Season 5 - The night is dark and full of Spoilers [book readers thread]

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  1. CUZ28

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    he'll probably just be forgotten like balon
     
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  2. lastsonofkrypton

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    a King in command of 200 ships, reaving & raping throughout westeros, nah fuck it more mereenese bullshit.
     
  3. BayouMafia

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    case in point from the show thread tonight:
    his sentiment is correct though
     
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  4. Xander Crews

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    I enjoyed watching Kevan Lannister smackdown Cersei.
     
  5. RoyalShocker

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    Reserving my rage over the changes to Jaime's story, because he and Bronn fucking their way through Dorne is an exciting prospect.
     
  6. Sir Phobos

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    wonder if any watchers will be able to put Jon's demise together soon. it's spelled out pretty loudly already since the show has proven that Starks don't get to be winners except kinda Arya. probably the last major book shocker the show is gonna toss out before putting everyone on equal ground with regards to spoilers.

    next week should be pretty important. think we get High Sparrow finally(Cersei's walk is gonna be like ep 10 at this rate), Sand Snakes(maybe?), inside the House of Black and White, and maybe block fetching. tons of character development.
     
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    sup
     
  8. Hoss Bonaventure

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    So the raven's message about Littlefinger's marriage proposal is pretty much a done deal now for Sansa now right? Also, I kind of take it that Jaime just get captured in Dorne by somebody else now or just ends up doing what ever after the Drone adventure that he would have done after LSH.
     
  9. allothersnsused

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    And Arya has to give up being a Stark and become "no one" to do so.
     
  10. RonBurgundy

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    Man I hope we still get LSH. I mean, isn't that all that's left for Brienne?
     
  11. Fancy

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    Gregor was on Qyburn's table in the severed head scene

    :ohgosh:
     
  12. Hoss Bonaventure

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    Yeah, but I doubt that LSH makes an appearance. Probably just gets captured by Thoros and them and put in the same scenario minus zombie Cat. They could just keep Beric alive and have him and Thoros fill in for the LSH story arch.
     
  13. allothersnsused

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    Good catch.
     
  14. Jesse Palmer

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    3 things that REALLY pissed me off:

    1. Why the fuck would Littlefinger take Sansa out in public? And to a bar of all places?!

    2. That Stannis proposal to Jon Snow was so limp. I can't believe HBO butchered that. They made it seem like some minuscule offer while giving Greyscale twerp & annoying wildling Gilly a whole lotta screen time and useless dialogue.

    3. "Everyone deserves a fair trial!" -Dany : 5 mins later : "Chop his head off w/o a trial!" - Dany

    Other shit is the inconsistencies popping up all over:

    • Dorne/Ellaria calling to hurt Myrcella after vividly stating last season that Dorne is not a place where children are harmed.

    • Did the Kingsguard knight, presumably Oakheart, sent w Myrcella disappear?

    • What did Arya do to earn entry to the house of black & white? Kill a pigeon? Threaten some alley kids?

    • LOL at the theatrical WOW factor they tried to make having that Dornish message re-boxed for Jaime to open.

    *** anyone else hope that Drogon was going to be Quaithe?
     
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  15. allothersnsused

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    I get that this is the book thread and this is the place for us to talk about inconsistencies, but at this point if you're expecting the show to mirror the book, you're going to have a bad time.

    It's just not doable, especially as we get into AFFC, which is primarily just characters wandering around thinking to themselves. It's just not doable on TV - especially when even the more in-depth storylines are given, at most, 15 minutes per show.

    I'm trying to disconnect myself from the books and enjoy the show as something completely separate. I would have been so pumped about Jamie/Bronn last night if I had not made myself a bookfag. Really trying to make myself stop comparing to the books at this point. What I am interested in is things that might pop up in the show that give away what is going to happen in future books. I think we're close to that now with both Arya and Sansa.
     
  16. Jesse Palmer

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    The inconsistencies I'm talking about are a product of HBO's and D&D's shitty work.

    It has nothing to do with the books. The show has gotten a lot of plot-holes & flaws recently - and that's looking at it from the show alone.
     
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  17. Verbal Kint

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    1 - Very few people know what Sansa even looks like. Or Littlefinger. Remember the guy that called Ned 'your Grace'? Most common folks have no clue who they are. Pod happened to be Sansa's husbands squire and Brienne obviously knew what she looked like.
    2 - IDK I thought it was in line with who Stannis is. Blunt and to the point. Do think they could've shown Jon wrestling with the decision a bit
    3 - the guy admitted to Shitty AMC Show. What trial would you have liked to see? Don't think they had seperate sentencing hearings back in the day
    Dorne: Guessing it wasn't Doran that sent the threat
    Arya: They were watching her and saw that she was tough.
     
