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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by NWestGator, Nov 4, 2010.
Seattle is on the water...which is a fucking mammoth advantage in my humble vagina
Is he weirder than David Wu?
Congrats on the move, let me know if you need any locals advice. I live in NW, which imo is best side of Portland.
Yes, yes he is. Wu is Washington County Suburbs weird, Adams is Portland downtown and pretty much anyplace metro weird. It is what I love about Portland, long may it stay weird.
Searched for a Portland thread....Ima use this.
So Ill be in Portland from the 4th to the 8th for work and have some things lined up but there are nights ill be free. Where should I go or what should I see? All of my free time will be after 6pm.
Have a happy hour to go to at Bridgeport Brewpub and a dinner at Irving St Kitchen already planned. Hopefully those places dont suck.
Hello at the show I'd like to move to Portland plz
Do you have a job lined up in Portland already? If not, you are in the majority of those that move there so don't worry
Just go around the street neighborhoods like Alberta, Hawthorne, and Division if nothing really comes up.
sorry it's full
Where are you staying
Been in Seattle about 8-9 months now, pretty obsessed with the PNW.
-Food & Beer rival any other place I've been in the US. Beer may be the best in the world, and I don't feel like I'm exaggerating.
-Mountains/Water/Everything outdoors is all sooo easily accessible. Moreso than I even anticipated
-Lifestyle/progressive culture is pretty in your face, but I love it--one of my bosses has blue hair, hand tattoos, plays in a rock band and is a badass lawyer--can't think of many other places where that's socially acceptable
-Vancouver/Portland/other cool areas are driving distance
-Rent, and housing, is comically high--and only increasing
-Traffic sucks, and public transportation is mediocre at best
-Winter is pretty rough. Got to get outside and do stuff
IMO, you have to take advantage of the surrounding areas and all it has to offer. If you just stayed in the city I can see why you wouldn't like it. But within an hour in almost any direction are amazing mountains/islands/any outdoor activity you can think of. Having said that, I have no idea how people can afford to live here unless you have a pretty nice salary. It's expensive AF.
2112 NW Quimby Street #435, Portland, OR 97210
Will post more later but you're walking distance to Ken's artisan bakery which is about the best place in town and gets nationally recognized. Great for lunch sandwiches.
there is probably an applebees within driving distance
You must be from the deep south if you think a Seattle winter is rough
Agree with everything else. I think most people that move to the PNW coastal cities have next to nothing saved. It's where 25 years olds go to retire
I'm from Alabama, but I didn't mean rough in terms of temperature--just the constant grey and overcast and drizzle. I leave my spot around 7:30 every morning for work and it's still dark outside, when I leave the office around 5:30 it's generally already dark.
Summers more than make up for it, though.
Been here almost three years. The eternal wet darkness of winter isn't any easier.
yeah it feels like i've seen the sun out like once in the past two weeks. it makes me want to just sleep all day.
It's sunny outside right now as I look out my fucking window.
Even though the constant grey sucks, you can still get outside plenty. I've still been able to do a ton of hikes, just everything's wet and muddy. I've never been a snow person and was up in the Cascades this weekend snowshoeing in like waist deep snow, which was awesome. Left the Cascades early Monday morning and was still in the office before 9:00 AM.
As long as I live here, which I hope is a long time, I'll be going somewhere warm over NYE
Go to Casa Del Diablo
Both are great imo
I was born and raised here, but then lived in Arizona for 7 years. This is my second winter back, and it’s still tough. The two days of sunshine over 3 months last winter was brutal.
I love our winters but I was also born and raised here and it’s all I’ve known
I was born and raised in the midwest and spent most of my winters in Minnesota. Any day of winter above 20 degrees is a blessing to me.
I do hate the lack of sunlight. Many weeks I don't see sunlight. I'd say it's more depressing, but not as uncomfortable.
Skiing>>>>>freezing my ass off ice fishing
This winter has been amazing though
I’m looking to move to the PNW in the next 2-3 years. I have family in Seattle & Victoria BC. Friends in the Portland,OR area.
Currently I work in the Emergency Mgmt & Homeland Security field for the Governor of LA.
Any tips or advice are more than welcome. My plan is to visit Portland for a Timbers game in the summer and try to make it up for a Seahawks game in the fall.
I work for the state in Oregon. Benefits are amazing in both Oregon and Washington. Like others have said, who knows what housing prices will look like in 3 years.
Also, no state income tax in WA is niiiice.
Public transportation in PDX is really, really good for a city it’s size. Seattle is pretty atrocious for a much larger metro area.
As for prices? You are correct. Me and the wife are about to put an offer down on a house that is the same size as the one my wife owns in Omaha, with 1/3 as much land, and it will cost us 3x more.
And PDX is cheap compared to Seattle where this same house would be almost twice as much as here.
Exactly correct on the outdoors. If you don’t enjoy them, or mountains, you really shouldn’t move here because you will spend a lot of money to not take advantage of the best part of the area.
World class hiking, great skiing (Not Colorado or Utah good, but still really solid), every single major geological feature within 4-5 hours of Seattle or Portland, and amazing grown foods (world class fruits and veggies).
