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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by TheChatch, Apr 8, 2015.
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Who's to say Jeb Bush isn't really Hispanic?
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George H.W. Bush (Greenwich Country Day, Phillips Academy) and Barbara Pierce (Rye Country Day, Ashley Hall) thinks he's Hispanic. Or thought he was. The New York Times reported that Jeb Bush marked "Hispanic" on a 2009 voter registration application in Miami-Dade County, Florida. Bush made light of the "mistake" on Twitter. But it's hard not to think there's something more to it.
Jeb Bush is 2016's fresh face
Bush lived in Venezuela as a young man and speaks fluent Spanish. He is married to a woman from Mexico and converted to her religion, Catholicism. His children are Hispanic. The population of Miami-Dade, where he resides, is two-thirds Hispanic. If you never met him — and didn't know that his grandfather was Sen. Prescott Bush of Greenwich, Connecticut — you might assume from the above description that Bush is, well, Hispanic.
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And who's to say he isn't? After all, isn't "Hispanic" partly a contrivance — a bustling corner where the bureaucratic drive for categorization meets the mongrel realities of the New World?
Here is how the U.S. Census Bureau defines the term:
"Hispanics or Latinos are those people who classified themselves in one of the specific Spanish, Hispanic, or Latino categories listed on the Census 2010 questionnaire — 'Mexican,' 'Puerto Rican,' or 'Cuban' — as well as those who indicate that they are 'another Hispanic, Latino, or Spanish origin.' "
The fact that the board was down for the Indiana RFRA shitstorm was a true blessing
Holy shit that would have been entertaining.
PS, I tried to throw up a Hoosiers Thread Icon but this stepchild-version of TMB wouldn't let me.
Welcome back guys.
Yeah you're also on the upswing of the Leland Yee stuff, which sounds fun
I knew I was forgetting someone.
Jeb has your vote, right?
late happy easter
Obviously I need to step up my conservatism to be remembered.
I've got a lot on my mind.
The best part about The Downtime of Spring was the goddamn name change of this thread. Game Blouses was utterly horrible.
If Rand Paul just spends the next 2 years badgering Debbie-Washerman-Shultz (not even going to bother googling to get her name right) and Hillary, I'll be a happy camper.
He doesn't have to win a single primary. Just troll DWS and Hillary for two years.
what the fuck TheChatch ? why didnt i get tagged
new polls have him beating hillary in a couple of swing states
but him turning the abortion question around on dws was quite amusing
I am here. Anti-left but pro Obamacare.
Did the Ferguson stuff get worked out?
Report: Clinton changed stance on trade deal after donations to foundation
I know, right? Politics aside, it needed to happen. It's probably the one thing he's done that I support. Well, that and being the only one to have the sack to go after bin laden and kill him with his bare hands.
That says more about Hillary than Rand, I think.
She is dead.
They're all beating her in Colorado/nh by him by the largest amount
In va, they're all losing, but him by the smallest amount
He also has the best favoribility ratings among the "legit" contenders (meaning not Huckabee, etc)
Hillary to announce Sunday
Rubio to announce monday
Should have went with *Conservatives 2015*, *The Right*, *Resurrecting the Right* or something along those lines.
I'm just mad I couldn't use an Indiana icon.
These guys are absolutely horrible with naming their thread. Pathetically so.
Wait, what did I miss?
Some reporter asked him what exceptions to abortion he supports
He tells her to go ask Debbie Wasserman Schultz (head of DNC) the same question and hell answer; she says its between the woman and her doctor
Paul responds well I guess shes OK with killing a 7 pound baby
Basically he said he was tired of repubs only getting the exception question; so he goes and gets one of the dumbest person in congress to answer the same question who also heads the DNC...basically making it their stance
Sounds like he really pwned them
Glad someone finally articulated this farce that the media puts on. Lets ask a Republican about the most extreme and sympathetic situations in which an abortion could occur but lest never ask a Democrat when the procedure should be totally or mostly banned.
Early Wednesday, Paul refused to tell The Associated Press whether he would support exceptions for abortions in instances of rape or incest or if the birth of a child would risk the mother’s life.
“The thing is about abortion — and about a lot of things — is that I think people get tied up in all these details of, sort of, you’re this or this or that, or you’re hard and fast [on] one thing or the other,” Paul told the AP.
Later in the day, when pressed on the question by a New Hampshire journalist, Paul responded, “Why don’t we ask the DNC: Is it OK to kill a 7-pound baby in the uterus?”
“You go back and go ask Debbie Wasserman Schultz if she’s OK with killing a 7-pound baby that’s just not born yet,” Paul told reporters. “Ask her when life begins, and ask Debbie when she’s willing to protect life. When you get an answer from Debbie, come back to me.”
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Wasserman Schultz, chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee, quickly fired back at Paul with a fiery statement sent through the DNC.
“Here’s an answer,” said Schultz, a representative from Florida. “I support letting women and their doctors make this decision without government getting involved. Period. End of story. Now your turn, Senator Paul. We know you want to allow government officials like yourself to make this decision for women — but do you stand by your opposition to any exceptions, even when it comes to rape, incest, or life of the mother? Or do we just have different definitions of ‘personal liberty’?
“And I’d appreciate it if you could respond without ‘shushing’ me,” she added, a reference to Paul’s past encounters with reporters.
The Kentucky Republican obliged in an appearance on CNN late Wednesday afternoon but said Wasserman Schultz has “got some explaining to do.”
“It sounds like her answer is yes, that she’s OK with killing a 7-pound baby,” Paul said.
“Debbie’s position, which I guess is the Democratic Party’s position, that an abortion all the way up until the day of birth would be fine, I really think most pro-choice people would be uncomfortable with that,” he continued.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/...schultz-on-abortion-116782.html#ixzz3X0lzrAAA
apparently only 14% of us citizens support 3rd trimester abortions...thats according to glenn beck so take it with a grain of salt; but i was a little surprised it was that high
All the polls I've seen say close to the same thing. Most people think its morally wrong. Over half would allow it under some circumstances (rape, incest, life of the mother). Hardly anyone supports it after viability or during the third trimester.
Somehow the media pretends that the party who doesn't believe in any limits on abortion is the mainstream one.
I'd be curious to know just how many 3T abortions are performed under the special circumstances outlined above. I gotta guess that it isn't that high.
I don't see how anyone would think a third-trimester abortion conflicts with the usual "rape, incest, etc" arguments.
Who gets raped by their dad and then decides 7 months in that she doesn't want the baby?
Has that scenario ever happened ever?
It's too early in the cycle for abortion talk. :/
Without any information, I"m guessing that's where health of mother comes in more often than the others
How easy do you think it is for a girl who is raped by her dad to obtain an abortion? Gonna give that one a slide for not getting it done as soon as the pregnancy test comes back.
And of course the more and more difficult it becomes to get an abortion, the more likely you're going to have people getting them late in their pregnancy.
I wish someone would poll the following question. "Would you settle for rape/incest/life of the mother being the legal standard for obtaining an abortion if it meant you never had to hear about it as a political issue ever again."
No, that's too restrictive imo. I'm fine with it all except for the later term stuff. No need to drastically alter the life of a woman and force them to care for a child they have no interest in having.
Cool, we'll keep fighting about it
Democrats fighting amongst themselves about Hillary today.
I'll say this about her, if she can win the election with every Republican and half the Democrats hating her I'll be thoroughly impressed.
I don't think she can get the moderate vote. You either love her or hate her and she is very abrasive. Her foreign policy is also questionable and that is not what you want from a presidential candidate in a time where we are in the beginning of another Cold War.