Pope calls for the Decriminalization of Homosexuality world wide

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  1. CF3234

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    More symbolic than anything else but imo it’s a step in the right direction to have the worlds most recognizable religion take this stance.
     
  2. El Tiburon

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    Fuck yeah, Francis!
     
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  4. Bruce Wayne

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    They've allowed homosexual priests already for how many years now
     
  5. El Tiburon

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    Allegedly….
     
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  7. BudKilmer

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    Andy Stanley, mega church pastor near Atl, also got evangelicals riled up basically saying Gay Christians have more faith than he does
     
  8. Truman

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    "Next up on Tucker: Wokism has Corrupted the Catholic Church"
     
  9. Truman

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    I know this isnt your intent, but child predation isnt synonymous w homosexuality.

    The church hasnt allowed homosexual priests. They've enable sex abuse of children. Homosexuality was still a no-no.
     
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  10. Josey Wales

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    Buncha heads who worship the dollar over all else getting ready to say back in their day the Pope hated way more people, and that’s why the world was better.
     
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  11. Jay Jay Okocha

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    El Papa is some man
     
  12. Bruce Wayne

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    Correct. It was more a backhanded compliment to the clearly repressed homosexual men that join but don't predate little kids
     
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    What happens to the people already in hell?
     
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  15. Truman

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    He made a point to say it's still a sin. But shouldnt be a crime.
     
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  16. Bruce Wayne

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    My mom used to be a social worker at a Catholic high school and the priest that ran it was a wonderful person but clearly closeted.

    He would spend summers up north with a male "friend." He died maybe 5 years ago and I damn near broke my mom's heart when I told her he was probably gay. I hope he found peace with himself before he passed and that if he were still alive today that this news would provide him that comfort
     
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    Wow this is very progressive
     
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  18. CF3234

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    yup. It's the best the Catholic Church can do without going against the Bible. BUT I think this public stance was necessary. Hate the sin, love the sinner, etc.
     
  19. 20/20/20/20

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    How about marijuana, Frank?
     
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    I can almost guarantee he puts a little something extra in the incense.
     
  21. Mr. Bean

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    Y’all can search for it yourselves but Benedict posthumously released this week a book (series of essays) which has caused a major shitstorm in the church. Alleges that gay sex clubs are pervasive in seminaries primarily in Germany and the US among other things (like outlawing any of his books be read etc)

    There is also a power struggle occurring over a German bishop who Francis has been attempting to appoint to an office at the Vatican that manages dogmatic affairs. The bishop is pro-tolerance and his appointment was shot down by the cardinals in the last few months but Francis is working to supersede that, I really don’t know the processes that ensue but it’s fascinating.

    Entire ordeal has the many factions of the church at war with each other right now
     
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  22. Truman

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    Sounds like the next Dan Brown novel
     
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  23. bro

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    I have had old catholic GOPers outwardly say that they don't care about what the pope says when he goes against Fox News talking points
     
  24. Truman

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    The pope is not god. He's a man and man is fallible blah blah blah
     
  25. CF3234

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    and my circle of relatives which is shockingly a bunch of old catholic GOPers are all applauding the announcement. They still don't like Francis, but think this was a long time coming.
     
  26. Truman

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    I dont really follow the goings on of the catholic church. Why dont they like him?
     
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  27. LuPoor

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    He more accurately reflects the actual teachings of Jesus of Nazareth.
     
  28. CF3234

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    He's the most progressive Pope the church has ever had. Go from there. To be honest, I tuned out their bitching about the Pope about 30 seconds after it started and haven't paid attention since.
     
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  29. BuckeyeRiot

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    Special dispensation.
     
  30. Tommy Jefferson

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    This is awesome. Our country’s biggest religion taking any step towards tolerance is going to undercut what these asshole politicians are trying to do. It’s can no longer be “my bible doesn’t support it” and more obviously becomes “I’m a hateful person”.

    While the Pope’s statement still falls short of what I’d like to hear, it would be unrealistic to expect much more from the church who changes so slowly. Unfortunately change takes time.
     
  31. Jay Jay Okocha

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    Jesuits would be looked on with some suspicion by many in the Church historically.
     
  32. Mr. Bean

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    This is kind of the root of the conflict itself

    when the pontiff takes a more tolerant, inclusive, decentralizing stance on dogma it creates an immune reaction from hardline proponents of the hierarchies and traditions in place. People think the pontiff steers the church way more than he actually does, every action creates an equal or greater reaction. Wouldn’t surprise to see a major schism in our lifetime. Interpreting scripture and dogma is a lot like interpreting the constitution, any argument can find a scriptural or traditional basis

    If you look at history of the papacy it has oscillated between the spiritually driven and the theologically driven; reformers and hardline traditionalists (a four way spectrum not two). Most everything about Benedict and Francis can be interpreted in this way, save for ethical issues of the church itself which both are guilty of
     
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  33. racer

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    The church assassinated a pope as recently as 1978
     
  34. bro

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    bad ass
     
  35. Cabs

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    Good news for Seavie
     
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  36. Mr. Bean

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    On an organizational basis (his opposition in Rome): Decentralizing influence (basically undercuts the college of cardinals and their place in Rome by permissiveness toward progressive bishops lesser in hierarchy, see Germany).

    On a spiritual basis (his opposition more widely): The thing Francis said which caused the most outrage among traditionalists is “God loves you for who you are”. Basically undercuts why many are drawn to the faith and haul themselves and their guilt to mass and confession regularly. Can’t understand Francis’s critics without understanding this.

    Much of the critique of Francis is done performatively, bishops and commoners alike
     
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    What a hero
     
  38. Lyrtch

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    Isn't he seen as the embodiment of God on earth
     
  39. Truman

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    :idk:
     
  40. Dump

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    No
     
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  41. Lyrtch

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    A quick googling shows there's a lot of debate but many within the church say yes
     
  42. Going to rewatch Young Pope, great show. Also, not saying much, but Francis comparatively to his peers is great especially following Benedict
     
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  43. LuPoor

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    You're thinking of Jesus Christ
     
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    and honestly, it seems like the process for his selection is very susceptible to voter fraud
     
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  45. bwi2

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    so much for render unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s!
     
  46. IrishLAX2

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    No, but it’s complex and nuanced. Just like the ideas of veneration and worship are different and nuanced. Dogma is fun.
     
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    Who cares what that brown skinned socialist Jew refugee has to say
     
  48. poor paul

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    jesus christ had dreads so shake 'em
     
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  49. IV

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    Catholic Doctrine says he can talk to God
     
  50. Jay Jay Okocha

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    JPII is a grossly overrated Pope. He had a lot of affinity worldwide because he was Polish and the fall of Communism. I was in Mexico City recently and they revere him. He was revered in Ireland too after his visit in the 1980s, there are a load of “John Paul’s” here and there was the demographic phenomenon of the “Pope’s Children”, that being a major birth increase after his visit.

    I can appreciate how he reached out to Catholics but can’t get over what happened over abuses. He was there at the crucial time. Benedict gets a lot of stick but JPII seems to avoid it.
     
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