Reminding the P1's to Be One - Holding On Good Strong

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  1. BayouMafia

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    Do you know anyone who listens to The Fan?

    I remember when Whitt wrote that in November a couple of Ticket personalities attacked him on Twitter over it. I don't know where to find radio ratings to confirm what he wrote, but those numbers don't make sense.
     
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  2. Zebbie

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    I don’t
     
  3. dallasdawg

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    something is fucky with those numbers. that literally cannot be right. i have never heard one person say they prefer the fan or admit they listen to it

    gotta be the sportsday app skewing those numbers right?
     
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  4. Fuzzy Zoeller

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    Yeah I listen every day from 7:30-4 and maybe 1% of that is over the actual radio.
     
  5. Fuzzy Zoeller

    Fuzzy Zoeller College football > NFL

    Then again, the app and the stream have been around way longer than May 2019. I just don't get it.
     
  6. texasraider

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    I don’t know anyone that listens to Norm so maybe there’s an anomaly with the ratings because of Norm’s being so low? I have no idea
     
  7. Fuzzy Zoeller

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    It goes show by show. Apparently the Musers are losing morning drive by 2 points to something called Shan & RJ.
     
  8. dallasdawg

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    definitely call bullshit on those

    that article had to have gotten the ratings mixed up. you don't dominate like that for decades (decades!) then lose it all in 6 months
     
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    That’s impossible
     
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    Tons of people listen to the Fan over the Ticket and the most common reason they give me is because they talk more sports. It’s more of a sports talk station. Which is accurate, but to each their own.
     
  11. Pokes

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    I think the fan is super gay
     
  12. The Hit King

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    It’s awful but there’s a lot of trash that listens to it. Just having the Cowboys and rangers helps them a ton in the ratings.
     
  13. BayouMafia

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    article from The Athletic with host interviews

    A new era: Behind The Ticket’s decision to shake up the lineup and how it came about
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    By Saad Yousuf Feb 11, 2020
    “Who’d have thought the McCarthy hiring story could be eclipsed in Dallas today?”

    That sentiment was expressed by quite a few P1s — devoted listeners of 96.7 The Ticket — on January 6th. They were reacting to news that legendary radio personality Mike Rhyner, who founded The Ticket, was calling it a career. The Dallas Cowboys hired a new head coach, yet for some, the news of a local legend announcing his retirement was upstaging the big news.

    That was the seismic impact of Rhyner. Those were the shoes somebody would soon have to fill.

    “When I heard the news, I was like, “Whoa, OK, alright,” Rhyner’s longtime co-host on The Hardline, Corby Davidson, said.

    The search for Rhyner’s replacement began immediately. The next day, Davidson tweeted, “Today, we are trying out this young go-getter named Jake Kemp. Tune in. We will all get to know him.” Kemp, the longtime producer of the Bob (Sturm) and Dan (McDowell) midday show, was universally assumed by many — inside and outside of the building — to be next in line as a host at the station. His fingerprints on BaD Radio have been enormous, and just about everybody at the station believed it was his time.

    Editor’s note: Bob Sturm and Jake Kemp both write for The Athletic.

    Whatever the decision, news of who would fill Rhyner’s spot opposite Davidson was bound to be pretty big. But what The Ticket announced Monday afternoon rocked the Dallas sports media landscape.

    “When (Rhyner) left, it had a really profound impact on me that kind of even affected my thinking as it pertained to this,” Davidson’s new co-host, Bob Sturm, said. “It messed with my head, but it also kind of opened my eyes to thinking about the overall health and longevity of this radio station I love. It occurred to me that out of respect for Mike, I should be willing to leave a comfort zone to help this radio station that has done so much for me.

    “That doesn’t mean I thought I was the solution at all, because there isn’t such a thing as a one-person solution to Mike leaving. I mean, that’s Dirk leaving, that’s Mike Modano leaving. You don’t replace him, that just doesn’t happen. My thought was, ‘I don’t know that this is going to happen, but if they were to approach me, I need to think about more than the Bob and Dan personal bunker and think more about what Mike is responsible for.’”

    In the week following Rhyner’s retirement, Sturm thought about a situation that first came up more than a decade ago and then periodically ever since.

