***Rutgers Thread 5.0: Monangai Guys***

Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by teel, Aug 21, 2017.

  1. NJALLDAY_RU

    NJALLDAY_RU Well-Known Member
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    New b-ball court looks pretty awesome....
     
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  2. pratyk

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    It just feels like a lack of strategy at times. When you seemingly have your best recruiting staff in 3 years, you don't go around taking commitments from the likes of Mickens, Greico, etc.
     
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  3. SC1221

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    Yeah, I'm becoming more and more convinced that RU absolutely needs a salesman (Schiano/Fleck type) as HC to gain any traction in the B1G unless Ash happens to be a coaching/player development genius that we just haven't seen yet. Some of his recruiting moves are just absolute headscratchers and he doesn't seem to sell to the 4 star types very effectively.
     
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  4. Sport2231

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    I don’t think recruiting is as bad as some of you are making it out to be. He needs to figure out how to close on some 4*s but his 3* feel different then Floods. And I have a lot more confidence in his ability to develop

    I’m not going to judge to much of this class until we see senior year film. With recruiting timelines moving up we have to remember they still have an entire year of high school
    Football to go

    With that said, the rest of this class needs to be filled with kids that can be major contributers in the future. We need more Wormley and Young’s going foward then Mickens
     
  5. ScarletCatfish

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    I feel like as much as this has been gone over ad nauseum..he may be an edsall type. Development as the key with the difference being landing an impact four star here and there. Fogg sitkowski and bo all big parts to the equation and if he keeps his job it's probably gonna come down to sitkowski.

    Will be interesting to see if Bell is a part of this class.
     
  6. SC1221

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    What Flood was pulling in is an extremely low bar for comparison, the program was going downhill at a fast rate even with just recruiting, let alone the other stuff. I wouldn't be so hard on Ash if RU was basically in any other division other than the SEC West but you gotta do something fairly significant in recruiting and/or player development/coaching/strategy for upward mobility in the B1G east.
     
  7. Sport2231

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    What happens when Greico comes in hot
     
  8. RUskoolie

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    Player development has been solid. He wants smart, tough, dependable guys. That’s an Iowa, Northwestern blueprint. It’s boring and NJ folks don’t like that approach given how impatient we are but that doesn’t mean it can’t work. It’s his game day coaching that worries me a bit more but he walked into an incredibly difficult situation so he gets a long rope with me.
     
  9. Sport2231

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    I respect the hell out of you Skoolie but I do feel like you have been a little all over the place about Ash the last couple months. Frankly, I put you right up there with the Mods in terms of people I most trust in regards to really talking about the program.

    Game day coaching aside, and hopefully that gets better with experience, talent and a better staff, if you had to say gun to your head, does Ash get it done here from what you see now?

    And for me that means consistent 7-9 wins seasons with a chance to upset the big boys here and there
     
  10. jcb.2

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    I think it's difficult to grade Ash given the shit he was dealt, particularly on offense, and even more specifically QB. There's only so much that can be done when the QBs you inherit are Gio, Laviano, and Rettig. We're better than we were under Flood, and that's all I think you could have reasonably expected given how god awful we were. There were games in the Flood era that I would watch for 2 minutes before turning off.

    I'm withholding judgment until this season is over. Get 5 wins, be competitive and show progress, and I'll be happy. I think recruiting will figure itself out.
     
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  11. terranova

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    I think Ash has a higher ceiling than Edsall, he could turn into someone like Ferentz or Fitzgerald. He has gotten a few top recruits like Clark, but overall does not have a killer instinct as a closer, but he's by no means a horrible recruiter. This year is the first year you can judge his gameday coaching for real. I like the schemes even though they're boring. He's done a good job at player development.
     
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  12. RUskoolie

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    Idk right now. We are in the thick of the rebuild. Recruiting is just ok because he’s won 6 games in 2 years but Idk if it would have been that much better with anyone else outside a HC we would never get (Urban, Saban etc). He walked into a terrible situation and I always felt last year and right now would be the toughest for recruiting because the records would be bad. I don’t think he is a great salesman but keep in mind his first class in 2017 was on fire before he went 2-10. I think if we make a bowl game that will help him a lot in recruiting. I think S&C is the best it’s been here and I am probably all over the place because I really struggle with his Hayden Fry style of building a program. It works and it’s probably what we need but I’m not used to it.

    I will stand by my comments in spring that it was the best I have seen us look under Ash. We are definitely getting better as a program. Most of our better players are freshman/sophomores though.

    I think he is mediocre on gameday and that needs to change IMO or his ceiling here is 6-6.
     
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  13. RU_Goo

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    i would like a little more from ash on the recruiting front, but there is still room in this class and hes aiming pretty high with some positions of need like DT. If he lands a few of the top guys, suddenly this class looks really good.

    To me, it comes down to Art. I know hes a frosh but if he can progress into a big time QB or become special, it makes it a lot easier on ash to make it work with those type of guys skoolie is alluding too, rather than the ultra talented type.

    he also has a pretty experienced D returning. Not all his guys but maybe they show something like the 06 defense did and changes the tune in recruiting.
     
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  14. teel

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    :ohshit:

     
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  15. RU-Omega Potato

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    Not even The Yummy One could make Pennsylvania sports palatable to me.
     
  16. RUskoolie

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    Wow the sun aged her pretty fast. Had to do a double take.
     
