Your Kansas City (?) Royals: Not Last

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  1. joe-

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    soler + happ or bust
     
  2. TimJimothy

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    Think of it from other teams' perspective; what would you want your team to give up for Wade Davis? He's not the Wader that he once was.

    I'd be thrilled to get more than just Soler for him, but if it's a 1-for-1 trade as is being reported, it's not a horrible deal for either side.
     
  3. JRodMK1

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    I think it's a fair return, actually. Most are down on the return but let's not forget we are getting an MLB-ready player with upside that has good pop. He will step right in and be our RF, a position of need. Let's not forget, we just lost Morales so this lineup was in dire need of a middle of the order kind of bat. I love Wade but we weren't keeping him, he had a couple DL stints last year, and he's on the wrong side of 30. Our bullpen didn't "need" him to still be a solid 'pen. Our lineup needs some pop and RBI potential after losing Morales.
     
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  4. Andy Reocho

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    I knew that Wade was going to get traded, and yea Soler is "MLB ready", but he really hasn't proven much. Hope it works out, but I'm going to be skeptical.
     
  5. joe-

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    kansas city needs ian happ for them to come out on top of this deal. a switch-hitting 2B/CF with some pop
     
  6. JRodMK1

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  7. JRodMK1

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    LOL if you truly think they're going to trade Soler + Happ for Davis.
     
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  8. joe-

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    I'd rather have happ + a low ceiling pitching prospect than soler
     
  9. BROADWAY JOE

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    He's a big strong kid who at 24 is just scratching the surface....He's yet to play a full season.
     
  10. joe-

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    i get that soler is under control for four years but he's an extreme defensive liability in the outfield and I think sticking him solely in the DH spot puts too much pressure on the guy to hit
     
  11. joe-

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    plus we're going to need an outfielder unless you guys are content trotting Gordon/Burns/Orlando out there
     
  12. Andy Reocho

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    Isn't he being slotted into RF?
     
  13. JRodMK1

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    Assuming we keep Dyson/Cain, I'd be cool with Soler DH/Dyson in RF against righties and Soler in RF against lefties.
     
  14. joe-

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    probably. where he'd be a downgrade from paulo fucking orlando
     
  15. jaygabriel

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    I think the Royals would be better served to get a kid like Eloy Jimenez out of this deal than Soler.
     
  16. joe-

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    i'd rather have tommy la stella than soler
     
  17. Andy Reocho

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    They'd be better served doing a lot of things instead of taking only Soler :twocents:
     
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  18. joe-

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    if it's actually a one-for-one deal there's gotta be some injury or durability concerns for davis
     
  19. angus

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    There is talk of trading Dyson to Oakland.
     
  20. JRodMK1

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    The 2 DL stints with forearm issues last year would certainly qualify.
     
  21. angus

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    But both ways right. Soler hasn't had a full year yet because of injuries, right?

    Maybe play Cain as the DH so he might actually last the whole year.
     
  22. joe-

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    STL and i think the dodgers are looking at him too
     
  23. JRodMK1

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    Fair point, but Pitcher forearm injuries >>> any injury to a Fielder, in terms of concern.
     
  24. joe-

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    soler's power potential drops a ton with this move too
     
  25. Andy Reocho

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    Yea because we're going to teach him to slap singles to right field
     
  26. joe-

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    not sure if sarcastic or not, but it's a hell of a lot easier to pull one out of wrigley than it is in kauffman
     
  27. Andy Reocho

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    straight sarcasm
     
  28. TimJimothy

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    If teams aren't at least a little concerned about his durability going forward, they cray-cray. I would bet that most see him as a one year, $10M rental...not wanting to give him an extension.

    If I were a MLB GM, I wouldn't give up my top prospect(s) for a 1 yr / $10M bullpen arm.
     
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  29. TimJimothy

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    Take one of the better defensive OFers in the league out of the lineup and put him at a premium offensive position, when he's not an above average offensive threat?

    Would be a bold move, Cotton.

    If you want to try to keep Cain healthy, put him in RF, but he's no DH.
     
  30. JRodMK1

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    They don't have a DH on the Dodgers :awesomeface:
     
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  31. TimJimothy

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    Boo this man.
     
  32. angus

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    Total joke. Although the offense was much better when he was in the lineup.

    He's just going to miss minimum of a month every year.
     
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  33. JRodMK1

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    In all seriousness, I'd like to see us hold on to Cain. If we get to the ASB and we aren't going anywhere then you can trade him.
     
  34. coffee

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    I'd hesitate to call Soler a middle-of-the-order bat at this point.
     
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  35. TimJimothy

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    On the 2017-forward Royals he just might be.
     
  36. coffee

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  37. coffee

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    Sooooo did we just trade Wade Davis for a 4th outfielder?
     
  38. joe-

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    yep ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
  39. coffee

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    David Glass stopped Glassing us just long enough to win that 'ship* and now he's right back to David Glassing us.

    * still worth it
     
  40. TimJimothy

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    What were ya'll saying when the Myers/Shields trade went down?

    I realize that trade wasn't a 1-for-1. It involved some other pieces. Not sure if any of them panned out though.


    Sarcasm.
     
  41. angus

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  42. coffee

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    We said, they better win a World Series with the return from Myers and Odorizzi.

    We were all 100% correct.
     
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  43. TimJimothy

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    Which is par for the course. Errthang on a message board is AT LEAST 100% correct.
     
  44. Buster Mahomes

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    Hipster Joe really dislikes Jorge Soler.
     
  45. joe-

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    I don't dislike him. I just don't think he fits the royals whatsoever
     
  46. TimJimothy

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    He doesn't fit the 2014-2015 Royals, but 2016 forward? Prolly.
     
  47. DirtBall

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    Just traded Jarrod to Mariners for Nate Karns. Don't know anything about Karns. Will miss Dys.
     
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  48. joe-

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    Decent young pitcher who was hurt most of last year
     
  49. coffee

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    Sounds promising.
     
  50. angus

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