Python Programming & other inferior programming languages thread

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  1. Joe_Pesci

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    I'm not really at a point where UX design means anything to me. The assembly stuff I was talking about is the low-level language called assembly (which i still hate, btw).
     
  2. kennypowers

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    You guys seem to jump around a lot in terms of languages.
     
  3. grayton

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    Starting a program in mid August to make the switch into development. Very excited for a change and to learn something completely new.
     
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    I don't understand how ppl can have such terrible dirty data.

    :killme:
     
  5. leroi

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    if it was me? first i'd learn the basics of CSS, during which you will learn HTML and how HTML and CSS work together. Learning CSS has a tendency to also teach you the basics of design as well.

    then figure out how javascript fits into that. I'd recommend a really simple framework like jquery.

    and eventually maybe get into the hell that are javascript frameworks and package management and servers and blah blah blah
     
  6. colonelrascals

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    does anyone use jquery anymore?
     
  7. colonelrascals

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    I'd like to start fucking around with python....should it be 2.7 or 3.whatever
     
  8. Name P. Redacted

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    3.x
     
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  9. Pile Driving Miss Daisy

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    Yes, there are plenty of people who use nothing more than jQuery for a whole web app. I've met many developers who don't like this trend of rapidly evolving frameworks and feel they can do just as much as anyone else with pure jQuery.
     
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  10. colonelrascals

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    My understanding was that es6 had swallowed jquery....I agree with the rapid moment statement, but can you not do all of it in vanilla JS.
     
  11. Pile Driving Miss Daisy

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    I haven't done lots of research about all the new ES6 features, but I'm doubting you can easily manipulate lots of the DOM with vanilla as you can still with jQuery. My previous post should have clarified that many developers are using just jQuery for the entire frontend, not necessarily an entire application.
     
  12. colonelrascals

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    I think you'd enjoy this read: http://blog.wearecolony.com/a-year-without-jquery/

    I like jquery, even though I know next to nothing. You can draw shit up real quick. I just don't think its ever been less necessary (unless you develop in rails, they fucking love jquery)
     
  13. Pile Driving Miss Daisy

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    Yep, he makes some good points. I think I'm missing your point though, it seemed like you were asking if anyone uses jQuery because everyone uses a more complicated framework now and not "why does anyone use anything more than jQuery as it's unnecessary?"
     
  14. colonelrascals

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    anyone got a guess as to what the answer here is?

    (= _____ (reduce (fn [a b] (* a b)) [1 2 3 4]))
     
  15. Name P. Redacted

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    idk what language you're even talkin
     
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  16. leroi

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    yup

    ES6 was just released, and therefore doesn't work with a wide variety of legacy browsers.
     
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  17. Walt Disney

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    Is that clojure

    looks kinda similar to this right? which gives 24

    Enum.reduce([1, 2, 3, 4], 1, fn(a, b) -> a * b end)
     
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  18. colonelrascals

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    its is and it was 24
     
  19. Joe_Pesci

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    I'm at a point now where I can choose whatever development environment I want. I get Visual Studio 2017 Enterprise for free through the school, so I installed it. Went to start a project and the default package doesn't have any C++ stuff. 5 gig download required. Thank you, Microsoft.
     
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  20. colonelrascals

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    LOL.

    I've heard great things about visual studio too.
     
  21. kennypowers

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    Just introduced to namedtuple's...where have you been all my life.
     
  22. Pile Driving Miss Daisy

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    You use Visual Studio for large scale ASP.NET projects written in C#, not C++. VS is a bulldozer, don't use it when you only need a shovel.

    You guys kill me with you IDE and editor talk.
     
  23. colonelrascals

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    if we can't talk editors what can we talk about
     
  24. Joe_Pesci

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    idk it's what they use to teach where i'm at. possibly just because the school pays a bunch for the microsoft imagine account
     
  25. colonelrascals

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    lets get this thread back on topic.

    currently running a brackets notepad++ textmate editor
     
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    nice, good luck. I did the same thing a year ago and it went well for me.
     
