I’m excited for the post Brees era. The QB situation is scary and may not work, but it’s going to be fun to see how Payton handles it. Also if Winston sucks it will be interesting to see what we do after the season, etc
It's gonna be ugly. I think 9-7 is our ceiling. Winston will throw over 22.5 interceptions. Kamara and Thomas will miss at least 4 games a piece. Feel free to quote me if I'm wrong but I will just say it was a fluke.
It all is going to depend on the D and if Winston can turn into the QB he is projected to be. I see 6 to 8 wins.
I'm honestly more concerned with the defense than Qb Malcolm brown, janoris jenkins, trey hendrickson, sheldon rankins, alex anzalone
Pels related. Didn’t know where else to put it https://www.tmz.com/2021/08/04/jaxs...d-investigating-possible-use-excessive-force/
Jeff Duncan: 10 things I've learned after 10 practices at Saints training camp We’re two weeks into Saints training camp. Sean Payton likes to say there’s no light at the end of the tunnel at this point in the preseason. Only darkness. But 10 practices are enough to make some early observations and draw some early conclusions. Here’s what I’ve learned so far: 1. Marquez Callaway is showing out. Along with Deonte Harris, he’s been the best receiver on the field. The light bulb has turned on for the second-year wide receiver, and he is playing with confidence and aggressiveness. By virtue of his WR1 standing, he often goes against Marshon Lattimore in one-on-one drills and has held his own against the Pro Bowl cornerback. Callaway has taken a big leap from Year 1 to Year 2. 2. The defensive ends look like a redwood forest. I’ve never seen a group like this. They tower over their peers. Tanoh Kpassagnon is 6-7. Marcus Davenport and Payton Turner are 6-6. Carl Granderson is 6-5. At 6-4, Cam Jordan is the shortest of the bunch. I don’t know if they can rush the passer or not, but I expect the Saints to rank among the league leaders in batted passes at the line of scrimmage. And running wide on the Saints defense is going to be difficult because these guys are stout enough to set the edge and allow speedy linebackers Demario Davis and Kwon Alexander lanes to fly to the ball carrier. 3. Cornerback remains the team’s biggest concern. With Lattimore facing a potential suspension, the Saints might have to play with veterans Patrick Robinson and Ken Crawley as their starting outside corners. Both have enjoyed strong starts to camp but neither has a track record to engender confidence. The Saints have been working the trade market for months and will continue to extend offers to teams with a surplus at the position. I’ll be surprised if the club doesn’t add a corner before the season kicks off. 4. With so much attention paid to the player changes, it’s easy to forget about the new faces on the coaching staff. So far, I like what I’ve seen from Kris Richard (defensive backs), Brendan Nugent (offensive line) and Zach Strief (assistant offensive line). Nugent isn’t new but he’s been promoted to a more high-profile position with former offensive line coach Dan Roushar switching to tight ends. The staff, as a whole, has become younger, and you can feel the new energy at practice. The young staff brings the juice to workouts every day. Saints news in your inbox If you're a Saints fan you won't want to miss this newsletter. Sign up today. 5. The Saints love their young linebackers.Zack Baun, Andrew Dowell, Chase Hanson and Pete Werner can all run and one of them seems to make a big play at every practice. After a slow start, Baun has come on strongly in recent days. Dowell reminds me of Craig Robertson. He’ll need a big preseason on special teams to make the roster, but he’s made a positive impression. The Saints will have a tough cut at this position as I expect them to keep just six. 6. The quarterback competition between Jameis Winston and Taysom Hill is razor-close, as expected. Neither player has separated himself from the other so far, with each alternating good and not-so-good practices seemingly by the day. I expect the battle to go down to the wire. And regardless of who wins the job, I don’t expect Payton to public announce the starter until the 11th hour. 7. Speaking of Winston, it’s easy to see why the Saints signed him. With his talented right arm, he can make every throw in an NFL route tree. His accuracy remains a work in progress, especially on deep balls, but his passes get there in a hurry when he lets them go. And Winston is clearly aware of the opportunity in front of him. He’s become demonstrably more vocal and outgoing at workouts and is letting his infectious personality show more this camp. 8. I like what I’ve seen from the Saints offense in the post-Drew Brees era. Overall, the attack looks quite similar to past years, but you can tell Payton and Co. have tweaked the system to highlight the strengths of their personnel at quarterback. The Saints are taking advantage of the mobility of Winston, Hill and Ian Book by moving the pocket and designing more bootlegs into the regular offense. There’s also been a heavy diet of play-action passes to complement their zone running game. 9. It’s early and some of their heads are still swimming, but the rookie class looks solid.I don’t see any Alvin Kamara-like impact talents here, but the group of Payton Turner, Pete Werner, Paulson Adebo, Ian Book, Landon Young and Kawaan Baker has made a positive early impression. Turner has flashed big-time pass-rush skills but has struggled at times to hold down the fort against the run. Adebo looks the part of a Saints corner. He’s big, rangy and athletic. Werner looks like a guy who will play in this league for 10 years. He’s looked like he belongs from Day 1. And Book is a gamer. I stand by my comparison to Jake Delhomme. He’s a guy you can’t judge on measurables. 10. One undrafted rookie to keep an eye on is Josiah Bronson. The 6-3, 300-pound defensive tackle from Washington is quick on his feet and stout against the run. I don’t know if he can make the 53-man roster but he’s a strong candidate to earn a spot on the practice squad. The Saints were also high on massive tight end Dylan Soehner before placing him on the injured reserve list. Former Tulane and St. Paul’s wide receiver Jalen McCleskey has also flashed and looks like a strong candidate to make the practice squad.
Ive got us winning between 6 and 8 Split with Panthers, beat Atlanta twice, Jets, Giants, Cowboys, Eagles. Of course a couple of those could go the other way. Bucs beat us twice, Bills, Pats, Dolphins , Seahawks, GB, Washington and TN best us. Of course 1 or two of those could go the other way.
I'm sticking with 10 wins. We still have 2 of the best tackles in the league, one of the best OLs, one of the best RBs, a good front 7 (very good when Oneymata comes back) and 1 very solid CB and 3 good safeties. Our WRs are shit but Payton can scheme guys open. We didn't have Thomas last year, and we won games with Taysom starting.
I can see it possibly happening based on what you say, but I think we drop 2 or 3 we shouldn’t based on holes. That puts us around 8. hope I’m wrong of course