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  1. laxjoe

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    #San Diego Padres

    Been talking to myself for years in the MLB thread until this season, so I figured it was time to start a thread where I can...talk to myself all offseason
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  3. Saul Shabazz

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    Tony fuckin G, man

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  4. blind dog

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    americas team
     
  6. SD_Irish

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    I'm here for this.
     
  7. ohbluefan

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    Although I’m not as big of a Pads fan as some in here I’ve watched many of games at the Murph with my pops..

    Getting Ricky Henderson to wave at us as kids was probably the highlight!!!
     
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    I like watching the future Padres, but mainly seems like the traded Padres right now. Except for Lamet saw him strikeout 13 or 14 one day here
     
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    well so far this offeseason, we've had a guy stabbed leaving a strip club and one of our top prospects arrested on felony marijuana possession charges...
     
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    That’s a good amount of weed, but I mean, who cares
     
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    I drove by the strip club yesterday that Tommy Pham was stabbed outside of two weekends ago.
     
  12. SD_Irish

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    Why Georgia, why?
     
  13. Bruce Bowen

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    I played for the Padres in the minors. AMA
    my little league had majors and minors : 3
     
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    One of the few moves this year that just didn’t work out
     
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    Reading about Moreland reminded me that there’s a good chance NL goes back to no DH next year. I was on the fence about the move initially, but quickly realized the errors of my previous ways. I don’t need to see pitchers hit any more.
     
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    Who was it in 98? Caminiti and Hoffman?
     
  20. laxjoe

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    Got one of two. I was surprised at first who the second was
    hoffman and Greg Vaughan
     
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    If Gore can come up and play next year...watch the fuck out
     
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    All he would need to be is the #5 starter which...:cmon:
     
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    Must be nice to have that kind of cash.
     
  26. laxjoe

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    We have owners who really are happy to pay now and a GM who spent years forcibly restraining himself to stockpile assets. I hope we can make it worth it at least once in my lifetime.
     
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    It's nice to see ownership really going for it. Snell and Darvish are fantastic signings. Let's shoot our shot.
     
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    Lifelong Padres fan here

    Can't wait
     
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    I don’t know is anyone else listened to Jerry on the radio back in the day. He’s the voice that I fell in love with baseball to. Used to throw on the game on the radio falling asleep. Loved that guy (and he lived an incredible life to boot)
     
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    Pretty cool that he’s coming home
     
  34. DuffandMuff

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    Hope I get a chance to actually see this team in person this year.
     
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    I hope there’s nothing like the madden curse for baseball
     
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    My Dad said there was something in the local paper that they’re not having fans as of now. We’re planning on going to SD this summer and wanted to catch a game.
     
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    Sounds like we can expect fans at some point this season, but no idea when. One of the great crimes of the 60 game fanless season was that fans didn’t get to be there for any of the great moments last year. Petco would have LITERALLY EXPLODED with joy when hoz hit the 4th slam in 4 games. Or the Grisham bomb against kershaw. Or any number of hundreds of moments.
     
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    I hope so, we had such a blast going 2 years ago and to see all the Gwynn tributes was pretty awesome. We’re planning on being in SD over the 4th so hopefully they’re letting fans in by then :fingerscrossed:
     
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    Padres 2021 prospect rankings: Keith Law on San Diego’s top 20
    Four big trades for starting pitchers and multiple promotions have put a dent in this system, but it’s still heavy with impact guys up top, and there remains quite a bit of outfield depth and power arms. What’s missing now is the parade of catching and middle infield prospects they had just a year or two ago, although with Fernando Tatis Jr., CJ Abrams, and Luis Campusano, general manager A.J. Preller clearly thought he could trade from strength.

    To be eligible for these rankings, a player must still be eligible for the Rookie of the Year award in 2021, which means they may not have more than 130 at-bats, 50 innings pitched or 45 days on an active roster heading into this season.

