Red Line for Leaving State/Country

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  1. 49ers169

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    My wife and I talked about it tonight.

    A lot of what has already been said (risk adverse). Feel like things are moving in a direction to at least contemplate it.

    But standard of living would be difficult and having to take a Chartered Accounting exam sounds miserable.
     
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  2. Bo Pelinis

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    Don’t know if it’d be bloodless.
     
  3. LuPoor

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    Non zero chance of dissolution, zero chance of bloodless
     
  4. Bricktop the white

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    Im going to europe for three weeks at the end of july. Doing the last week in albania with a friend whos a dual citizen and lives there. If i like it, i may never come back. Albania offers a 1 year no questions asked visa
     
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  5. timo

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    If you have the money get out. Not sure where to go, but get out.
     
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  6. Bo Pelinis

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    Really feels like we’re full speed ahead on the white authoritarian right wing Christian nationalism train. Seems entirely plausible that the country eventually has another civil war if the right wing march isn’t handled and the democrats are completely incapable of handling it.
     
  7. Handcuffed

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    - I don't really see an avenue for leaving the state for another state. Portland is quite liberal (and Oregon is dominated by the politics of its urban centers) so by the time things get bad here, it's almost assuredly terrible everywhere.

    - I daydream all the time about moving to Mexico, Canada, or a Nordic country. I have an old coworker friend who is living in Scotland, a good friend who's been in Spain for 10+ years, and some extended family in UK. If a wish could do this for me (and I could have a similar job/salary, sell my condo, move my belongings and dog, etc.), I'd probably leave right now. I casually browse for jobs in Stockholm, Mexico City, and a few other places every other month or so. My dog is 8.5 years old so maybe I'd approach it more seriously when she passes away.

    It's going to get bad. Not just with abortion but with LGTBQ issues and likely Civil Rights. Not to mention how important environmental issues will be ignored (and have been ignored) and how that'll basically doom the country/planet. Given the challenges with leaving, I'm probably more likely to genuinely try and assassinate a key GOP leader than actually move. But don't worry, FBI, as I don't even own a gun yet.
     
  8. cutig

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    I work for the govt in a field that isn't marketable outside of the govt so...
     
  9. RonBurgundy

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    Every single country, state, and city on the planet has its issues. Try to change the things you can change, accept the things you can’t change, and find contentment in life. Perspective on how historically and geographically lucky I am to live when and where I currently live helps.
     
  10. Nandor the Relentless

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    I work in healthcare, but I feel like unless you're a nurse, a provider, or IT, there probably isn't going to be much demand elsewhere for an American healthcare worker.
     
  11. elfrid

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    i would move to the fairytale town of bruges

     
  12. Blu Tang Clan

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    Going there on my trip later this month — yes, in large part because of this movie.
     
  13. steamengine

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    Anyone else interested in starting a pro crime team board to discuss crimes?
     
  14. steamengine

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    Family has a place there and serious talks are taking place.
     
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  15. slogan119

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    I would look at Portugal, Spain, Uruguay, Argentina, and maybe some other areas (Mex City, Central/South Am, Europe, Ireland).

    But at this point it’s just a thought, not a necessity. No kids, but also have the pet problems. And parents on both sides to worry about.

    In Illinois, so a mostly blue state, and we’re white, so we have some time to decide.

    Not sure of the line, but we’re moving in that direction, for sure.
     
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  16. Old_Gregg

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    I have talked with my wife a lot about this, but her family is in Texas and she makes really good money. Also she refuses to live anywhere cold, so my suggestions of Oregon and Vermont don’t go over well.
     
  17. AptosDuck

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    Lawyer across the street wants to move to Texas because taxes here are too high and the teachers' unions have too much power
     
  18. Randy Bobandy

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    what a wild thread. turn off the news and get some fresh air.
     
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  19. cutig

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    Dynamite drop in
     
  20. Fran Tarkenton

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    its A+

    such good food
     
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  21. GoS

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    kind of this for me

    wife deprived herself of a career by and large for 10y to be the primary w the kids and is now getting things rolling

    uprooting her means she takes a 3rd bar and tries to start a 3rd practice from scratch at age 47, seems like it would be punishing her

    but i fucking hate the humans in FL, it's a true scumbag fetid rotting carcass of a fuckhole and I am OK if we eat a nuke so eat arbys
     
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  22. Garrity19

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    Moved to Spain in ‘12 with a wife and pre high school age kids. They all hated me for this and missed the US. Moved back to the states in ‘15 and my wife lasted about 4 months and said we are moving back to Spain. All is not perfect here but it is very hard to explain but going back to the US is almost impossible from a quality of life aspect.
     
  23. 2

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    I will likely not move away from Colorado and sure as hell will never return to Nebraska.
     
