When the temps went sub-zero in the North East last winter this bad boy with a sweater/sweatshirt and a scarf was more than adequate. Could have actually had a lighter under layer and been comfortable. It is without question the warmest coat I own and many of you know I own quite a few. http://www.schottnyc.com/products/navy-peacoat.htm?catID=44 $310 on the website but if you're in NJ on the first Saturday in December it can normally be had for half that. Timeless style and function. Can not recommend enough.
I just use a sherpa lined hoodie I got somewhere for like $20. Works just as good if not better than several other much more expensive coats I’ve had.
"When the temps went sub-zero in the North East last winter this bad boy with a sweater/sweatshirt and a scarf was more than adequate. Could have actually had a lighter under layer and been comfortable. It is without question the warmest coat I own and many of you know I own quite a few." At just below freezing you could sport nothing but nipple rings under it and be warm. Is that better?
Depends on what you are using it for, but the Patagonia down sweater works well, as long as it’s not too wet out. I like those better than the thermoball from north face, ghost whisperer from Mountain Hardwear, etc. If it is wet and cold out, I find getting a gortex shell with layers underneath is better. Once the coat gets wet, it’s a wrap if it isn’t gortex, which makes the down sweater not so functional. So it depends on how much precipitation, how much colder it will be below 30, and how long you are outside. If you are looking for insulation and water protection, that’s a whole other ballgame. I usually go to steep and cheap (back country’s outlet site) and go from there. For reference, I have a few down sweaters, North Face GTX parka for wet weather, and just picked up a Marmot Oslo for insulation and water protection. Also have an insulated Patagonia Torrentshell parka that is also nice and not too bulky.
Very informative and helpful post, thanks. I'm mostly talking about days when it is in the 40s/30s with wind but without precipitation. I think the Patagonia down sweater and similar options are the direction I'm going. I live on the Mississippi Gulf Coast. It is hot 90% of the year. But for example, I'll be at the Alabama/LSU game this weekend and it will be in the 30s at times during the day/night and I want something warm. Also for the month or two that it does get into the 40/30s/and possibly below freezing, I'd like something warm. My heaviest Jacket is a Peter Millar wax jacket which is similar to a Barbour. It isn't very heavy or well suited for when it gets into the 30s. I'd rather have something like that Patagonia Down Sweater.
I have the hoody version of that Patagonia and it's perfect. I'm comfortable in it without layers underneath into the low 40s. Also packs down into its chest pocket which can be really useful for travel. You may be able to get it for 25% or a good discount this month somewhere like Backcountry too
I want a coat/jacket that will be perfect for visiting UK and Netherlands in December. Supposed to be 30s/40s and rainy
As part of my office upgrade I finally have a place for all of my headphones. I upgraded my dac and tube amp with the following. I also ordered a bunch of different tubes to roll into this tube amp and my existing little dot mkii.
Also, Patagonia makes a lighter down coat...the nano puff. A little less bulky (and not as warm) as the Down Sweater. I’d get hot if I had a down sweater on in 40ish degree weather, but I also live in Michigan where you hope for 30 degrees in the winter. Personally, I would get a mid weight (think insulation) from a Patagonia, North Face, Mountain Hardwear etc brand than some of the luxury (Peter Millar, Vineyard Vines etc) brands because I think they hold up better, but that’s just me. Feel free to ask whatever. I like jackets and shoes and spend far too much time looking for both.
“Yeah, like I’m going to spend $50 on a blanket when I could just cover myself in newspapers for $1.50”
I second the nanopuff for the deep south. Just enough insulation and blocks the wind completely. You can wear it in the 50s to down in the 30s.
Well I bought the Patagonia Down Sweater and for color went with Carbon. Was $250 with tax. I thought about getting the nano puff but decided I needed a jacket for when it gets super cold. Hopefully this is a good jacket because that's a decent price tag.
How long does it keep your discharge warm for you? Sometimes I don’t feel like drinking it for an hour or so.
Patagonia has a lifetime guarantee as long as you buy it from them or an authorized retailer, and most big websites are. I haven’t had to use the guarantee but have heard they are really good about repairs and replacements. I haven’t had any issues with quality over the years. I think you will find it worth it.
What's the official winter glove of TMB? Need something for this winter for out and about and the walk into/out of work.
I like my Golden Stag fleece-lined fencing gloves, but they’re a little bulky and you’ll get a lot of weird comments if you don’t live in the rural West.
Just picked these up. https://hestragloves.com/sport/en-us/gloves/alpine/31862-czone-pointer/100/ Highly recommend.
So I guess I didn't do good enough research. This Patagonia Down Sweater is much lighter than I thought it would be. It is probably best as a mid layer but it isn't a heavy warm winter jacket. It's got much less down filing that the heavier winter jackets, I think around 3oz. And it's total weight is about 13 oz. I was looking for something that is very warm in cold temperatures without having to wear something over it. I hope back country will take it back and let me get something else.