Saudis admit Khashoggi Killed

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  1. Frank Martin

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    You really just have to feel awful for the majority of the people that live in that part of the world.
     
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  2. TrustyPatches

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    Catching up on this thread and you just really have to love it when people tell you that you didn’t give a fuck when the people “representing your side” were doing foul shit.

    The left has been represented in this country never. Not to any extent near what the right has and any left leaning representation we’ve had has cowardly taken their checks and moved center/center right. Obama included. Anyone who aligns themselves with left leaning politics questioned and despised decisions Obama made every single day he was in office.

    Bernie Sanders was a thing for a reason
     
  3. Frank Martin

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    You realize the right could make this same argument? They’ve never actually gotten a president that could ban abortion and put Jesus back in schools.

    Just because Obama wasn’t perfect doesn’t mean he wasn’t our guy.
     
  4. TrustyPatches

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    No see the issue here is you’re acting like social issues = political identity and that’s where the right has won this war of ideas. They’ve convinced people like you that were on the brink of communism because gays are allowed to marry or transgendered people are allowed bathroom access. Meanwhile, everything else of importance wrt economy, healthcare, education and foreign policy etc etc etc has absolutely none of the lefts fingerprints on it. Even Obamacare is a GOP wet dream of a healthcare plan.
     
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  5. Illinihockey

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    I don't know about that. The largest expenditures every year in our economy goes to social programs (social security, medicare, healthcare). I could be wrong but I believe we spend more per pupil on education than all but a handful of countries.
     
  6. Frank Martin

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    Why would I vote for the democrats if the republicans have convinced me of this?

    Might want to take a break from politics if the republicans have you this upset you’re starting with a nonsensical premise that Obama didn’t represent us on the left.
     
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  8. Illinihockey

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    Discretionary spending is a small part of the entire budget. The entire budget is 3.8 trillion.
     
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  9. Prospector

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    Life is priceless, they say. Can't put a value on a human life, they say. Yes, yes can, they show....repeatedly
    This Donald Trump answer on Saudi Arabia and Jamal Khashoggi is a wow
    Analysis by Chris Cillizza, CNN Editor-at-large
    (CNN)Donald Trump's unconventional approach to, well, everything is a hallmark of his presidency. It's at least part of why he got elected two years ago. But even by his own unorthodox standards, his answer to a question Tuesday from the Wall Street Journal stands out.

    Here's the exchange regarding Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, commonly known as MBS, and the murder of Washington Post journalist Jamal Khashoggi:
    WSJ: Do you believe him? Do you believe the denials?
    Mr. Trump: I want to believe him. I really want to believe him. They've been a very good ally. They've been a tremendous investor in our military equipment and other things. They buy tremendous amounts of things from our country. It probably amounts to millions of jobs, you know, a million jobs. That's a lot of jobs. So I certainly want to believe him.
    That's amazing stuff. And not in a good way.
    Trump is making clear that he is going out of his way to believe MBS' claim that he had no idea about the attempt to lure Khashoggi, a prominent critic of the Saudi government, to the Saudi Consulate in Istanbul, where he was killed. Why? Because "they buy tremendous amounts of things from our country," according to Trump.
    So, to simplify: The President of the United States is saying that he "really want(s) to believe" the Saudi government's story that Khashoggi died accidentally after a fistfight within the consulate because he doesn't want our lucrative business relationship with the Arab country to change.
    Got that?
    The problem with all of that is simple: There are any number of elements of the story the Saudis are telling that have either changed or don't jibe with known facts. If Shitty AMC Show was accidental, why did the Saudi government refuse to say anything about it for weeks? Why do we still not know the whereabouts of Khashoggi's body? Why was a bone saw brought into the consulate, as one source told The New York Times? Why was a body double spotted wearing Khashoggi's clothes in the hours after the murder?
    And remember that Trump has from the start bent over backwards in hopes that the Saudi government can find an explanation that allows the US to maintain their mutually beneficial relationship.
    First, Trump said he took King Salman's word that he knew nothing of the events surrounding Khashoggi's death, and floated the idea it might have been "rogue killers" who somehow gained entry to the consulate (Trump never explained where he got that theory from -- or whether he had any reason to believe it was true).
    Then, late last week, he said he believed the Saudi government's "fistfight" explanation.
    Now comes this Wall Street Journal interview where Trump makes plain how badly he wants the Saudis to find an explanation that allows them to maintain their mutual financial interests.
    And, to be clear, this is not the first time where Trump has prioritized financial and/or geopolitical concerns over human rights. His public admiration for the likes of Chinese President Xi Jinping, North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan and Russian President Vladimir Putin -- all leaders who have questionable human rights records that Trump has either glossed over or ignored completely in meetings with them -- is well known.
    While each of those episodes drew media attention, none of them were as brutally calculating as what Trump told the Journal about Khashoggi. And that is saying something.
    This article has been updated.
     
