Pretty much agree with this- they have to be pit fighters... Barristan could get got in the right enviornment (which it was)...but the unsullied would never fight like that.
- the Unsullied fought in tight quarters with a spear, they're not meant for that - Selmy is in his 60s what happened last night isn't crazy, it's realistic. this is like those stupid threads about Tyson or Silva where people act like you couldn't bumrush them with sheer numbers and win. the Unsullied are just men and they're not trained for CQC. just because the Fat Man can't break their aura of invincibility doesn't mean it actually exists. if anything they probably should have shown the Unsullied hitting the walls with their spears to really show how they were in a bad situation for their fighting style. you guys read this stuff all the time and buy it but this somehow breaks down the wall? Dayne, Whent, and Hightower vs 7 good but not great fighters and they lose(and you know goddamn well nobody in that 7 can take Dayne with Dawn) and we just say "OK" but 65 year old Selmy kills 14 but not 15 guys and it's so crazy and unbelievable? e: shit, even talking about Dayne makes his death way, way more unbelievable and ridiculous than Selmy. he's the greatest fighter in the history of Westeros with a Valyrian steel sword and some swamp midget and Ned fucking Stark take him down in his prime? gtfo.
If they were pit fighters, wouldn't Dany be even more against the fighting pits because they killed Selmy?
fair enough. Arthur Dayne still beats swamp midget and Ned Stark with a wooden sword. point is, the books sell you the same obtuse shit the show does and you buy one but not the other because of book snobbery. stop it. there's not a man alive worthy of killing Selmy with the way he's painted in the books but you know damn well George isn't sending him off to retire by the end of ADOS. great heroes often die tragic deaths. Achilles was shot in the fucking heel with an arrow by an effeminate pretty boy for fuck's sake.
Howland Reed aka Victarion Greyjoy aka LBR aka Roose Bolton aka Dracula aka time traveling werewolf was just too much, unfortunately. What you don't know is Dayne killed Reed a dozen times but due to Reed being Wolverine and regenerating his wounds Dayne eventually tired and was killed. :\
They're trained in the phalanx formation. They're similar to the Greek Hoplites. They're trained in a city. They do not ride horses. What makes you think they're not trained in close quarters? They even have short spears as their main weapon. That doesn't make sense. The whole point of them is that they're highly disciplined and highly trained. Flailing around away from each other isn't what they would be doing.
I don't find their death unbelievable. Or Selmy's. I mainly just feel sad for a few scenes we've lost. And he seemed like he was a pretty big fan. Sucks for that reason as well.
Unless Jon = L+AD. Dayne let Ned kill him as part of an agreement to raise his son as Stark's bastard since Lyanna is dying/dead and Dayne serves a dead king and has no interest in serving Robert since he allowed Shitty AMC Show of his friend Rhaegar's wife and children. /runonsentence It is weird the Dayne's would name an heir to Starfall after a guy that killed Arthur Dayne and returned Dawn. We really need to get Howland Reed making an appearance so all these crazy fucking theories stop.
You guys should check out legitimate retard user JY laying out the R + L = J theory in the show thread.
How are you feeling after watching the end of that episode BR? fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck all of that fuck the show writers
I haven't watched yet, but my hope is that we still get something in the books to validate, "Even now I could cut through the five of you like carving a cake." He is not what he once was- perhaps the equal of any swordsman in memory, AND he was certainly still very confident in his abilities. Kingslayer now the best even without his pussy hand.
it's really disappointing that the show still has Jaime all punch drunk in love with Cersei whoring ass.
they're not trained to fight in enclosed spaces and their weapons are over 8 feet tall while the area they fought in looked like it was maybe 10 feet across. they were surrounded both in front and behind with almost no mobility from side to side which is exactly how the phalanx failed historically. the Sons lured them into a trap designed to take away their main strength as a unit and they routed them. the whole point to breaking a phalanx is that chaos ensues and they don't know how to handle it properly.
The show has made the Unsullied a bunch of nutless softies. They're trained with short-swords in the books, not just spears, but not one of them carries one in the show. Book Unsullied lose the spears with the quickness and massacre that ambush.
Unsullied battle tactics are based on the legions of the old Ghiscari Empire, involving large groups of them fighting in lock-step phalanxes using spear and shield, though they are also trained to use shortswords for close-quarters combat. Slave-eunuchs who have been trained from birth to fight, the Unsullied are renowned for their utter discipline on the battlefield, both in their usage of incredibly coordinated large unit phalanx formations, and because they will never break in the face of overwhelming odds, even to the point of death.
I just wish I could see Arianne and those big beautiful titties. It's a shame they replaced with with Ellaria And Ellaria doesn't look as good with short hair.
Yeah was really looking forward to the sand snakes- they kind of sucked... Doran was still pretty bad ass in the earlier episode
The Sand Snakes scene seemed like it belonged in the first 5 minutes of a crappy swords and sandals movie like the last Hercules or the Mummy 6. Just seemed so forced. Even the 'let me slowly walk as I provide some exposition even though there is nowhere for me to really walk to and I'm telling a story everyone here already knows' was soooo forced. I feel like it was 'let your kid write a scene day'. It really stuck out because the show almost never makes dialogue that painful and obvious
Could be the worst scene in the history of the series (up there with CoTF fireballs). I know the captain let Jaime off in Dorne but he did go straight to them to give them the heads up. Lets just throw a spear through his head for dramatic effect. Also, why would anyone follow Oberyn's bitch into war? Who the hell does she think she is to defy Doran? The way she speaks makes it seem like her opinion should actually count for something (it shouldn't). "You must choose. Doran's way and peace, or my way and war". Get fucked you dumb cunt. Oberyn was awesome but if he wasn't so worried about racking up style points he would still be alive. Hopefully Doran himself gets more screen time in the near future, I like the actor who plays him. I sense a possible Bronn vs. Black Areo Hotah showdown at some point. The lack of an actress who embodies Arriane's description from the books is also deeply upsetting. I was hoping the casting department would unearth some previously unknown actress who could give prime Salma Hayek a run for her money. I'll update this post if more Dorne related hot takes come to mind.
i really just don't like Dorne. My guess is that the show running queers know that Dorne aligns with Aegon, but since Aegon isn't in the show- they have a bunch of cunts lead them off to war. Change I would like to see: Bronn and Slayer fuck their way through Dorne with their penises.
A brunette slut with dark brown skin and those nipples that are so red they are almost brown... That's what you took from me, show ass holes
Could have made one of the sand snakes a smoke show at the least. Am I to believe Oberyn fathered a bunch of uggos? If Ellaria was as faithful to him as she was to Lucius Vorenus then odds are they aren't even his children anyways.
Martin must have written Rome too... "Ok, we have Julius Caesar in Greece fighting Pompeii, and Marc Antony in Rome being fucking awesome... The stage is set... Now let's turn for a few episodes (6,000 pages) to the struggle of a soldier's wife whilst her husband is thought to be dead at war, and other weird shit."
I'm leaning toward the logic that Martin is the most sadistic fuck of all...leaves we book lads hanging for years with the realistic possibility of choking out before finishing it...then sells his magnum opus to hbo...and well week by week we see how that's coming to fruition.....tune each week to see which additional characters are irrevelant....
Yeah I could have given a shit less about her on Rome, but Vorenus and Pullo were fucking awesome. Titus Pullo is still a top 3 television character of all time in my book.