School Shooting in Parkland Florida

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  1. kslim

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    don goofed
     
  2. Crepeswithasmile

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    I saw one this morning that said "I'll control my guns, you control your kids" with an AR under it.
     
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  3. Prospector

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    Kansas Man Caught Having Sex With Car
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    By Dave BartosiakMay 4, 2018
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    My father was a musician and in between sets one of his favorite jokes was: “To the owner of a 65 Mustang with Zebra print seat covers, there’s a jackass mounting your back seat.” It’s funny but I never thought I’d actually hear about it happening in real life. You read that title correctly my friends, a Kansas man was caught trying to…have sex with a car.

    According to The Newton Kansan, a 24-year-old man was naked from the waist down, trying to put his “banana in the tailpipe” (if you know what I mean). When police from the Newton Police Department arrived at the scene, they commanded the man to stop but he wouldn’t. Lt. Scott Powell of the Newton PD said, "They were trying to get him to stop and come out...but he was oblivious they were even there.” Police ended up tasing him to get him to stop.

    I’m sure we’ve all lusted after a car, maybe a few of us have even commented on how nice the rear end of a vehicle looks (mmmm LaFerrari) but it would take some major psychedelics to push me to that. That may have been the case here. Lt. Powell added, “He was high on some sort of drug.”

    The man, police say, was very drunk. He rang up a whopping 0.35 blood alcohol level on the field-administered breathalyzer test. The legal limit for driving under the influence is 0.08 which for average people is about three drinks in a one-hour period. At more than four times the legal limit police couldn’t take him jail. Instead, they brought him to the nearest hospital for medical treatment instead.

    Police say the man will likely be charged with misdemeanors on suspicion of lewd and lascivious behavior. No word on who owned the car being violated.
     
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  4. Hoss Bonaventure

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  5. Prospector

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  6. bertwing

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    Except he is though
     
  7. Prospector

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    nope nope nope, his car is a female
     
  8. Hoss Bonaventure

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    Exactly.
     
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  9. 2

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    I applaud the proactive efforts in closure by Denver area school districts.
     
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  10. Daniel Ocean

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  12. blotter

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    I'm guessing we have some conspiracy types flipping out at the moment in Colorado

    there is a bill going through the state legislature that would allow police to take guns from someone deemed a threat to themselves or another by a judge

    a few dozen counties have designated themselves a 2nd amendment sanctuary county, pledging not to enforce the law if it passes. My county sheriff said he'd go to jail before enforcing it
     
  13. Jack Parkman

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    I agree with the law completely

    But enforcing it will get messy, especially from these militia freaks
     
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  14. bro

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    enforcement of laws that restrict people's rights but save laws are, by nature, going to be messy. But they are necessary
     
  15. Beeds07

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    See what you need is a thousand black men open carrying through the county. You'd be amazed how quickly he changes his mind.
     
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  16. Daniel Ocean

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    IIRC this is what happened when the black panther party when they started carrying.
     
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  19. CUtigers86

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    I mean, they could...
     
  20. Randy Bobandi

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    Yes. That’s the birthplace of the gun control movement.
     
  21. southlick

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  22. Daniel Ocean

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    What in the actual fuck? Is this Seinfeld?
     
  23. Llama

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    Good fuck that coward
     
  24. Dirt Dirt McGirt

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    lol let's attack every angle of this problem EXCEPT the one that will actually fix it
     
  25. kslim

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    fuck man thats horrible, im sure the guy feels like shit as it is
     
  26. ShuPoor

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    Charging this guy is fucking stupid
     
  27. Redav

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    christ
     
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    Charging him seems like a bit much. Fired from that job and shamed for not doing more? Sure. Charged with a crime? Ehhhhh.
     
  29. Truman

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    If youre a cop and see an armed robbery/crime take place and dont try to stop it because fear of getting shot took over , can you get charged for that?
     
  30. ShuPoor

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    Not shooting armed people because you say you're scared =criminal offense
    Shooting unarmed people because you say you're scared= you're good to go

    This is smart and good
     
  31. Boo MFer!

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    How is this even possible?
     
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  32. 941Gator

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    Interesting. Not sure if he can be considered having control over the kid's (or the situation). fwiw child neglect in Florida is:


    1. Defendant:

    [willfully] [by culpable negligence] failed or omitted to provide (victim) with the care, supervision, and services necessary to maintain (victim’s) physical or mental health.

    or

    failed to make a reasonable effort to protect (victim) from abuse, neglect, or exploitation by another person.