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  10. Illinihockey

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    Lmao at Saudi Arabia single handedly creating one million jobs.
     
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    Goddamn we spend way too much on the military
     
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  13. Drew Swinney Esq

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    Well you see, he said he didn't do it though.
     
  14. Arkadin

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    And even if he did do it, there's this 859 trillion in arms deals that is very good, very very good
     
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    They also spend a lot of money at my properties. Many people are saying it's not a big deal.
     
  16. Arkadin

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    Have you seen how many wives the prince has? It's really something, very impressive
     
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    I hate it when I go to my local Clerk for a marriage license and a deadly interrogation breaks out, so annoying.
     
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    12 hours late, gibbons. Sad!
     
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  24. Bruce Wayne

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    Those guys thought they'd be getting in good with MBS by helping whack a journo, those they're gonna get whacked
     
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  25. CuckFinn

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    Saudis just picked 5 poor bastard scapegoats to slaughter. Kushner and Co. will continue to pretend they aren’t complicit in what will now be 6 deaths. And for good measure, let’s give them a nice big weapons arsenals as a gift for investing in our emolument violations.
     
  26. HuskerInMiami

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    Can you go into more detail on this?
     
  27. The Banks

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    Are you a shitpitter we missed or just don’t pay attention?
     
  28. dblplay1212

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    To be fair, one can "pay attention" and not be up to date on every single subject in the world, such as US and Saudi arms deals.
     
  29. Aaron Hernandez

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    Private board Husker venturing into the mainboard: “Gee, this topic sounds interesting could someone elaborate on it for me.”

    TMB: “Fuck you, you uninformed fuck.”
     
  30. Duck70

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    Before Khashoggi was killed, the Kush was in deep financial trouble with some of his real estate ventures, he was then subsequently bailed out by middle east businessmen when Trump became POTUS. Over this same time period, Jared has grown close with MBS and many people think that The Kingdom has exploited Kushner's financial liability to gain influence.

    Kush has been reluctant to say that MBS or any higher up's played a roll in this killing, presumably due to his financial ties to the Middle East. State Department says MBS ok'ed it, Trump Admin doesnt.

    There have also been analysts speculating that Kush/Trump might have known about the Khashoggi killing before it happened and ok'ed it. He was an American Journalist after all and it was very ballsy by the Saudi's to do this.
     
  31. Whammy Business

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    This seems unnecessary.
     
  32. Tony Ray Bans

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    Man and you just know that during the briefing for that they were told it was a super important mission that would put them on the fast track to promotion in Saudi intelligence. Whats the saudi death penalty like?
     
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  33. The Banks

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    About 15 people, torture, dismemberment, and then dissolved in acid.
     
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    Thank god they are the good guys ya know?
     
  35. BellottiBold

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    Just one of those average spur of the moment embassy killings
     
  36. bwi2

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    Gotta think those five are going to spend the next few decades in the Saudi luxury resort hotel quasi-prison for rich dudes who didn’t back MBS strongly enough while their appeals are “considered.”
     
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  37. CuckFinn

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    Basically MBS bangs Ivanka in front of Kushner while he cries. MBS then commands him to smile, and asks him to pet his pet Tiger Bengali, which he does begrudgingly. MBS gives Kushner and Ivanka each a ruby, a diamond, and a Kleenex. Ivanka gets dressed while Kushner wipes the baby Princes off her face. They both go on their way, being careful not to spook Bengali. MBS then shoots a servant boy named Ahmad out of boredom while blasting a Lil Peep song, screaming “Gucci Gang” to a pair of passing camels. All of this happens on the second Tuesday every other month.
     
  38. Fusiontegra

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    Gotta be honest, sounds like a good time, minus the servant killing.
     
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  39. HuskerInMiami

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    I try to avoid any thread that has to do with politics. :idk:
     
  40. Where Eagles Dare

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    The US government knows MBS planned the murder of a legal US resident journalist.

    Kushner was very involved in this situation and many reports he gave the green light.

    We recently sold billions of dollars worth of weapons to them and stationed our military there bc Trump loves dictators

    Edit: Oh they also rent floors of Trump's hotels and never stay in them and buy a fuck load of thier shitty condos
     
  41. BWC

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    You should dig deeper in asking yourself why that might be
     
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    Is that because you’re a shitpitter or do you avoid it because you’re an uninformed little bitch, you stupid little shit.
     
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    :siren: The Dissident is now out on Prime, Apple TV, Vudu, and some other shit (not Netflix and Hulu) :siren:
     
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    Ctrl f Kushner

    *sigh*
     
  47. 40wwttamgib

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    would be great if the saudis did the same thing to kushner
     
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