Papa John Schnatter out as CEO

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  1. bingbing

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    I was a bigger fan of "Better N-gredients"
     
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  2. devine

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    I mean what isn’t
     
  3. One Two

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    I think its kinda pointless to argue over which big chain pizza delivery company tastes the best because at the end of the day, they are all pretty bad, and all of them are going to give you diarrhea.
     
  4. VaxRule

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    You may want to talk to a doctor.
     
  5. bingbing

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    Players threatening to boycott if is name isn't taken off the stadium.

     
  6. Gregor

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    Hoagie always sounds the fat people word for sub. Like my Aunt Betty, she'd say hoagie.
     
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  8. * J Y *

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    So which part of what he said makes him a racist?
     
  9. Houndster

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    The part where he said the N word during a corporate conference call
     
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  10. Bo Pelinis

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    What is wrong with your digestive system fam
     
  11. * J Y *

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    But his point was that word is bad right?
     
  12. bingbing

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    Is there an echo in here?

    Now there is...
    [spoiler/][​IMG]
     
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  13. LuPoor

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    He made it clear he can't be racist because he *checks sheet* doesn't drag black men to death behind his car.
     
  14. Bo Pelinis

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    You white you don't say the n word. Fucking duh.
     
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  15. Bo Pelinis

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    They say it why don't I get to say it
     
  16. * J Y *

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    I mean don’t get me wrong it’s outrageous he would say the full word and I’d imagine the board is glad to deseat him, but showing poor judgement and being a racist aren’t the same thing.
     
  17. bingbing

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    He went on a rant about how when he grew up in Southern Indiana black people were killed by being dragged while tied to trucks (of course it's trucks), and it sounded as if he was annoyed by having to go through PR training because things like that didn't used to be as big of a deal.
     
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  18. LetItSoak

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    It amazes me that people can read that he dropped a hard R at work and immediately think of ways that it's not a big deal
     
  19. Houndster

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    He could have made the point without using it

    I think people are assuming if he’s comfortable saying it in that setting then he probably uses it quite often.
     
  20. poor paul

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    If you’re pissed you have to go to PR training because Col. Sanders could say the n-word and you can’t, well I will tell you what it will get you.

    Weird white knights on the Internet.
     
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  21. Bo Pelinis

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    Colonel Sanders also said he was too drunk to taste this chicken.
     
  22. poor paul

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    Really reinforce the point that you’re definitely not a piece of shit racist by blaming black players who kneel for social justice for hurting your *checks notes* pizza company.
     
  23. * J Y *

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    That’s not what he was saying.
     
  24. Tobias

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    most non racists have to do training on how to be less racist and then immediately drop a hard R during said training
     
  25. * J Y *

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    And I’m not white knighting anyone, I clearly said it’s outrageous. It just might not be racist.
     
  26. LetItSoak

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    I'm just going to go out on a limb and say that the first hard R you drop isn't at corporate PR training about being less racist
     
  27. Bo Pelinis

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    Malice vs. unbelievable ignorance isn't really that important in this context. You do something that dumb you probably deserve to get called racist whether you are or are not.
     
  28. Fudd

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    A good rule of thumb for any white person is not to use the N word in any context while in mixed company.
     
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  29. bingbing

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    Just so people can get the full context...

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/noahki...-used-n-word-on-conference-call/#467622154cfc

    The call was arranged between Papa John’s executives and marketing agency Laundry Service. It was designed as a role-playing exercise for Schnatter in an effort to prevent future public-relations snafus. Schnatter caused an uproar in November 2017 when he waded into the debate over national anthem protests in the NFL and partly blamed the league for slowing sales at Papa John’s.

    On the May call, Schnatter was asked how he would distance himself from racist groups online. He responded by downplaying the significance of his NFL statement. “Colonel Sanders called blacks n-----s,” Schnatter said, before complaining that Sanders never faced public backlash.



    Schnatter also reflected on his early life in Indiana, where, he said, people used to drag African-Americans from trucks until they died. He apparently intended for the remarks to convey his antipathy to racism, but multiple individuals on the call found them to be offensive, a source familiar with the matter said. After learning about the incident, Laundry Service owner Casey Wasserman moved to terminate the company’s contract with Papa John’s.
     
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  30. theriner69er

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    This is specifically why I'm asking for the full context of what he said. For example:

    This is bullshit, why are people talking about me being racist? Col. Sanders used to call black people n*** and no one is boycotting KFC. If he can do it, why can't I???

    OR

    Col Sanders used to call black people n***, it was a different time then, and we've grown as people, as a country, and that sort of reprehensible language is currently, rightfully, recognized as abhorrent, and any CEO who uses that type of language should suffer the consequences and lose their position, in addition to the public humiliation.


    I'm not saying either is what happened, but it illustrates how the same exact quote could be used in different context to convey very different messages.
     
  31. LuPoor

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    Oh good, time for more Long Thoughts with riner
     
  32. bingbing

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    I can't help but to be reminded of the Michael Scott sensitivity training.

     
  33. Redav

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    ... you can do both
     
  34. TC

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    “All right John, for this next PR exercise we’ll ask you to talk using any words you wish other than major racial slurs.”
    “...I’m afraid that didn’t go so well John.”
     
  35. theriner69er

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    Full context would be the entire statement around the quotes. What did he say before and after “Colonel Sanders called blacks n-----s,” ?

    I'm guessing it may have been racist, or at least didn't come off as anti-racist, as he's resigned and no one seems to be against that, and they have no released the full context (does Papa Johns have the full conversation that they could release, I dunno?), but it would be good to know.
     
  36. SenatorClayDavis

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    And why isn't there a White Entertainment Television?
     
  37. TC

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    THANK YOU
     
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  38. Bo Pelinis

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    And white history month
     
  39. Mister Me Too

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    So why bring up Colonel Sanders facing no backlash when he said it?
     
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  40. theriner69er

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  41. theriner69er

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    knowing what else he said, specifically right after he mentioned Sanders, would help us understand that. The quote doesn't even appear to be an entire sentence, much less the entire thought. Then again, maybe not, as John doesn't seem particularly bright.
     
  42. bingbing

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    Well yes we don't know the "full context" of the conversation. I was simply posting the "full context" of what Forbes reported. However, it's a pretty horrific response when he was in this training for blaming NFL players knelling for his business slacking.
     
  43. LuPoor

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    But what of the pure meritocracy of the unfettered free market
     
  44. $P1

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    I mean, we know the full context that Papa John is a Trump-supporting Republican. He doesn't need to use the n-word for me to know he's a racist.
     
  45. Mister Me Too

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    The company that heard the entire quote canceled their contract with Papa John’s, companies don’t usually walk away from contracts for non-offensive comments.
     
  46. bingbing

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    He has been Matt Bevin's puppet while on the UofL board of trustees. Bevin caught heat just a few days ago for saying "“I’m about to go in and meet the members of the West Louisville Chess Club – not something you necessarily would have thought of when you think of this part of town.”
     
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  47. TC

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    Why didn’t George Washington face backlash for owning slaves?
     
  48. Joe_Pesci

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    What
     
  49. LuPoor

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    It's a simple question Joe
     
  50. Bo Pelinis

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    A baby could answer it.
     
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