Olivia Dunne

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  1. CaneKnight

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    Of course Captain Mommy issues is in here going hard at 30+ year old men who don't find people not even in their 20's appealing :laugh:

    I'm not going to call anyone a pedophile or ebophile (cause that's dumb and she's legal), but I'm confused as to why that's even remotely a big deal to anyone?
     
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  2. Chumbolone

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    This doesn’t feel like a subjectively slippery slope to you?

    Hookup culture exists regardless if you approve or find it appealing personally. Those are things I’d say a marriage should be founded on. But not everyone wants to be married or in a conventional relationship based on the things you or I value.

    The idea that it’s okay to gaslight a legal, consensual, relationship based on one’s own feelings is just wild to me. Considering it’s the same line of logic/tactics utilized by chuds to demonize anything/anyone they find weird or different.

    And I’m assuming you base that on the science of brain development, which I can square, but why are you/anyone so reticent to put pen to paper and make it legislation/law?

    Why is it so difficult to pin anyone down on a number, age gap?
     
  3. Redav

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    I think the question for me is not hooking up. It's engaging in a relationship with a finite timetable baked in. "I'm going to move on the moment you hit a certain birthday", whether explicit or implicit leads to a whole host of question for me personally. Why is there this seemingly arbitrary timeline? Why does it exist? What is it that become unappealing literally a day after it was appealing?
     
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  4. FresnoGator

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    John Derek did the same when he moved from Linda Evans to Bo Derek. You could have a field day with the psychology ...
     
  5. VaxRule

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    Not everything I dislike needs to be illegal. Not every unhealthy relationship must be outlawed.
     
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  6. El Tiburon

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    This is good news for me and alcohol.
     
  7. broken internet

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    I feel like the LEGALITY of attractiveness is the core conflict here. Creepiness is subjective, age is objective. The legal drinking age used to be 18, now it's 21. Smoking used to be 18, also now 21. You have to be 18 to buy a lotto ticket. You have to be at least 17 to see a rated-R movie (lmao wtf like that's been enforced anywhere in the last 20 yrs).

    All of these ages are completely arbitrary. Someone decided 18 sounded like a good age for someone to be called an adult. It could very well have been established as 19 or 20 or 23. Legal definitions and age restrictions can and are changed all the time.

    There are zero LEGAL consequences to finding an 18-yr-old attractive, ogling her, or posting about her in a thread dedicated to her on a college sports message board. However, there are definite SOCIAL consequences. If someone posts about how much they love ketchup, another person may have it in their mind that liking ketchup is the worst of the worst, which means the first person is awful. When someone believes that the stated opinion of a person is the determining factor of their worth as a person... well, you get this thread.

    The ketchup-lover is not going to change the mind of the ketchup-hater, and vice-versa.

    TL;DR

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  8. skiedfrillet

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    smoking is 21 now? what in the world who okayed stealing my freedom from me
     
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  9. dump

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    I mean I doubt she would qualify for the US team
     
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  10. Chumbolone

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    How am I going hard at anyone?

    Again, the hyperbolic spin and gaslighting is unnecessary - the disagreement isn’t that you must be attracted to younger adult women or you’re weird for not being so. It’s why so many of you feel compelled to push your subjective views on attractiveness, your puritanical takes on appropriateness, the moral impunity with which you gaslight people who don’t share your views, and why you are so reticent to frame any set of concrete rules/laws, or are even capable of elucidating why you feel so strongly one way or another aside from anecdotal evidence or vibes/feels.

    I’m in an age gap marriage. I married a woman almost ten years younger. Though it seems the details of my relationship passed the board’s relative, ambiguous, contextual, vibes test - I’m going to react to the hyperbole, gaslighting, bc I feel it’s a direct/indirect jab at me.

    When I share a hyperbolic take on fat people, it certainly indirectly triggers fat ppl and elicits a reaction from them on here. If I had a chud take on some social construct, marginalized group, it would certainly trigger ppl as well. As someone who appears to be easily triggered and reactive to a wide range of topics/takes you find displeasing, I’m confused how/why you don’t understand/recognize similar behaviors in others?
     
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  12. Josey Wales

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    Leo clearly enjoys having the upper hand in the car rental dynamic. Frankly, it’s disgusting.
     
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  13. Daniel Ocean

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    they are arguing completely different things. No one is saying she shouldn’t be able to make money anyway she wants because of her age.
     
  14. Lyrtch

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    the vernacular Chumbolone has adopted is the most hilarious sad shit
     
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  15. Chumbolone

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    Something else to lord over. Just deal with your inadequacies in therapy like everyone else, my man. Sad indeed.
     