    “The idea had been floated to Bob and Dan, together and separately, that there might be a time where we have to split up for the betterment of The Ticket,” Sturm said. “That was as far ago as Greggo (Greg Williams) leaving in 2008. Now, it never happened, but the idea is something we’d at least heard about for more than a decade.”

    Sturm had no idea what options management was going to turn to in order to fill Rhyner’s spot, but he certainly knew that he could possibly be one of them. It wasn’t any sort of wishful thinking on Sturm’s part — far from it — but it was a sense of reality he had come to accept.

    “If they don’t (look at me as an option), that’s awesome because I would love to keep working with Dan,” Sturm said. “But if they do, well, I better be prepared to have an answer for them that is satisfactory. I told them when they were thinking this through, I want to be willing to help the team here, I really do. But let me say this: If you guys go in a different direction (for Rhyner’s replacement), you don’t have to apologize to me. I love working with Dan, I love our show, I love our audience. There’s nothing I’m trying to get away from.

    “But I totally get it if the answer to the question is, ‘Bob, we need you to be willing to go try this with Corby.’ I’m totally willing, I’m 100-percent on board. I felt like I had two scenarios, and I was okay with both of them.”

    The scenario that came to fruition — the one that made the most sense — was for Sturm to part ways with his running mate of more than 20 years and 5,069 episodes.

    “I felt really, really weird about leaving what we had done, but I also felt weird about not being willing to step up, since the station hasn’t really asked anything from Dan or I in 21 years,” Sturm said. “Maybe it’s just the idea of, ‘Are you willing to leave your comfort zone, or would you say no?’ I just didn’t think that’s what Mike (Rhyner) would do, or what Mike would want any of us to do.

    “He just retired, and we’re super happy for him, but I kind of tried to do what I think a lot of guys at the station are doing now, which is feeling energized or challenged to try to extend an institution.”

    While their run of success has been defined by how they complement each other, Sturm and McDowell were on the same page in this case.

    “It shook me up for a few days,” McDowell said. “Once thinking about it and the fun, new possibilities as far as creativity goes, and if this is the best move for the station long-term, and we can keep the station strong for another decade or so, then I’m all for it.”

    Sturm’s willingness to sacrifice personal comfort for the sake of the greater good of the station was not only key but in line with the company mantra that holds true from top to bottom.

    “The important thing here, and has always been, The Ticket,” The Ticket program director Jeff Catlin said. “The radio station, The Ticket, is a group. It’s more important and bigger than any one particular show, any one employee or any one day-part. That includes me or anybody else.

    “At that point, my job becomes very serious but very simple. ‘What is the best possible thing I can do for The Ticket?’”

    Approaching it that way made the decision easy: It’s in The Ticket’s best interest to have Bob Sturm join Corby Davidson and the regular crew Monday through Friday from 3 p.m. to 7 p.m.

    Sturm’s move filled the hole left by Rhyner, but it obviously created another one for The Ticket in the midday slot opposite McDowell. While Kemp had initially hosted a few times from 3-7 p.m. with Davidson in hopes of landing a permanent role in that slot, this new opening was a perfect match for him.

    “In the 15 years I’ve been doing this, I’ve never met anybody that has a better idea of what they want their show to sound like than Dan,” Kemp said. “I’ve learned how he does a show from him. So, to be doing a show with the guy I learned how to do a show from, it’s a very easy transition for me. He’s exceptional. I don’t know that most people understand how great he is at his job.”

    Kemp interned for The Hardline with Rhyner and Davidson as an 18-year-old right out of high school, doing so for two years. He’s spent the last nine years working with Sturm and McDowell on BaD Radio in some capacity. That’s something he credits greatly for his climb through the ranks from an intern to a board op to a producer and now a host.

    “I got to see how they do what they do every day,” Kemp said. “They included me from the jump, even nine years ago as a board op … I don’t know if there are two people better to learn from than Bob and Dan. I don’t think I could have been raised better. I’m very, very lucky to have spent this near-decade with them. They prepare better than anybody I know.

    There’s absolutely no way I could have gotten to where I am without Bob and Dan. Bob and Dan are two of the most impactful people, both personally and professionally, I’ve ever met in my life. They really do mean the world to me.”

    Kemp’s time as a host has also been a long time coming. He’s 34 years old and has spent almost as much of his life at The Ticket in some capacity as he has outside of it. But a hosting job opposite of McDowell is earned on merit, not time equity.