    1. MacKenzie Gore, LHP (Top 100 rank: No. 2)

    From the Top 100: Gore was the top pitching prospect in the game last winter and spent the summer and fall at the Padres’ alternate site, so he retains his rookie eligibility into 2021. Gore has everything you’d want in a potential No. 1 starter, with four above-average pitches that can all show plus, tremendous athleticism, and deception from the extreme high leg kick in his delivery. He’s regularly up to 97, with a big-breaking power curveball, a plus changeup with deception and good fading action, and an upper-80s slider he added after getting into pro ball and that’s become another swing-and-miss weapon for him. His delivery is difficult to repeat, but he’s such a good athlete that he’s able to do so, even with a leg kick that would knock most pitchers over. The Padres might have used Gore down the stretch last year, cycling through a number of starters for their fifth spot before trading for the now-injured Mike Clevinger, but Gore had some timing issues in his delivery at the alternate site, affecting his command enough that the team felt it was better to let him work it out before bringing him up. Stuff this good, with the performance Gore showed in 2019, doesn’t come along very often. If he stays healthy he’ll be one of the best left-handed starters in baseball within a few years.

    2. CJ Abrams, SS (Top 100 rank: No. 8)

    From the Top 100: Abrams, the sixth overall pick in the 2019 draft out of a Georgia high school, rose significantly in the industry’s eyes after his strong pro debut that year, and reports from this past summer and fall have been even more glowing because he’s showing more power than expected at this young age. Abrams is an 80 runner with great bat speed and a direct, contact-oriented swing, but as he’s gotten stronger he’s now driving the ball with more authority and showing bigger exit velocities as a result. While the presence of Tatis might lead to a position change, Abrams is a no-doubt shortstop with a quick release and good actions; he could play center, or he could be a Gold Glove-caliber defender at second. He’s a star at any position, and if the Padres ever do have to move Tatis because he outgrows shortstop, they have a replacement on the way.

    3. Luis Campusano, C (Top 100 rank: No. 38)

    From the Top 100: Campusano has come on so quickly as a prospect on both sides of the ball that the Padres have been willing to trade away most of their other catchers — Austin Hedges, Francisco Mejía, Blake Hunt and Luis Torrens have all left the organization in deals in the last six months — to clear the way for him to be their catcher of the future. He has great bat control, rarely striking out, and as he’s gotten stronger he’s been making harder contact and driving the ball more in the air; his one ball in play in his brief major-league call-up was a flyball hit at 101.1 mph. He has also improved substantially as a catcher since signing, with a plus arm and at least average receiving skills. The Padres are right to bet on him; a catcher with this kind of bat is extremely valuable. (He is currently facing felony charges in Georgia for marijuana possession, under an archaic law that will likely fall to the tide of decriminalization, so there is some chance he’ll miss part of the 2021 season.)

    4. Robert Hassell, OF (Top 100 rank: No. 60)

    From the Top 100: Hassell was the first high school player off the board in the 2020 draft, going eighth to the Padres, who loved his swing and think he’s got a chance to stay in center for the long haul. The swing is a classic left-hander’s, and Hassell has great bat speed and good loft in his finish for line-drive power, probably more doubles with 15-20 homers at his peak. He showed impressive plate discipline over the summer at the Padres’ alternate site, facing many big-league or other hard-throwing pitchers who were a huge step above what he’d faced in high school. He’s a solid-average runner with a plus arm, but his reads in center have been good enough that he’ll play there for at least the short term.

    5. Ryan Weathers, LHP (Top 100 rank: No. 77)

    From the Top 100: When the Padres took Weathers with the seventh overall pick in 2018, it was a function of his polish as a starter rather than the projection you’d associate with a high school arm or a typical Padres draft pick, and in 2019 his fastball had backed up so it was barely major-league average. In 2020, however, his stuff took a big jump forward, and he was working at 95-97 over the summer, holding that into his major-league debut in the playoff series (another one of the Mark Kiger All-Stars) against the Dodgers. Weathers, the son of longtime big leaguer David, has four pitches, with his changeup his best secondary offering, and his slider improved as his arm has sped up. He’s always been a strike-thrower who projected to get to above-average or better command. Weathers does have his dad’s physique and will have to work on his conditioning as he gets older. I don’t know if Weathers will really pitch at 95-plus as a starter going forward, but even if he’s 92-95 with the improved slider and the same command/control, that’s at least a mid-rotation starter.