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  16. Lyrtch

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    finding you becoming maybe the boards most terminally online weirdo amusing is very normal

    therapy is good though
     
  17. Chumbolone

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    You, of all people, should not be self classifying as normal. hth
     
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  18. Lyrtch

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    cool
     
  19. Chumbolone

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    hth
     
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  20. Name P. Redacted

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    it happened under trump and the usual suspects who would bitch and moan didnt bitch and moan
     
  21. Lip

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    this hits deep after re reading my posts in here from last night
     
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  22. Chumbolone

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    Right. But why the pearl clutching when a chud gaslights someone/something they find weird or don’t personally approve of, but moral impunity when they do it to others?

    It’s seems like a slippery slope if your subjective bias’, personal belief systems, are the foundation of morality, right and wrong, that you apply to others.
     
  23. Chumbolone

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    So anyone of any age should be allowed to commodify their body/sexuality, but the problem is actually how and why the commodification is successful?
     
  24. Daniel Ocean

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    that’s what you got from what I said? I’m just attempting to explain the disconnect between MLS and Lyrtch. But, no I don’t think anyone of any age should be sexualized. Also Kobe and Lebron KG etc weren’t sexualized when they were entering the league so that’s a dumb ass statement.

    A man about my age dating a woman about my middle daughter’s age in creepy as fuck to me. I’m not gonna pretend that dating someone 30 years younger than you isn’t creepy. Really don’t give a fuck what anyone wants to say about me having that opinion.

    I’m not fat. I didn’t have problems with with women growing up. I’m still decent looking enough to get laid if I was single. So think of a new ad hominem attack for me.
     
  25. Chumbolone

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    ? indicates a question. But I had to chuckle at “that’s what you got from that” considering how frequently you interpret things in a way only you can.

    Not sure why you internalized any of that other shit. If it doesn’t apply to you, alla salute!

    I am curious though, if a 21yo woman chooses to date a 51yo man, for say the purpose of financial stability/gain, status/fame, advancement of a career, is she a creep?
     
  26. Daniel Ocean

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    and I asking you if you think that’s what I was attempting to argue. MLS is arguing she should be able to work as a model regardless of her age she brought up Kobe and Lebron when they were going to the league out of high school. But, no one is arguing that she shouldn’t be able to be a working model because of her age. @lyrth was dumbfounded by the seemingly randomness of that statement. The argument is simply about a 48 year old dating a 19 yo and that being creepy AF.

    As the ad hominem I was just getting ahead of them to let you know it’s not just fat lonely losers who think LD is weird and creepy. There has to be an age when you would also think he is creepy. Say if he is 60 dating a 18 yo, would that do it?
     
  27. VaxRule

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    What in the absolute fuck are you talking about?
     
  28. Krieger

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    every post is filled to the brim with vapid buzzwords that mean absolutely nothing
     
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    Unreadable
     
  30. Chumbolone

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    Understood, thanks, I didn’t follow their dialogue that closely.

    It wasn’t meant as an ad hominem, more of an observation of highly correlated overlapping circles and how people’s internalized bias’ influence reactions/positions and why that to me is not a good foundation for forming an opinion. And certainly not an excuse to gaslight someone.

    I think the clear patterns of Leo’s relationships gives off questionable vibes.

    That said though, who am I to say what his motives/intentions are, how culpable he is, etc. I haven’t heard of many/any stories coming out from his ex-lovers that he is predatory, creepy, manipulative, abusive, etc.

    And despite you not being fat and still attractive enough to get laid at your age, you acknowledge you don’t live in the same reality LD does - if your dating pool were made up exclusively of young, beautiful, intelligent, talented women - maybe you’d “give in” and date some of them? Maybe it would skew your view of conventional and normative as it relates to relationships, marriage, etc.

    Furthermore, why is he obligated (beyond legality) to date who others feel comfortable with him dating and why do you/others feel it’s acceptable to gaslight the personal choices of two consenting adults?

    I can agree that transactional relationships are not likely to succeed, perhaps unhealthy, but if he’s dating her bc she’s young and beautiful and she’s dating him bc of status and money - maybe they deserve each other? Why that ruffles anyone’s feathers, or why LD seemingly maintains the bulk of culpability, is beyond me.
     
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  31. Chumbolone

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    The tactics (gaslighting) and logic (internalized feels and vibes) utilized in publicly discerning Leonardo DiCaprio’s morality/integrity based on who he dates are one in the same a religious fundamentalist might use to denounce gay marriage, women’s bodily autonomy, etc.

    It gives me the creeps or evokes an emotion are the foundational positions of a moron.
     
  32. 20/20/20/20

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    Are you sure gaslighting means what you think it means? I haven’t read all of the thread but I don’t understand what you mean by it in the last 3 posts where you used it.
     
