Seinfeld got and still gets shit for what he did. He didn’t get a pass and also it was a one of so maybe that’s why it seems like he didn’t.
No, you’re misunderstanding me or I’m not being clear. When I use those examples, it’s not meant as an attack. I’m not saying with 100% confidence, certainty, as a fact that one’s experiences, personal bias’, formed by being unlucky in love, or being unattractive, are the reason they maintain a particular position on this topic. But I am saying I don’t blindly accept their views on this subject as genuine, objective, not influenced by their personal experiences/bias’ either. We don’t know. So I seek clarifications, definitions. I attempt to get anyone to commit to a number, gap range, find any kind of consensus or concrete definition (beyond feels and vibes) bc that’s easier to debate (or agree upon) based on something foundationally inelastic, like science/data, as opposed to anecdotal experiences which are fairly elastic between people.
you're becoming riner m8 but the former completely contradicts the latter so i dunno how your brain firing
But there’s very different connotations between saying he’s a product of our societal flaws, beauty standards, surface level value systems, as opposed to implying he’s a creepy, weirdo, pederast?
Yeah it's an outcome of society for sure where men are valued by how attractive their partner is... but he takes it to an insane extreme
I don’t know what that is. But it’s funny you find what I said contradictory considering how often any position I take, how I perceive things, are consistently called out as a result of my personal circumstances/experiences as opposed to just the merit I find in the foundational/supporting logic of the idea/position. If the privileges and experiences of say my familial wealth or genetic lottery attractiveness are the foundations of my opinions/takes on a variety of subjects (literally things you’ve said/implied), I guess I’m flabbergasted that employing the same assumptions/tactics as it relates to being fat or conventionally unattractive, not having much relationship/dating experience, seems to be a bridge too far as a consideration.
again, you very literally have been arguing for an objectivist viewpoint and how dim subjective aspects are but are now just shifting directions that it's unfair to get critiqued when you do the things you're arguing against. that's not a premise i ever propagated so the byyourlogic thing is nonsensical. im taking crazy pills
Chumby, what’s the age at which you find it creepy and/or immoral for a man of your age to date a woman?
#Cincinnati Bengals #LSU Tigers https://www.marca.com/en/nfl/cincinnati-bengals/2023/02/08/63e3b724e2704e48028b45a1.html Olivia Dunne admits obsession with mystery someone as Joe Burrow links continue She returned to TikTok in her usual style. After a period of absence, gymnast Olivia Dunne returned to TikTok with a video which immediately set social media alight with rumours. Hinting at a romantic obsession, the stunning Dunne posted a video lip-syncing. "Me... obsessed with you? Yes, yes I am," Dunne's video captions read. "You know who you are." Burros links In the comments, she admitted that she had met Cincinnati Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow, saying that they met at Louisiana State University. The pair also share an agent and may have met through that contact. In October, she posted a video with Burrow which her fans loved as the pair danced to a trending hit. It is not certain that this TikTok video was referring to Burrow, but it hasn't slowed down speculation.
She just did an interview where she talks about having a bf. It was in response to what her being asked what he thinks about all these random dudes thirsting over her at her meets
Had no idea who Burrow’s GF was before this post, so of course I had to Google it. Seems they’ve been together since 2016, how quaint. Then I click a link from totalprosports about how all his ex-girlfriends claim he’s also #1 in the bedroom. If Joe had perfected sex in 2014-15, he’s way better at that than playing QB.
You get mad whenever someone might be more of a freak than you, becauase being a freak is your brand.
the deuxmoi pop culture gossip account posted about how burrow cheats on his gf like two weeks ago now i feel super weird. i don't follow celebrity gossip!
It depends on the circumstances, intentions, power dynamics at play. Assuming I were single and I’m pushing 40, I’d set my dating app age range between 27-47 probably. It’s hard to come up with an exact range. I’ve met women who at 25-29 had their stuff more together than women who were 30-35. To that extent it feels arbitrary to make the cutoff 30yo for instance. After ~25yo it really does feel random in my experience wrt to outcomes as it pertains to maturity, connection, healthy relationships, etc. If I were at the beach, tailgating, the gym, a local bar, some social setting; I wouldn’t approach anyone who looked under 30, that would feel cringey/creepy. BUT if they approached/flirted with me I wouldn’t really have an issue down to early 20’s. I feel like women should be empowered, have the agency, to do whatever they want so long as it’s their choice, their terms, and the power dynamics are equal or in their favor. Dating anyone with the word “teen” in their age is a bridge too far for me. The dynamics can almost never be equal, in their favor, natural.
I mean this is all anyone has been saying. If you agree what is the issue you seem to have had? We all interject our personal experiences into our opinions and what we find moral. As long as we don’t marginalize others because of that I don’t understand having a problem with someone taking a moral stance against something. What I mean is I believe you don’t do things you find immoral, right? So why should it matter if I disagree with your stance on a given subject as long as you’re not hurting someone else.
Yea that is absolutely a both way street. I'll get roasted by MLS if I ever don't look how she wants.
Going to have to side with MLS on this one - they absolutely were it's just in a very different way than with Dunne and it was pre-instagram age. Trevor Lawrence was sexualized from like age 15 for our Clemson posters.