    6. Tucupita Marcano, SS/2B

    Marcano has started to get stronger, which was his main weakness in 2019, as he’s a high-contact hitter with a short, flat swing and needed to make harder contact to boost his batting average. He’s a capable infielder at all three skill positions, probably best defensively at second base but more than just an emergency fill-in at shortstop. He’s a 55 runner but so far hasn’t turned that into success as a base stealer. As is, he should be a solid-average regular who posts a strong average/OBP combination but does so with grade-40 power, but he also seems like a candidate for a tweak to his swing to try to get him to hit the ball more in the air for more doubles and triples.

    7. Reggie Lawson, RHP

    Lawson’s 2019 season ended early with an elbow injury, and a PRP injection didn’t solve the problem, so he underwent Tommy John surgery last May and will probably not return to a mound until mid-2021. He’d made a lot of progress before the injury thanks in large part to work the Padres did to give him a repeatable delivery, working in the mid-90s with a plus changeup and a curveball that’s at least above-average when he finishes it out front. It’s a No. 2 starter package between the stuff, delivery, and his ridiculous athleticism, with reports that he’s on track in his rehab.

    8. Justin Lange, RHP

    Lange was the Padres’ second pick in 2020, 34th overall, the culmination of a year that saw him add about 50 pounds and about 8 mph, getting his fastball up to 100 mph in the spring before the shutdown. He’s an outstanding athlete, the kind of prospect Preller has long favored, but still raw as a pitcher, with a cutter/slider and changeup that are both works in progress, although the first pitch should end up at least consistently average given his arm speed. The sky is the limit when it comes to his ceiling, but he carries all of the usual risks of an 18-year-old who hits triple digits, from injury to non-development of command or breaking stuff.

    9. Anderson Espinoza, RHP

    After three lost years to injuries, notably two Tommy John surgeries, Espinoza says he finally feels completely healthy and was up to 98-99 at the end of spring training with his old changeup, although his breaking ball hasn’t come all the way back yet. Espinoza hasn’t thrown a pitch in an actual game since August 2016, which might be some sort of record if he reaches the majors after this long a layoff, but perhaps he’s a miracle of modern medicine — and with at least the two plus pitches, and the arm speed to at least have a serviceable slider, he could still, after all that, be an above-average starter.

    10. Mason Thompson, RHP

    Thompson is back … again … no, again, again. Thompson had Tommy John surgery before his senior year of high school, threw one inning that spring of 2016, signed with the Padres, and then looked like an easy first-round talent when he threw that fall. He hurt his shoulder in 2017 and was hurt on and off the next two years, part of why his stuff was never consistent, and when he started to look better in 2019, he took a comebacker off his leg and missed most of the year. He threw in instructs this fall, however, and was touching 98 with a power slider once again, although he didn’t really show the changeup that had such promise back in 2016. Maybe he’s a reliever in the end, but I’d start him one more time given his size and chance for three 55-or-better pitches.

    11. Tirso Ornelas, OF

    Ornelas was off to a good start in the Mexican Winter League before breaking a bone in his left arm, which is a shame as he had struggled in 2019 after a wrist injury sapped some of his strength at the end of the previous season. I’ve always liked Ornelas’ swing, which is well-suited to producing hard contact and power, and his approach at the plate, which would give him league-average OBP potential as long as he hits, but the last two years have been lost to injury, the pandemic and maybe just a too-aggressive promotion to High A when he was 19. The Padres didn’t put him on their 40-man in November, but he went unselected in the Rule 5 draft. If he’s recovered this year and performs in Double A, that will change, as he has everyday upside in a corner.

    12. Eguy Rosario, 3B

    Rosario has hit well for his age just about everywhere he’s played, including a strong showing this winter in Venezuela, with solid contact rates and doubles power. He’s small, listed at 5-foot-9, but has filled out beyond his listed 150 pounds, so there’s probably 30-35 doubles in here, although he may top out in the 10-15 homer range in a best-case scenario. He has primarily played third, but the Padres have moved him all over the infield for versatility, and if the power doesn’t really develop he’s going to have to move to second to be a regular — but he does have a chance for a 55-or-better hit tool.

    13. Joshua Mears, OF

    Mears was their second-round pick in 2019, a true “pop-up” prospect who had scouts racing to Seattle to see him that spring thanks to his eye-popping home runs. He has explosive bat speed and posts elite exit velocities, topping out at 116 at the alternate site last year, and showed real polish facing pitchers several years his senior, although we still have to see him do it in games. Before 2020, the main concern was his propensity to swing and miss and lack of experience against better arms, so while there’s optimism on that front, he still has to prove it, especially since his value and ceiling as a corner outfielder are almost entirely a function of his bat.