  33. Baron

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    I was wondering when the fuck this started and why lol
     
  34. Chumbolone

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    I think so?

    There appear to be some fairly loaded direct and indirect implications made about people based on how they perceive this topic, age gapped relationships, what constitutes creepy, predatory, etc.

    I’m not the only one who seemed to perceive it this way…

    This is an example of gaslighting as I understand it… I don’t think LD is a creep or weirdo, so I must be…

     
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  35. Daniel Ocean

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    his dating pool isn’t made up entirely and solely from teen girls. His dating pool is literally just about the whole female population. I also think we have a disconnect when it comes to language I don’t think anyone itt has called him a sexual predator. What we are saying is the behavior (dating habits) are weird and somewhat creepy. You yourself have acknowledged that it gives you pause. That’s all that is being said. The dude was 30 when his current girlfriend was born. I mean come on. We can say that’s weird without believing he is a sexual predator.
     
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  36. Daniel Ocean

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    Simplistically, gaslighting is in essence “pissing on your leg and telling you it’s raining”. It isn’t just lying but attempting to make you believe what you’re seeing or know to be fact to be wrong. No one has called LD a pedo or a sexual predator. There is undeniable evidence that he only dates extremely young women. Based on that evidence and the fact that this woman is even younger than his previous relationships and he is older some have said that they believe that his behavior is weird and creepy. None of that is a lie or gaslighting. It’s a subjective opinion.
     
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  37. Chumbolone

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    Okay, but what is the implication of weird and creepy? In this context?

    When a chud says it’s weird and creepy that a trans person is teaching elementary aged school children, aren’t they really implying something more nefarious? Gaslighting?

    What gives me pause about Leo is the pattern of breaking up with all of them around ~25yo. The cyclical nature of his dating habits doesn’t seem healthy, but I don’t go as far as to say it’s problematic, concerning, or nefarious in nature. And beyond that it does feel a little self righteous to even opine on his habits so long as they’re legal. Maybe he just wants to be a playboy bachelor for life. That may not sound healthy or fulfilling to you or I, but that doesn’t mean it can’t be for him. So I try not let my personal feelings influence my opinion too much. Who are any of us to say what’s in his or her head, what their motivations and intentions are?
     
  38. Lyrtch

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    i think chumb missed that period in college where you take philosophy 101 and become a debate lord idiot so he's playing catch up
     
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  39. Lyrtch

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    you very literally are constantly doing this towards people you disagree with

    just take a deep breath before starting typing, it'll help
     
  40. Daniel Ocean

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    1. creepy/ weird = outside the norm. While it is a judgment call it’s not implying anything else more nefarious by him.

    2. Chuds believing trans or drag shouldn’t do something in and of itself it’s gaslighting. When they attach other shit is when it becomes gaslighting. If I said “I don’t think people without a masters should be teachers” that wouldn’t be gaslighting. It would simply a subjective opinion. If i attempted to attach shit to that opinion it could become gaslighting.

    3. That kinda seems like what everyone is saying. People find it weird that he only dates extremely young women.
     
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  41. Emma

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    yall ever hear the joke about being gaslit?
     
  42. Chumbolone

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    Wild, coming from you.

    For example?
     
  43. AptosDuck

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    Will it, really?
     
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  44. FresnoGator

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    It's kinda interesting how people react to different dating scenarios:

    1 - several take umbrage with LD's dating patterns / preferences

    2 - Hugh Hefner made his whole lifestyle about dating / being with hot young women simultaneously - did he get an appropriate amount of grief or did the cultural mores provide him cover to do as he pleased? (note: I don't recall much outrage at all, just what seemed like envy from many)

    3 - Jerry Seinfeld got a free pass when he dated a 17 yo chick at age 38, it seemed ...
     
  45. Lyrtch

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    every single time you try to imply people are fat, or incels, or any other thing you think explains why they disagree with you vs dealing with the logic at hand
     
  46. Lyrtch

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    this is not remotely true at any level, Hugh was getting protested back into the 60's

    and Jerry was killed in the media for his
     
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  47. FresnoGator

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    I don't remember that, but it could be because I had other things going on that necessitated my attention.

    So, you are saying there has been some level of consistency from society / the press?
     
  48. Redav

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    The easy assumption to make wrt LD is he sees women as something to be seen with, things that give him self worth. I think saying he does it because he can really glosses it over
     
  49. Daniel Ocean

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    “Howard Stern homed in on the May-August aspect of the relationship when the radio host interviewed his old friend last spring. “So,” Stern said, “you sit in Central Park and have a candy bar on a string and pull it when the girls come?”

     
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  50. Redav

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    Heffner dating 8 girls 60 years younger than him was so pathetic at the end, at least to me
     
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