As far as people, Seattle and Portland (from my experiences, Wife lived for almost a year in Seattle) are more different than most would assume. Both lean heavy to the left, but Portland is a lot less insulated when it comes to openness. The ‘Seattle Freeze’ can be a very real thing to many people if they don’t have the kind of values and attitudes that the city general has.
Also, hope you enjoy alcohol. Beer is great and the craft distillery scene has really taken off, even in my 5 years here have I seen it explode. As for wine? It’s about as good bang for the buck as you will get. It’s becoming a bit more ‘cunty’ but it’s still very approachable and I wasn’t intimidated enough to go from white and red to diving into the difference between a 2012 Pinot vintage and a 2010.
I caught myself a nice Steelhead on the coast on saturday, cooked it up a few hours later at our coast house. From creek to table in about 3 hours.
Yes I love the PNW
In that order if you want to live in Oregon.
*ranking takes into consideration weather, outdoor activities, food, beer scene, likability of fellow residents and coffee but not job market and availability/standards of single women
careful about the white supremacists in eugene
Hollerrrrrrrrrr at our regressive as fuck tax structure. No idea how that's continued to remain throughout the years.
Also, I'm on that 300+ days of sun in a year in central WA. It's always been pretty prettyyyyyyy nice.
Downside: it's central WA
What river? I’m guessing the McKenzie
Tenmile creek in the Siuslaw National Forrest. Its like 10 min south of Yachats
Definitely don't want to turn this into a race thread. But seeing as I am a black male. I have to ask. Are some of the areas is rural PNW "no go zones". I've heard about some areas in rural Washington (Specifically SW Washington). But I know very little about Oregon. If you care to elaborate.
Southern Oregon would be a no go for me from about Sutherlin to Medford. Ashland is nice though.
I wouldn’t call them “no go zones” but you will probably feel out of place in rural Oregon. Good thing is that you wouldn’t want to spend much time in those places anyways.
Portland is super liberal, but (I’m pretty sure) it’s the whitest metro area in the country.
I doubt he would want to spend time in Roseburg though. And I wouldn’t be concerned about passing through.
I was born and raised in Ashland, most of my African American friends growing up lived in medford and never had any overt racial problems.
Keep in mind, I've lived the majority of my life in south Louisiana. So nothing really shocks me that much anymore. With that being said, I just wanted to get an idea of the landscape.
Yeah I wouldn’t worry about it too much. Oregon as a state likes to pretend it’s inclusive. You’re more likely to feel the micro racism opposed to overt.
Eastern to Southeastern Oregon is really, really racist. Nothing would happen, but there is some deep rooted racism and hatred towards anything deemed liberal.
Eastern Washington is fine. There are some pockets of filth in Idaho especially in panhandle, but nothing in WA is worrisome imo. Yakima has a lot of poverty and has the crime that comes with it. Tri Cities are just really white and ag based. Spokane is just a mix of every type of white person you can imagine with a heavy dose of tweakers.
All of these places are decidedly less white than Oregon. For example, whites are a minority in Yakima and the Yakima valley. The PNW as a whole really doesn't have much of a black population, though.
Tri cities is becoming a pretty affluent area. Richland has one of the higher concentrations of rich/well educated people in the state.
Wouldn't go as far as to call somewhere a no go zone, but where I live in the mid valley it's claustrophobically white. Next to the darkness during winter its probably the #1 thing brought up by transplants for whats weird here.
I'll go months, like six months or better between seeing a black person here and I work in the community. My friends who're asian or of middle eastern ethnicity have a hard time, they get some turbo racist shit said to them with the latter having patients ask if they can have a not terrorist doctor, just one example. Doubt violence would be something to be worried about too much, but if you work in a setting where you're in the community or in the service industry/customer facing might get weird at times. Now, my Eugene quip was a little tongue in cheek, but I drove by white supremacists dressed as santa and elves on an overpass with a banner saying "being white is ok" a month ago. Huge feature in a national paper about the burgeoning white supremacist movement there and if you go further south in Oregon it gets worse.
I moved from a city that was majority non-white so it was/is even more strange.
Completely agree, was mentioning the level of racism more than anything. I've been to every rural area in the PNW due to my job, and there is a whole other level of racism in Eastern Oregon in like Malheur Co than anywhere else I've been. Now, there isnt much of a reason to go there, but I'd feel a little uncomfortable there and would feel fine anywhere else, but I'm white so what do I know.
The Nazis in Eugene are all part of the same group and one of their leaders just got arrested and is going to prison. They definitely are not as visible as the PDX fascists though, like they dont come out to rallys and stuff.
I was talking to my grandpa a few weeks ago about racism and conservatism in Oregon and he says a reason why there is such a rural/city divide is that most of those rural communities are old logging communities. During the logging boom that started in the 1930's and got huge in the 70's, there were a massive amount of poor old southern racists that came up here for work. Those racists then had racist kids etc. Just was an interesting thought.