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    Perfect analogy.
     
  28. Shiggityshwo

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    IntelliJ was really good for C++, if you want another robust option
     
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  29. colonelrascals

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    good luck grayton did the same 6 months ago. Best decision I've ever made
     
  30. leroi

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    our data has probably had thousands of hands on it over the past hundred years, and i'm just glad it is digital format
     
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  31. leroi

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    im not cool enough to use a mac
     
  32. Pile Driving Miss Daisy

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    Here's a talk I gave a couple of days ago at work about Kinesis + Lambda (using Node.js) on "Big Data" projects. Ignore the last 7 minutes or so as I was trying to use an Arduino with a Raspberry Pi to show a proof of concept example but the damn thing didn't want to cooperate until later.

     
  33. Joe_Pesci

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    i made a reverse polish notation calculator in assembly
     
  34. Joe_Pesci

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    heh heh "sharding"
     
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  35. Pile Driving Miss Daisy

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    This is what our VP posted in Slack afterwards,

    [​IMG]
     
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  38. colonelrascals

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    every time I hear shard I think of this

     
  39. broXcore

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    just wanna say i love node.js and this is a great beginners playlist to follow if you already know some javascript

     
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  40. colonelrascals

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    yes it is.

    also check out egghead.io
     
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  41. Joe_Pesci

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    Question for our professional friends

    I'll be done with my sophomore year in software engineering at the end of this term and I'm trying to find a full time internship for the summer. I started late because this is my first term at the four year school I transferred to, and pretty much every company says "enrolled in 4 year computer science or equiv program" as a requirement for applying. Were any of you in a similar position going into your junior year? I'm pretty much firing out an application to every company around Portland that is still hiring.
     
  42. Name P. Redacted

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    There's no harm in trying. It's more important to know your shit than to have something good on paper.
     
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  43. Joe_Pesci

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    Yeah just looking at my resume, there's nothing notable except my GPA I guess. I was talking to the career services lady at the school I'm at now and she was like "well do you have any side projects?" and I work too so I do not. And anyway, I'm not sure what I could do with C++ at this point that would impress anyone anyway. I have all of my school projects poorly organized on my github (fixing that right now) :idk:
     
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    It doesn't have to be impressive IMO, you're an intern. They want to know you can learn and have taken your education outside the classroom.

    At least that's how it is at my engineering firm but we aren't coders.
     
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  45. Joe_Pesci

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    Another question for people who actually get paid to do this stuff: how taboo and terrible is this code fragment?

    Code:
    for(;;)
    {
       //do stuff
       if (exit condition)
           break;
    
        //do other stuff
    }
    i used it for some trivial menu function in part of one of my bigger projects. when the TA who was grading it saw it, his comments were, among other things, "That's really terrible," "It's a perversion of the language," and "If you wrote code like this an interview, it would get laughed at." basically because i used for instead of while.

    i know generally breaks and continues and whatnot are frowned upon because it makes things harder to read but do i suck or was his response an overreaction?
     
  46. Name P. Redacted

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    I'm not a coder but...if it works, it works.
     
  47. TDCD

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    While or until might fit better but your TA seems a bit full of themselves. So yes, overreaction
     
  48. Pile Driving Miss Daisy

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    Yep, there are a lot of people who get crazy annoying about conventions combined with having poor social skills (likely your TA). A do-while loop may work better if you need to exit on a condition that will always happen, but that's hardly the worst code I've seen.
     
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  49. Joe_Pesci

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    i've been talking to some other people in the class in a slack group and apparently the TA is just a dick. i was just caught so far off guard by the reaction that i was like "what? ok" instead of telling him to fuck off.
     
  50. Joe_Pesci

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    also i'm taking GUI this summer and i'm kind of excited. i think it's in c#, which i've never used