Ricky Williams, No Limit Sports, his rookie Contract and more

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  1. Pelican Grove

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    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-ricky-williamss-infamous-contract-got-made/

    Posted last year, but great documentary short about Ricky's rookie deal, and the ineptness of No Limit Sports, where Williams's incentives were stats tied to Denver's Terrell Davis.

    How Ricky Williams’s Infamous Contract Got Made
    In 1999, college football superstar Ricky Williams — represented by rapper Master P’s No Limit Sports — signed one of the most infamous contracts in NFL history. Williams received a large signing bonus and a minimum salary, with the rest of the contract value tied to extremely aggressive, maybe unachievable, performance incentives. How did this contract come to be?

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  2. War Grundle

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    Pffft

    Avg 1600 yds rushing per year, 1900 yds from scrimmage and 15 TDs
     
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  3. Joe_Pesci

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    why wouldn't you want a music star to manage your finances
     
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  4. Magneto

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    Well when you trade as much as the Saints did for him he better put up those stats.

    What was it, one entire draft, plus a 1st and 2nd the next year? All for a stoner RB.
     
  5. Tony Ray Bans

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    Wow that is totally insane. He robbed himself of millions.
     
  6. War Grundle

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    His fourth year in the league he hit that avg.

    1,853 rushing yards, 2216 yds from scrimmage and 17 TDs

    First four total
    4,982 rushing yds(1,245 avg), 6,437 yds from scrimmage (1,625), 35 Total Tds, 210 points

    Average over 100 yds a game your first 64 games = not accelerator worthy
     
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  7. Pelican Grove

    Pelican Grove I think he can hear you, Ray.
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    The Saints traded away 8 picks, including two 1st rounders, to the Washington Redskins so they could move up from their own #12 spot in the draft to the #5 spot.
     
  8. Magneto

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    This was the beginning of the short lived Mike Ditka era wasn't it?
     
  9. kslim

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    make em sayyy ehhh, im broke yall
     
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  10. spagett

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    Well you're definitely not an X-Ecutioner
     
  11. kslim

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    im a mystical guy
     
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  12. NoleNBlue

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    Master P still crazy rich doe
     
  13. kslim

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    but how rich is ricky?
     
  14. NoleNBlue

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    Rich in spirit and weed drugs
     
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  15. kslim

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    my point exactly, not that there is anything wrong with that
     
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  16. CF3234

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    at least the saints got 2 first round picks back for Ricky
     
  17. HotMic

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    If wearing a tank made of diamonds around your neck doesn't scream financial security, I don't know what does.
     
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  18. Tony Ray Bans

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    Doesn't Master P have like $350 mil?
     
  19. War Grundle

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    Percy is loaded. Wonder how Silk Tha Shocker is doing.
     
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  20. Jack Parkman

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  21. Tony Ray Bans

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    My guess is he never again repeated the amazing success of Hot Boyz

     
  22. Long Ball Larry

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    Sat behind me in coach not too long ago.
     
  23. CF3234

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    that's post 1st retirement ricky.


    side note: no much early 2000s faceplam worthy shit.

    1st. pre HD era sports was absolutely brutal.

    2nd. Who let the dogs out. :facepalm:
     
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  24. -Prime-

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    Hope he had a business suit on.
     
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  25. NoleNBlue

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  26. Jack Parkman

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    They have his highlights from that magical 2002 season, its broken down into about 5 parts
     
  27. CF3234

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    yea, had that linked first, but it isn't allowed to be played on TMB so I changed it to that clip.

    Also, Fins missed the playoffs that year. FUCK you Wandstedt.

    He should have been fired for the last 2 minutes of that Patriots game alone
     
  28. Joe_Pesci

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    i love them still defending the contract like it costs $8 million to move out of the ghetto
     
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  29. Doug

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    The worst part was in his rookie pre-season Ditka left him in the game with the backup OL and surprise he got hurt.

    Felt bad for the guy - he had some serious anxiety with reporters, and Ditka put all the pressure on him with that trade.
     
  30. Magneto

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    It's hard to think of a worse trade other than the Red Sox selling Babe Ruth.
     
  31. CF3234

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    Uhhhh the nets trade that gave the Celtics 3 top 5 picks for over the hill former stars.
     
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  32. Magneto

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    I guess we need to see how those picks play out. But why didn't NJ insist for lottery protection on those picks?
     
  33. CF3234

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    Because they are idiots who thought that there was no way those 3 players who were over 33 at the time of the trade would decline over the next 8 years.
     
  34. Joe_Pesci

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    i'm guessing prokhorov wanted his new toy to be good right away and told billy king "make it happen at any cost"

    and danny ainge knew this
     
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  35. Scott Van Pelt

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    On a side note those old dolphins unis are sexy af
     
  36. JGator1

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    He promised a title within 5 years of buying the franchise :loldog::loldog::loldog::loldog::loldog:
     
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  37. DUCKMOUTH

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    Master P is known for being a great business mind. Read up on his history.
     
  38. Arkadin

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    I had forgotten about this, but check out master p's kids names :laugh:

    • Romeo – 26
    • Vercy – 24
    • Veno – 24
    • Tytyana – 24
    • Intylyana – 23
    • Cymphonique – 19
    • Itali – 17
    • Hercy – 12
    • Mercy – 10
     
  39. DuffandMuff

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    Here I was thinking that Romeo is a bad name, but he somehow got the best name out of the nine children.
     
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  40. Arkadin

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    Yeah that shit fell off multiple cliffs fast
     
  41. Gambler

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    Hercy, Mercy, and Vercy, that sounds like the Ledbetters.
     
  42. JGator1

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    "with few exceptions"
     
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  43. TC

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    Lamborghini hercy, yo chick she so vercy, I'm in that two seat lambo with my child her name is mercy
     
  44. DUCKMOUTH

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    More wins than loses.
     
  45. Doc Louis

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    Was really good in the documentary pimps up hoes down.
     
  46. Internet2

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    Master p secret Jerry clower fan
     
  47. War Grundle

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    How did his wife have three kids in the same year?
     
  48. FuckSudan

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    :gross:
     
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  50. Pelican Grove

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    On the contrary. It was his third and final year with the New Orleans Saints.

    His first-round draft picks year-by-year were:

    1997 (6-10): Chris Naeole, G, Colorado - He's in the Polynesian Hall of Fame :rockin:
    1998 (3-13): Kyle Turley, T, San Diego State - Well, you know Turley from:



    And finally,

    1999 (3-13): Ricky Williams, RB, Texas, Heisman Trophy Winner, stoner, future Toronto Argonaut

    Conclusion:

    Mike Ditka compiled a record of 12-36 with the Saints.

    And in 1999, quarterbacks to take snaps for the Saints -
    Billy Joe Hobert
    Billy Joe Tolliver
    Danny Wuerffel
    and...Jake Delhomme