    14. Jorge Oña, OF

    Oña’s major-league debut featured his first home run, and seven strikeouts in the other 14 plate appearances he had for the Padres. He hadn’t produced much at all in his first two years in pro ball, then got off to a huge start in Double A in 2019 before a shoulder injury that required surgery ended his season. He has big leverage in his swing, although he’s probably more power than hit, and is limited to an outfield corner.

    15. Brayan Medina, RHP

    The Padres gave Medina $700,000 in July 2019, so the Venezuelan right-hander hasn’t pitched in a pro game yet. He can work in the mid-90s with a little life up in the zone, while his breaking ball is still in its infancy (as is he, as he will pitch at 18 all of this season). His three-quarter delivery is pretty good, but there is some head violence at release that could affect future command. He could be anything from a mid-rotation starter to a one-pitch guy who doesn’t get out of Double A.

    16. Reiss Knehr, RHP

    Knehr was the Padres’ 20th-round pick in 2018, a high school shortstop who converted to the mound at Fordham and ended up tied for second all time in strikeouts in Rams history (with Brett Kennedy, who pitched for the Padres in 2018). Knehr sits 92-93 and touches 95, with a plus changeup and high-spin slider, enough to develop him as a starter, but his control and command are still below average, and his no-wind-up delivery doesn’t help him develop any sort of tempo. He might have to go to the bullpen, but I’d at least exhaust the starter angle first.

    17. Esteury Ruiz, 2B

    Ruiz has bat speed and the strength for hard contact, but he’s been held back by poor swing decisions, putting the ball in play but often on pitches he’d be better off taking. He’s a plus runner but is mostly limited to second base, with some reps in left field in 2019, so he has to hit to profile. He’s around a 40 hit tool now, but with the pure skill to be at least a 50 if he had a better plan at the plate, and that in turn would lead to average power as well.

    18. Efraín Contreras, RHP

    Contreras is 5-10, but the Mexican right-hander throws strikes with a 55 fastball/curveball combination, standing out in instructs last year but, unfortunately, hurting his elbow in the process, leading to November Tommy John surgery that will keep him out until 2022.

    19. Mason Feole, LHP

    Feole was a starter at UConn, but he’s a fastball/slider guy with a rough delivery and below-average control, so he’s going to end up in the bullpen, but he’ll be 95-97 there and the slider could be plus.

    20. Nerwilian Cedeño, IF

    Cedeño will turn 19 in mid-March, and the Venezuelan infielder, who has played short, second and third already, has potential on both sides of the plate as a switch-hitter with an advanced feel for the strike zone. He has only played a summer in the DSL, but there’s a potential 55-or-better hit tool here.

    Others of note
    Lefty Jagger Haynes, their fifth-rounder in 2020, is very projectable and has a loose, easy delivery, hitting 94 in high school even though he didn’t turn 18 until three months after the draft. … Catcher Brandon Valenzuela is a solid defender behind the plate and a switch-hitter who has quick hands but lacks consistency in his swing path, getting too rotational at times when he has the bat speed to hit more line drives. … Their 2020-21 international class was headlined by Venezuelan outfielder Samuel Zavala, a lean and lanky left-handed hitter with the potential for 60-plus power and what looks like a good approach for his age. … The Padres have a bunch of right-handed relief prospects who could make an impact this year, including Steve Wilson (dominant in the Dominican Winter League), Mason Fox (with a 3000-rpm curveball), Lake Bachar and Henry Henry.

    2021 impact
    The Padres’ shopping spree means they don’t need MacKenzie Gore in the rotation in April, but he’s first in line when they have a need for a starter. Campusano isn’t far off and could be their primary catcher by Labor Day.

    Sleeper
    Last year’s was Hudson Head, traded to Pittsburgh this winter and on the Just Missed list for the primary Top 100. They have many pitchers on the come, but several of them are out with Tommy John surgery or just coming back from it, so for this year’s sleeper prospect I’ll go with Mears.
     
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    might be moving to san diego this year

    since you guys have my boy yu it’ll be easy to root for the pads
     
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    A revitalized Paddack would be very very nice. Amazing he’s likely #4 starter after being the unquestioned opening day guy last season.