    “He had positioned himself for this but not because he’s been hanging around,” Catlin said. “There’s talent that’s involved, and he certainly has that. As I went through this and talked to all of these (candidates), internally and externally, this was not a slam dunk, it was not a dog-and-pony show and it was not a coronation. Everybody has an equal shot, everybody deserves that respect, everybody deserves that opportunity. The time is right for Jake right now.”

    Whereas many outsiders expected Kemp to get some sort of hosting job and Kemp had confidence in his abilities, it was still surreal for him to officially land it. Unlike Sturm moving to a different slot, Davidson inheriting him or McDowell preparing for a new co-host, this is Kemp’s first huge break. He’s getting a job he’s coveted ever since he first stepped foot in the industry.

    “The weirdest part for me about this is I feel like for 15 or 16 years of my life, I’ve kind of been chasing this one thing. Now I’m here, and I kind of don’t know how to feel,” Kemp said. “It’s like, this is what you wanted to do, this what you were after. I’m filing (stories) at 5 a.m. for The Athletic, doing this or that or whatever, the crow line (BaD Radio bit), which would take me eight hours. I don’t really know how to succeed. I only know how to be chasing it.”

    Kemp’s new co-host says he’s excited about this opportunity because he’s seen Kemp display his talents as a producer and feels this will help unleash his new co-host’s full potential. More importantly, Kemp stays in The Ticket family.

    “Jake is way overdue to be given a shot to host a show,” McDowell said. “If we lost Jake — if it was just me and Bob, and Jake went (with Corby), that would have been a big loss. He’s more than just a producer watching the phones or something like that. He’s a big, big contributor to the show and so great as a producer because he’s thinking about good ideas. We look good when we put them out there.

    “It was pretty much a given; like, of course you would want to work with Jake. They never had to ask, ‘Do you want to work with Jake?’ They knew I would. Bob would want to work with Jake. Corby would want to work with Jake. We all love Jake.”

    One difference for McDowell in going from hosting with Sturm to Kemp is the age gap. While the 50-year-old McDowell was just three years Sturm’s senior, he is 16 years older than Kemp. That part of the equation is just a prayer answered.

    “I’ve prayed for a new, young wife, but I didn’t specify my home wife,” McDowell said. “Apparently, my prayers were answered for my work wife. I’m looking forward to it.”

    As the saying goes, the only constant in life is change. With the realignment and addition, there’s no denying this is a season of change for The Ticket. But it’s also much of the same.

    “Of course, it’s a change. It’s a big change,” Catlin said. “Mike Rhyner’s not here, Bob’s moved to afternoons and Jake’s getting a hosting shot. All of those collectively look like big moves, and they are. I’m excited about it.

    “But when you talk about the actual players, it’s not that big of a change, right? Bob’s been here, Corby’s been here, Jake’s been working here, Dan’s still here, so everybody’s the same. To use a sports analogy, I’m the offensive coordinator, and I’m trying to put the best people in the best position to make the plays.”

    Catlin also denied that either decision — pairing Sturm with Davidson or Kemp with McDowell — had anything to do with competitive ratings in the market.

    “Absolutely not. We program the radio station to the P1s and to our listeners,” Catlin said. “We try to be as funny and entertaining and informative as we possibly can. That’s the only thing that’s our guiding principle.”

    Any time there’s a new show, let alone two, the natural question is about chemistry on show between the hosts. Those questions are different for each of the new pairings on The Ticket for different reasons.

    Kemp and McDowell have a head start because of Kemp’s longstanding role on the show as a producer. Additionally, Kemp and McDowell have hosted a number of shows together through the years on days when Sturm was absent and Kemp slid from his producer booth to the hosting chair.

    “Jake is certainly fortunate that his first big-time gig is going to be sitting next to Dan,” Sturm said. “The combination of those two, that feels like way more of a sure thing than Bob and Corby, just based on the fact that we have a known versus an unknown. I have zero doubts about noon to 3 p.m. because they’ve done a bunch of shows together when I’ve been gone, and they’ve been very good.”