    2. In so doing, (defendant) caused [great bodily harm] [permanent disability] [permanent disfigurement] to (victim).

    3. (Defendant) was a caregiver for (victim).

    4. (Victim) was under the age of 18 years.
     
  33. 941Gator

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    key word caregiver from above....... was he responsible for their welfare?


    Definition. Give in all cases.

    Caregiver” means a parent, adult household member, or other person responsible for a child’s welfare.

    Definition. Give if applicable.

    I will now define what is meant by the term “culpable negligence”: Each of us has a duty to act reasonably toward others. If there is a violation of that duty, without any conscious intention to harm, that violation is negligence. But culpable negligence is more than a failure to use ordinary care for others. For negligence to be called culpable negligence, it must be gross and flagrant. The negligence must be committed with an utter disregard for the safety of others. Culpable negligence is consciously doing an act or following a course of conduct that the defendant must have known, or reasonably should have known, was likely to cause death or great bodily harm.
     
  34. Duck2013

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    Charging him is fucking stupid. A very good friend of mine is police officer and he has told me countless stories where he / they are continuously fearful of being out gunned in certain situations and it completely changes their approach when they are faced with that reality.

    This guy at parkland should have done more, but to say he willfully committed a crime here is a bridge too fucking far.
     
  35. Jack Parkman

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    Hope they go after Israel next if this is the route they are going to take
     
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  36. 941Gator

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    well I guess the charge could just be:

    1. Defendant failed to make a reasonable effort to protect (victim) from abuse, neglect, or exploitation by another person.

    2. In so doing, (defendant) caused [great bodily harm] [permanent disability] [permanent disfigurement] to (victim).

    3. (Defendant) was a caregiver for (victim).

    4. (Victim) was under the age of 18 years.



    but i'm still stuck on "caregiver."
     
  37. harvey birdman

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    Seems like a massive overreach. Do cops now have an affirmative duty to place their self in harms way? Does this extend to a whole department?
     
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  38. ~ taylor ~

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    Is it reasonable to get in a firefight in a school when seriously outgunned?
     
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  39. 941Gator

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    That’s a good point as well. I’m assuming he called for backup.
     
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  40. Dex

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    ill say this as a resident of parkland during the shooting - the heat was originally on sheriff israel (broward county sheriff) who then threw this officer under the bus once the film was released. He's become the scapegoat for the entire incident.

    On the other hand, I have several friends who are local cops and fbi agents that all responded to the school -- universally agree the police officer should have entered the building.
     
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  41. Truman

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    Of course he should have. It was his job. But the fact that he didnt makes him potentially a criminal?
     
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  42. Doc Louis

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    This guy gets it. Someone arm the teachers already!!
     
  43. Doc Louis

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    Well.... Yeah not doing good job could make him liable?
     
  44. HoosDaMan

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    Yeah, sounds like a fucking stupid idea too.
     
  45. Bill the Butcher

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    I forget, were they trained to wait for more officers before making entry? I feel like that came out about the time Israel started mouthing off.
     
  46. Redav

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    I look forward to more people being prosecuted for not doing their job well enough.
     
  47. Lawnole23

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    Just throwing out ideas but if all the teachers and students were armed they could have shot the police officer for retreating like the the Russians in WW2. No need to charge him with a crime. Good 'ole street justice.
     
  48. Swamp_Monkey

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    I am, too. Under Fla. Stat. s.39.01 (which I think provides a reasonable definition of "caregiver" for purposes of the criminal child neglect statute), a "caregiver" is defined as:

    "Other person responsible for a child's welfare" is defined as:

    (emphasis mine)

    The ONLY part that might apply if you squint really hard is "an employee of any school." I'm not sure that applies to a school resource officer employed by the Broward Sheriff.

    Nevertheless, let's take the statutory definitions out of it. Had the school shooting not happened, and your child attended school at MSD, would you consider the school resource officer to be a "caregiver" for your child? I'm thinking no reasonable person would. Teachers while your child is in their classes? Sure - they have physical custody and supervisory roles, with both the duty and responsibility to act in loco parentis. The school resource officer generally doesn't have custody of any particular child or group of children (never mind all 3,000 that went to MSD), and outside of the occasional law enforcement intervention has no say in the day-to-day care of the students at the school.
     
  49. Jack Parkman

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    I wasn't paying attention to what thread I had landed on, and thought, "Damn, he hasn't aged well. Serves him right for killing his pregnant wife though."