I need to hear your SoundCloud or MySpace or whatever people hosted music back in the 2000s like I need the air I breathe
Definitely MySpace back in those days. We released two EPs of original music but idk if they exist beyond CDs these days
a little known piece of TMB trivia, Popovio is a world class, studio quality drummer. If we can find someone who knows an Ibanez from a Wahl then buddy we’re in business
Rage is one of my all time favorites. However crusading against Injustice and financial inequality in America then charging $125 a pop to get in the door to one of their shows is kinda hypocritical to me.
seldom does the talent doesn’t set the price, that’s a combination of the promoter, venue & whomever is backing the tour production
Even if they said they weren’t going to take a dime themselves tickets would still be $85-$100 min. because overhead & built in cost from shit ass LiveNation etc. The only way to truly keep the cost way down would be to front the tour & production costs/independently sell the tickets themselves. Other than the logistical nightmare the major problem is Live Nation, AEG etc own or have contracts with just about every arena or concert venue in the country. You’d almost have to go the Woodstock route and just rent a giant field somewhere for each show.
It’s slightly more nuanced than that. And value is subjective. Pearl Jam hasn’t done anything worth a fuck since Vitality imo so for me seeing Rage at $200 or $300 is a much better “value” than PJ at half of that.
Zack spent 20 years wearing a burlap sack and coming out of his tent long enough to do features on RTJ albums and we’re gonna complain about him trying to buy new clothes? Also, maybe 11 of us would know who any of those guys were if it weren’t for the music industry machine pushing their music. It’s naive to think they hadn’t already sold out a little to get their message out to begin with.
Plus Pearl Jam stood up and tried to do something about it. They ended up losing, but they at least put their money and credibility where their mouth was on the Ticketmaster suit
Rage hasn't had an album in 20+ years. It isn't slightly more nuanced than anything. Both bands can/could have a say in ticket pricing and PJ is, even if you don't like them, a good price value for what you get in this era.
kinda??? the insane tickets prices coupled with the fact they’ll be playing at Capital One arena, scotiabank park etc is laugh out loud hypocrisy
lol ok I don’t want to get in to a whole supply & demand thing with you but Rage not having toured in over a decade might be more of a factor than “a new album” despite all concert goers always screaming to hear the new stuff
Some people totally missed the meaning of that song. I knew a guy who thought it was "something something, I BURN CROSSES!!!!"
I feel like most people our age thought it was like raging against their parents and then just never realized the whole point
RATM had 16 year old me reading books about Che Guevara and reading scantron articles at my local library about Mumia Abu-Jamal. older me probably would have been slightly less affected but the eponymous stuff and EE massively affected me in my youth.
I didn't realize til earlier today when I was looking at Wikipedia -- talking about Evil Empire: "The inside of the CD booklet shows a picture of a pile of various political and philosophical books, which include:[7] A People's History of the United States by Howard Zinn Capital, Volume I by Karl Marx A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man by James Joyce The Anarchist Cookbook by William Powell Guerrilla Warfare by Che Guevara Revolutionary Suicide by Huey P. Newton Soul on Ice by Eldridge Cleaver The Wretched of the Earth by Frantz Fanon Darkness at Noon by Arthur Koestler Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media by Edward S. Herman and Noam Chomsky Live from Death Row by Mumia Abu-Jamal Johnny Got His Gun by Dalton Trumbo Now and After: The ABC of Communist Anarchism by Alexander Berkman The Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck Rules for Radicals by Saul D. Alinsky Soledad Brother: The Prison Letters of George Jackson by George Jackson Walden and Resistance to Civil Government by Henry David Thoreau Invisible Man by Ralph Ellison Another Country by James Baldwin"
I guess that's the pic. Been quite a while since I looked at the liner notes of that album, or any album haha
I've read several of those books now but at 14 yeah, I just wanted to smash some shit up. The lyrics did have an educational effect on me though as Sir Phobos said. "No Shelter" is still one of the most accessible critiques of consumerism I've heard (on the soundtrack for a major motion picture, natch)
Evil Empire is 25 years old today. Snakecharmer > Tire Me > Down Rodeo is one of the most under rated/appreciated stretches of any album ever.
No Code and Yield are their two best albums. Hail Hail is arguably the best Pearl Jam song. Also, top 5 rage songs (this is really hard): Know Your Enemy Vietnow People of the Sun Born of a Broken Man Calm Like a Bomb
i'm a big Evil Empire guy. i think that album is their darkest, most emotional collection of work, especially the back half. with that said, here are my top 5 Rage songs: 1. Freedom 2. Snakecharmer 3. Down Rodeo 4. Wake Up 5. No Shelter
also, Zack is my favorite member, and i think Evil Empire is him at his most venomous. the vocals are just dripping with poetic vitriol. i also think he should be in the conversation for one of the best MCs of the 90s, regardless of genre.
Was bummed they moved the show to 2022. I haven't seen them live since '98 though so what's one more year.