  17. RSK

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    Came to post this and tag you
     
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  18. ScarletCatfish

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    Aaron young with a psu offer..people are freaking out but I'm not convinced he wants to play directly against his bro
     
  19. Dr.Jaegerbomb

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    Let’s hope so
     
  20. RUskoolie

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    He only has two OV left and one is possibly Stanford. Feels like an offer Franklin makes just to screw with us. Don't they have a commit from a 5 star RB that Va Tech wanted?
     
  21. Sport2231

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    I haven’t gone crazy about this class because still a lot of spots left and hopefully the kids we have in the class develop through senior year. Losing Young would suck though. Scout guys seem less worried about it as of now while Richie seems more concerned. Richie has less connections but he was all about Yusef Terry feeling WVU before Scout
     
  22. ScarletCatfish

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    if they lose young its just pathetic. the family knows we're treating avery well..theres the example of franklin forcing bolds out after two years. he really wants to play against his brother? the other 4 or 5 star rb in the class. if we lose him because "psu is cool" then we have a dud running the program and its not much different than flood losing barkley (not saying aaron will be as good).
     
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  23. ScarletCatfish

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    Land of the swedes
     
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  24. ScarletCatfish

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    nugs
     
    #1724 ScarletCatfish, Jul 10, 2018
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  25. Sport2231

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    And the board meltdowns have begun...All over a backup up LB and decent safety. I get the depth concerns but these posters are acting like they thought a team of 100+ football players were never going to get in trouble
     
  26. ScarletCatfish

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  27. Turkish

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    At least ash is quick to act and isn’t trying to cover it up like flood did
     
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  28. ScarletCatfish

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    Yea but these kids better get smart quick.

    Also..bo was friends so far with ahmir Mitchell and devera. Hey bo...get some better friends? Wtf
     
  29. RUskoolie

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    I honestly hate how quick our fan base wants to eat our own. These losers enjoy wallowing in self pity. It’s renarkable.

    “OMG it scrolled on the bottom of ESPN” (No shat, it does for every school and who still watches ESPN?)
     
  30. RUskoolie

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  31. ScarletCatfish

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    So here's a crazy idea..let's recruit a safety not named grieco in this class (who we probably won't even land anyway). Are we recruiting anyone for the position?
     
  32. RUskoolie

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    I don't think it matters until we start winning some games. Recruiting results for this class are just poor right now.
     
  33. BrooklynRU

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    Btw... I could give less a fuck. Wake me up when we start playing again
     
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  34. NJALLDAY_RU

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    I know this has been brought up...but seriously what goes through these kids heads? Are they really THAT DUMB?? Sure I did my fair share of dumb shit as a teen. But I also did not have a full ride to a pretty god damn decent school, housing covered, clothing(ish) covered, any and/all meals covered...what more do you need? Booze? Get one of the rich kids or upperclassmen to buy a bottle. What were they stealing? Cars?, That’s a felony and you’re really fucking stupid. I wish they would just go to jail. Instead they tweet “I’m confident I’ll get another opportunity”

    (Thank you for enduring my anger and bitterness)
     
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  35. SC1221

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    That's not how they are thinking about it. Card scamming is a lot more common than most people think. I even had a friend that did it years back (he called it "flippin the bread" :facepalm: ). I think it's something that at least some of them maybe grew up doing or were around it (prolly Gray let's be real here) and it just escalated at RU.
     
  36. ScarletCatfish

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    Hope it was worth embarrassing their friends and family
     
  37. Sport2231

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    I know what’s posted in the cave but the longer this plays with out hearing the more I’m hope were looking at suspensions for some of these other guys
     
  38. RUskoolie

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    It's looking more like suspensions for those guys unless something changes.
     
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  39. mp_22

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    Aaron is very good, saw him play once was impressed
     
  40. NJALLDAY_RU

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    Nice having something at safety...DeVera family are all pieces of shit, as far as I am concerned. I don’t usually wish ill will on people but I hope that ass gets what’s coming to him
     
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  41. RUseaweed2

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    wasn't the main reason hester left because we wanted him to get surgery and he said no? and now he still hasnt has surgery and is going to be playing on one leg again?
     
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  42. RUskoolie

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    Yes. People thinking this solved our S problem are clueless. He was barely playing last season towards the end and now spent 7 months not working out in a college weight program (apples and oranges compared to working out on your own at a gym). He hasn’t rehabbed it under the supervision of a college football training staff and hasn’t been in our playbook or done football movements in 7 months.

    He will barely play this year IMO and a frosh will pass him. Hayes will start.
     
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  43. teel

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    Towers' house where the team BBQ and Migos concert was at last year :taxes:



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  44. RSK

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    That's cool of him to do that but am I the only one that thinks it's just a little bit creepy?

    "Hey honey would it be okay if I invited 80 college guys and migos to our house for a little get together?"
     
  45. BrooklynRU

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    She paid for it
     
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  46. shawnoc

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    Pretty cool of him.
     
  47. Rootgers

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    D
     
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  48. teel

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    Westerman traded for Johnny Football. What a league

     
  49. RSK

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    It still triggers me that he isn't verified

    Twitter will literally verify anyone if you run a blog or post a popular consiparcy theory let alone run an athletic department.


    Nets new billionaire owner also isn't verified ....which also has me triggered.



    Verify my teams twitter :theswarm:
     
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  50. rut row

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    ugh, not this shit again :facepalm:

     
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