
Should also be seeing some domestic produced weapons by Ukraine soon that conduct longer strikes
Agree- this conflict does not seem like the most survivable environment for those
also lol how does it cost $10,000,000 to ship two of those to Ukraine?
What you think those things can fly themselves?
They forgot to get a quote from DHL
Fuck you Putin and MBH
starting to get ridiculous
Really interesting read on the psychological effect of the quad-copters/drones
Same thing you posted, but this guy is a great follow (and he screenshots things so you don't have to unroll a thread).
Have not seen this before- thanks for posting
I could have sworn someone gave Ukraine some mig 29s but I guess not
Poland did rumored at less than 5 but its never been publicly confirmed so it’s not on the list
Russian State News has really turned on Israel and Elon Musk this past week. Pretty ugly stuff being said
Iron dome is probably the only missile defense system where the cost of each interception starts to equal out on these cheap Iranian drones. I think I've read where each missile is about $50-60k.
It is also a really good system for what it does.
Please take them off our hands