  18. zeberdee

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    who was the guy Myrcella was walking with and obviously liked? wonder if they use Quentyn there or just create someone else. makes sense to give her a love interest, especially if they're going to play out the story with her siding with the Dornish.
     
  19. BayouMafia

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    Yeah but I did laugh when Sam says, "Did you know that the youngest Lord Commander ever was somebody Stark when he was 10 years old blah blah" and Gilly responds with "I know 'S'"
     
  20. Pawpride

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    They replaced Quentyn with Trystyn or something like that.
     
  21. Vito Corleone

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    I think Cersei's walk, Jon Snow dyng, Arya killing Meryn Trant(instead of a Swyft), and Daenarys saved by Drogon are the all extremely likely right now

    Can't really think of any other major plotlines that should go as planned. Sansa, Jamie, Brienne, and Tyrion's are in wtf mode now
     
  22. RoyalShocker

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    Dany is just so hilariously retarded... I really look forward to Clarke's fully clothed acting for the next six seasons in Mereen.
     
  23. London Humphreys

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    I feel like Jon Snow may not be injured/dead in the show at all. If he does, I can see them holding off until next season.
     
  24. zeberdee

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    oh right I forgot they were doing the Loras thing and just combining one brother into two.
     
  25. London Humphreys

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    Except neither Loras nor Garlan were total fucking bitches, like show Loras.
     
  26. Vito Corleone

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    if they dont put that in this season, i feel the season lacks a defining moment and lost out on an opportunity to make even more people read the books imo

    if they cut it out all together :fuckyocouch:
     
  27. London Humphreys

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    I wasn't a fan of it happening in the books. Never been a fan of zombies, and not a fan of Jon being deader than fried chicken. All things considered, I would be fine with bypassing that point.

    If he needs out of his vow, it can be because Jon Snow made the vow, not Jon Targaryen. Once he finds out he's Jon Targaryen, he can do what he wants.
     
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  28. RonBurgundy

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    My guess: Episode 9 they kill him, since that seems to be when big things happen every season.

    I, for one, think they are doing a job with their adaptation so far.

    Also ftr I bet the show version just makes him critically injured, not dead, and Mel does some voodoo shit to make him heal.
     
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  29. allothersnsused

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    Obviously everyone is speculating at this point but wouldn't Jon still be a bastard even if R+L=J?
     
  30. Vito Corleone

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    he would be Jon Blackfyre correct? or would he still be Jon Snow b/c the Targaryen's dont have a bastard name
     
  31. Celemo

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    I'm assuming Daenerys legitimizes him :idk:
     
  32. OHW

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    I'm sad about Jamie in Dorn because Jamie in the Riverlands are some of my favorite chapters. :feelsbadman:
     
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  33. The Blackfish

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    I believe Dragonstone and KL are both Waters
     
  34. OHW

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    I'll bet he's legitimate. Targs have gone full polygamy before.
     
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  35. zeberdee

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    the fact that three members of the Kingsguard were at the tower while a war was going on makes me think Rhaegar married Lyanna at some point. not sure how it would be proven though.
     
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  36. Vito Corleone

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    With a gun to my head and I had to make a succinct prediction, it would be that Howland Reed visits the Wall to pay respect to Jon Snow, tells people who he was and what happened, and then Melisandre does her thing
     
  37. OHW

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    something in Lyanna's tomb or Howland Reed

    Either way, I don't think it will matter if Jon is legitimate or not. :twocents:
     
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  38. RockHardJawn39

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    Do you guys think Elaria takes Darkstar's place in the wounding of myrcella? She seemed pretty insistent on doing something to her.

    Also jorge and I were talking that when Elaria storms away and Areo Hotah looks at Doran and rubs his finger along that blade it reminded us of this from the waterboy
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  39. Corky Bucek

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    Can somehow see it linked to Bran in his visions revealing or partially revealing this as well.
     
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  40. zeberdee

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    Tower of Joy is pretty far South.
     
  41. Pawpride

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    Didn't Rhaegar and Lyanna apparently visit the Isle of Faces? Or am I making that up
     
  42. Corky Bucek

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    Agree, but it's not like they have set any precedence on what the Greenseers can see.
     
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  43. zeberdee

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    I thought Bran needed to see through the eyes of a Weirwood, but like you said you never know.
     
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    He saw lots of stuff in his dreams that a weirwood wouldn't have been able to see...

    ...but a raven very well could have.
     
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  47. Sir Phobos

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    this is basically the show thread now. minus knowing Job gets stabbed and Cersei gets naked we're all clueless right now.

    kinda fun, actually.
     
  48. BayouMafia

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    the hell it is. Don't lump me in with those illiterates who don't even know basic character names
     
  49. RoyalShocker

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    At this point, I would feel comfortable lumping any one of us in with the illterates who don't even know basic character names.
     
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  50. Vito Corleone

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    Impatient Streaming Showrunner bookfag new master race now imo