Where young people go to retire
That's what I'm tryna do
I'll be in Portland in October
On the racism in PNW topic, I realize this is anecdotal and hopefully not broadly representative but I happened to see this story shared on Facebook earlier. Warning, it'll make you pretty sad/pissed
African-American man fighting for his life after unprovoked racist ‘rage’ attack in Auburn
Originally published January 30, 2018 at 7:23 pm Updated January 31, 2018 at 10:35 am
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LaDonna Horne stands by her son, DaShawn Horne, who was beaten in Auburn on Jan. 20 and has been at Harborview Medical Center ever since. The family consented to Horne’s being photographed because they wanted... (Bettina Hansen/The Seattle Times) More
The man accused of attacking DaShawn Horne with a baseball bat became enraged when he learned his sister had spent the night with the young African-American man, Auburn police said. He has been charged with malicious harassment, the state’s hate-crime statute.
Sara Jean Green
Seattle Times staff reporter
LaDonna Horne still can’t quite believe an alleged hate crime landed her 26-year-old son in the intensive-care unit at Harborview Medical Center with a traumatic brain injury.
“You just never think it’s going to happen to you or so close to home. I was just telling someone, ‘It’s different out here. Everybody gets along. It’s so diverse,’ ” Horne, who is African American, said Tuesday.
It was the 11th day Horne, other family members and her son’s large circle of friends have kept vigil at the hospital while they wait for DaShawn Horne to wake up from injuries sustained in what police are calling an unprovoked attack with a baseball bat.
“As his uncles, we taught him to protect himself,” said Ray Jenkins, who is considered family even though he isn’t related to Horne. “But to be attacked from behind because of the color of his skin …”
What is a bias crime?
Under Washington state law, the malicious harassment — or hate crime — statute provides protections for people attacked over race, color, religion, ancestry, national origin, gender, sexual orientation or mental, physical or sensory handicap.
Here’s an explanation of what "bias crime" actually means.
“Who can be prepared for that?” said LaDonna Horne’s brother, Rodney King, finishing his best friend’s sentence.
Auburn police and King County prosecutors say Horne is the victim of a brutal assault and hate crime, perpetrated by the 18-year-old brother of a young woman with whom Horne spent a night.
From what his family has been able to piece together, Horne, a mail handler for the U.S. Postal Service who lives in Kent, had a rare Friday night off Jan. 19. He wanted to go to a particular nightclub in Seattle’s Pioneer Square but couldn’t get in, so he went to another nearby club instead. There, he met a woman in her 20s and the two “hit it off,” LaDonna Horne said.
At the end of the night, she invited him back to her place in Auburn.
The next morning, the woman called a Lyft car to drive Horne home, according to his relatives and charging papers.
It was the Lyft driver — who had backed into the driveway of a home in the 600 block of 27th Street Southeast — who witnessed the assault and called 911 just before 10:30 a.m. on Jan. 20, the charges say.
According to charging papers:
Tuimauga was carrying an aluminum baseball bat when he approached the Lyft driver and asked who the driver was there to pick up. The driver gave Tuimauga’s sister’s name as the person who had requested the ride, then watched as Tuimauga walked to a corner of the fenced yard.
A short time later, the driver saw Horne walk along the side of the house toward the driveway and heard him argue with Tuimauga, the charges say. He “then heard a thump sound like a bat had struck something,” according to charging papers.
The driver looked back and saw Tuimauga strike Horne in the head twice with the bat and watched him fall to the ground, the charges say.
The Lyft driver drove away and parked two houses down, where he saw Tuimauga hit Horne three more times with the bat while he was lying unconscious on the ground, the charges say.
Part of the attack was captured by a neighbor’s video-surveillance camera, and the footage shows Tuimauga armed with the bat and Horne “falling into the frame” already unconscious, charging papers say.
While Horne was lying bloody in the front yard, Tuimauga used his cellphone to video-record the injured man while yelling racial slurs at him, the charges say.
According to the charges, Tuimauga repeatedly used the N-word.
State law defines malicious harassment — a felony commonly referred to as a hate crime — as intentionally injuring, damaging property or threatening someone because of his or her perception of the victim’s race, color, religion, ancestry, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, or mental, physical or sensory handicap.
Tuimauga’s father and sister were inside the home and did not witness the attack, the charges say. But the sister told police her brother later broke down her bedroom door and called her a “whore,” charging papers say.
At Harborview, doctors removed parts of Horne’s skull to relieve swelling in his brain, the charges say.
His brother, Obediyah Israel, set up a GoFundMe page on Friday to help cover his brother’s medical bills, lost wages and child support for his 16-month-old son, Deion. So far, the campaign has raised more than $3,800 of a $25,000 goal.
Horne was a star football player at Federal Way High School and studied criminal justice at Eastern Washington University for three years before dropping out when his former girlfriend got pregnant.
His family remains hopeful he will recover but know he’s got a long road ahead. Horne — who underwent surgery on his trachea Monday — will remain in the hospital for at least the next six months, and his prognosis is unknown, King said. The family consented to Horne’s being photographed in his hospital bed because they wanted people to see what a hate crime looks like.
LaDonna Horne said her faith is keeping her strong.
"As hard as this is, I forgive the young man who did this. But I won’t forget,” she said. “Vengeance is for the Lord. It’s in God’s hands, and so is my son.”