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  24. Lyrtch

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    ITS RANDY!
     
  25. Flintheart Glomgold

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    Wife and I have been discussing this lately. We can both do our jobs just about anywhere. Wife’s parents were both military so she lived all over the place and doesn’t mind uprooting. Definitely going to be keeping an open mind/eye at opportunities that exist overseas.
     
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  26. Eathan Edwards

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    Wyoming is red state but JH is almost the same voting percentage democrat as West Hollywood.
     
  27. DistantFactor

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    My wife’s Thai passport and citizenship is our escape plan. I’ve been toning my legs for years as my future career as the giant albino lady boy.
     
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  28. H/T

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    If I had a job offer that paid a portion of relocation and offered a salary that kept our standard of living similar I would relocate my family with no hesitation at all.

    Strangely enough with the way that Swansea City's supporter community is I have met an incredibly large number of people from South Wales and was very very very close to pulling the trigger 4-5 years ago of becoming Taffy neighbor when I went through my divorce and had a possible opportunity with the club and a local family willing to allow me to stay with them for a period in the Mumbles.
    Now I have my kids so it's not a regret but still something I would very much do.
     
  29. Eathan Edwards

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    Have a friend that moved from LA to Aukland to work at "The Grove" restaurant and loved it there.
     
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  30. TAXTAXTAX

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    It's not weird because it's literally the same shit that huge racists say.
     
  31. Gunners

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  32. TrustyPatches

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    It may be weird but I really do appreciate knowing you are from the same part of the world I am. Even the progressives I’ve always known voted for Trump so I always feel like I’m on an island
     
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  33. TAXTAXTAX

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    I've got 3 kids and the youngest is 12. Once he's on his own, and I'm no longer paying alimony/child-support, I'm seriously considering trading the house for a sailboat and just bumming around the Caribbean. I like a pretty sparse life and I'm pretty sure I can make a living just punching tax returns part-time from anywhere. My uncle lived on a sailboat in the Virgin Islands for about 15 years, but I think he was probably doing a little smuggling, as well.

    This Orwellian nightmare we've got going on right now is seriously making me crazy and I hate it. I really need to get the fuck out of here, for my mental health.
     
  34. IV

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    If we don’t stay to fight and fix it who will?
     
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  35. Bo Pelinis

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    Who’s Randy?

    Your mama’s in the fuckin stands!
     
  36. kinghill

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    What country have you moved to and how is it going there?
     
  37. Lyrtch

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    I'm waiting on your Naomi Judd update
     
  38. kinghill

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    If you feel like explaining or describing some reasons I, maybe others would be very interested to hear. I feel kind of stuck where I am in the US due to having kids and being divorced with a custody agreement. I feel like I’m in the minority on TMB with that which is strange since divorce rate seems so high here. I know of people just leaving and leaving their kids with their ex which seems completely insane to me.
     
  39. kinghill

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    some country music chick that died I don’t know anything else shrug
     
  40. Lyrtch

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    Your virtue signaling is dim and sad
     
  41. BamaNug

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  42. kinghill

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    ok mr “I won’t live in a red state” we are all proud of you and your success

    wish I had your privilege to just pick up and move.
     
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  43. mb711

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    Huh?
     
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  44. Lyrtch

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    Yes I spent many years trying to help people navigate right wing systems and saw the incredible harm it produced and took advantage of my ability to move to stop living somewhere where my government tried to harm me.
     
  45. bertwing

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    No bc I enjoy misery and someone has to let these chuds know how big of fucking sacks of shit they are and kick their ass every now and then. God picks the toughest battles for his toughest soldiers or whatever
     
  46. JonathanCoachman

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    I'm angry that I'm Norwegian enough to be eligible to play for their international soccer team but not Norwegian enough to get the citizenship fast track. Perhaps it is time to embrace my lineage as a Confederate nobleman.
     
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  47. Redav

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    Idk how this has anything to do with what I posted but the answer to your question is actually in the thread if you've read it.

    Sounds like that post hit close to home though so a hit dog and such.
     
  48. Taffy

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    Sucks to be you, cos the Mumbles is great and you'd only be a 25 minute drive from me.
     
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  49. Jay Jay Okocha

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    100%. This happens everywhere where they think the grass is always greener. In general if you live in a western country you are very lucky. Nothing is perfect and some face challenges more rights and opportunities more than most but it is the height of privilege to talk about moving.

    That said, if your goal is living somewhere at the top of human indexes and you can tolerate some colder weather- Scandinavia is the place to go. Denmark in particular.
     
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  50. JonathanCoachman

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    The not insignificant percentage of Danes that get triggered by schools offering Halal meals for people who don’t exclusively eat pork like The Danes makes me think they’re heading down a similar path to US and Britain.
     
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