Official Ukraine Thread: Putin On The Fritz

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  1. ramszoolander

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    Either there is or they are doing something really dumb. We haven't really seen anything except M113s so far in numbers.
     
  2. theregionsitter

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  3. WhiskeyDelta

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    Starting my 2 week annual training tour today so like last year you’ll probably get a loss less speculative posting (at least 50% because I won’t have my phone on me during the day) but I’ll try to keep up with the thread and post general capabilities stuff still.
     
  4. theregionsitter

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    Not gonna take back the country with these old ass APCs

    feel like we are gonna be seeing a lot of this soon
     
  5. timo

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    Yeah, agreed. Attacking well-entrenched positions in the open with 1970s era aluminum-hulled APCs (that were vulnerable to even the most basic HEAT weapons 40 years ago) is a recipe for disaster.

    In fact, I'm not sure any offensive is going to work (even if they can mass main battle tanks) without some sort of long range precision fires that can destroy Russian positions, neutralize artillery, and disrupt counterattacks. Since the Ukrainians don't have an air force, I don't even know that would even look like.

    I think a limited offensive that forces the Russians to temporarily abandon their attrition campaign might work, if the Ukrainians plan it correctly and have the element of surprise, but I know throwing their APCs in piecemeal will definitely not work whatsoever.
     
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  6. Bruce Wayne

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    There’s a Top Gun joke to be made here

     
  7. THF

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    Cue the Benny Hill music….


     
  8. BudKilmer

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    “So now we have tank” :laugh:
     
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    written like someone who got a little too liquored up at a ducks unlimited banquet
     
  10. ramszoolander

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  11. Tigers

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    Not ukraine related but I like these visual breakdowns. Note most are almost 10 years old data:

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  12. Goose

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    Would be cool to see this compared to other countries
     
  13. THF

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    I think the most surprising thing to me is the fact we have Huey's still in service.
     
  14. THF

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  15. StevieJanowski

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    The drone attack in Crimea took out some Kalibr cruise missiles :like:
     
  16. theregionsitter

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    supposedly
     
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  17. THF

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    Gee I wonder who told them about those fancy missiles on a train?

    In the past our intelligence groups have always been hesitant to share intel due to the fear of exposing classified capabilities. It’s really encouraging to see that doesn’t appear to be a concern in some of the cases where it “appears” we have shared intel with other countries.
     
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  18. ramszoolander

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    Wrong place for this, but apparently we gave India intel recently on a planned (failed) PRC border incursion, too. Swingin' our big...
     
  19. timo

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  20. theregionsitter

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    Stunned

     
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  21. beerme

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    China Russia makes so much sense until they actually have to be aligned
     
  22. Carl Brutananadilewski

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    yup, a lot of territory that could be at dispute too which will prob bubble up at some point
     
  23. timo

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    certainly Russia and China are at odds in Africa, where they're both trying to establish what are essentially colonies.
     
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  28. HuskerInMiami

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    I started playing Civilization VI and it's crazy how much real world things tie into it.
     
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  30. ramszoolander

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    What are they going to do that they haven't already done? They lost the UK once they started poisoning people on their sovereign territory.
     
  31. BudKilmer

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    Russia will not lay a glove on the UK
     
  32. Imurhuckleberry

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    Turns out they train here but the actual weapons are in New Mexico. Not sure why. Have seen Ukrainian soldiers in town.
     
  33. timo

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    Not sure DU ammo is such a great idea in this war tbqh
     
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  37. Drown ‘Em

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  38. ramszoolander

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    Post directly below yours shows exactly why we shouldn't give a shit about that.
     
  39. Artoo

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    The point about being concerned about DU ammunition is that this war is being founght in their own country. They will be poisoning their own people, cities, and land.

    It should be very concerning to Ukrainians.
     
  40. timo

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    No, I'm talking about the ammo itself. Everywhere it's used basically turns the area into a Superfund site. Russia has DU ammo too (Soviets had them for basically all their tanks going back at least 50 years) but I'm not sure they've been used in Ukraine yet.
     
  41. ramszoolander

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    Right, my understanding is that RuAF has already used it.

    Plus, do you wanna go out and get shot while you're digging up a bunch of contaminated soil, or just plain go out and dig up a bunch of contaminated soil. Obviously Ukraine will decide this, which is why I don't understand the faux outrage.
     
  42. ramszoolander

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  43. timo

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    Fair point, I guess.

    Half of Ukraine is going to be an environmental disaster (from both a human toxicology and ecological standpoint) after this war... the part that isn't already a disaster site from Chernobyl. UXO, heavy metals everywhere, asbestos everywhere (very high % the survivors of these battles in cities are going to be dying of asbestos driven cancers and COPD in 15 years). Plus, the longer this goes on, the greater the chance of a nuclear disaster (Zaporizhzhia, still basically on the static front line, has lost external power and flipped over to diesel generators to keep its reactors cool several times during this war).
     
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  44. Artoo

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    Very brave and noble of you to advocate from 5000mi away for them to destroy and poison their country more themselves, because the enemy has maybe done it already.
     
  45. pperc

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    how many miles away are you, comrade?
     
  46. Imurhuckleberry

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    Hopefully nearby. Maybe he could come over and voice his concerns to the Ukrainian soldiers training here at ft. Sill. That is, if his mom will let him borrow her car.
     
  47. Tigers

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    offensive gear up continues

     
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  48. THF

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    Early on in the thread I mentioned that China had to be loving the decisions by Putin, and the fact his initial invasion went so poorly. A couple people disagreed that China would care much but it seems this is becoming more and more of an opportunity for them. Even if this only distracts forces from their stripping of minerals and land from the people in Africa; all of this has been a net positive for China, at least from my perspective.

    Now this.





     
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  49. THF

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