    Even though there is some history for McDowell and Kemp to build off of, there are definitely things they will spend some of the early goings working through on their own. Kemp brings a different flair than Sturm, one that McDowell says “is not as overtly opposite as Bob would be.” But that yin-yang dynamic is what Sturm and McDowell had perfected over the years and something McDowell looks forward to establishing with Kemp in this new era.

    “Me and Bob haven’t sat off the air and had talks about should we do this and that because things were rolling,” McDowell said. “But I bet I will with Jake. ‘Let’s go have dinner and talk about some things.’ It’s a new frontier, and that’s exciting.”

    Where McDowell and Kemp have familiarity on their side, Davidson and Sturm have experience going for them. Throughout the last month when hosts were filing in and out with Davidson, Sturm was never one of them. He didn’t need a tryout to land a show with Davidson.

    “Does Bob Sturm need a tryout at The Ticket?” Catlin said. “I mean, come on. He’s Bob freakin’ Sturm. Does Corby? Come on. These guys have more than enough skins on the wall.”

    While things likely won’t be hitting on all cylinders from the first show, Davidson says he anticipates a well-oiled machine sooner rather than later.

    “I think by May, we’ll be good,” Davidson said. “I don’t think it’ll take long. I think we’ll figure out what works, what doesn’t work, the format of it all. I’m not worried about chemistry. I was when this first was broached just because he and I haven’t done a solo show together before.

    “But we’re friends, we’ve been friends for a long time and have tons and tons of respect for one another. Whatever worries I had were quickly taken care of in early conversations with him.”

    The evolution of the show will be ongoing, but Davidson has been at The Ticket since 1995 and Sturm since 1999. Building that bond for the past 20 years has helped them understand what the other person is about.

    More importantly, they understand what The Ticket is all about.

    Dan McDowell and Jake Kemp will be on 1310/96.7 FM The Ticket Monday through Friday from noon-3 p.m.
    Corby Davidson and Bob Sturm will be on 1310/96.7 FM The Ticket Monday through Friday from 3-7 p.m.
     
  14. John McGuirk

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    I am actually liking the switch so far. It’s weird, but I think the dynamic is there
     
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  15. dallasdawg

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    yeah not bad at all

    mike had 2 segments today too
     
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  16. Pokes

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    I gotta say, I’m a pretty big fan of 12-7. Sturm has been a pretty good fit on hardline and bad radio still works with jake.
     
  17. Zebbie

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    I figured Jake & Dan would be fine, but I actually don’t mind listening from 3-7 now
     
  18. Line 4 Man

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    Im still out from 10 to 3. But im pleasantly surprised with Bob and Corby.
     
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  19. Line 4 Man

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    Actually when the courage boys mingle with the 10-12 show ill stick around if norms gonna be absent.
     
  20. C-Pay

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    agree, find myself listening to the hardline much more



     
  21. dallasdawg

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    man, sam gannon... yikes.
     
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  22. dallasdawg

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    musers just said they came in 2 whole shares ahead of second place in january. i think that one article mixed up all the numbers
     
  23. Line 4 Man

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    This segment with the laddy is freakin awesome
     
  24. fsugrad99

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    I can't understand why anyone who listens to sports talk radio in Dallas would choose The Fan over The Lil' Ticket
     
  25. texasraider

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    I've honestly never listened to the fan and have no desire to
     
  26. BayouMafia

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    the only people I've ever talked to who have said they listen to The Fan are new residents who feel that The Ticket has too many inside jokes they don't get, but most of them migrate to The Ticket eventually
     
  27. Fuzzy Zoeller

    Fuzzy Zoeller College football > NFL

    Greggo & Richie Whitt's show was pretty good. I would listen during Hardline commercial breaks. Of course, we're talking 10 years ago now.

    Speaking of, anybody caught any of Ben & Skin's show on the Eagle? They had Tony Romo on the only time I tuned in, and they lived up to their star-fucking reputation.
     
  28. Line 4 Man

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    WOO HOO ITS TICKETSTOCK...
    ...duh!
     
  29. Soup

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    during draft season the fan is miles better regarding insight/coverage. Other than that I’m with you.
     
  30. C-Pay

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    Gordo asking if it's too soon to make a Kobe helicopter dad joke with Junior going "oh...my...god" then straight to commercial just now
     
  31. John McGuirk

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    Drunk twitch Sirois is my fav. Would kill to party with that dude sometime
     
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