Season 5 - The night is dark and full of Spoilers [book readers thread]

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  1. Fidelio

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    ok, smart guy. so who in god's name (old and the new) is the high sparrow? has to be someone.
     
  2. Sir Phobos

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    I'm pretty sure people know better and keep their mouths shut because they don't want to die for asking questions. That's always been my reasoning.

    I did until I realized the context was about Robert Strong and not the Mountain. I think it might mean Jaime. I don't think he'll sit idly by again and watch another member of his family use the Mountain to ruin more lives. I could totally see the Oberyn part but I don't think Martin's talking past and present. I think he's talking about specifically who will take down Robert Strong.

    which btw I hope they somehow hold true in the show. I really want to see Gravedigger v Robert Strong(even though I doubt they bother with the Gravedigger bit and they'll just show the Hound didn't die).
     
  3. Sir Phobos

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    He is.

    the LOTR fan in me took over on that answer
     
  4. scottblue

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    The actor could play it coy or not answer it all, rather than saying he's definitely done with the show that shoots a month from now. There's no way he could hide it for more than a few weeks. What'd be the point in that?

    I never once said anything about him being recast.
     
  5. Pawpride

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    I used to believe the HR=HS theory until this show season happened. I've always thought the HR=HS was based on the thought that HR was pulling the long con, not that he had actually converted to the faith.

    Using that logic, it's not impossible to think that some sneaky crannogmen with the support of some Northmen could infiltrate the faith. One could argue the faith and the weirwood religion are rivals/enemies. Isn't it described that some of the High Sparrow's followers traveled with him shirtless despite the cold and had axes?
     
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  6. Byrnes6D1

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    Jon snow is not dead. Jon targaryon is alive. Azor azhi is alive.

    It's silly to think he's actually dead and never returning after all the build up.
     
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  7. Byrnes6D1

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    The high sparrow is
    Just a plot device. Sorry. Most liberal authors have issues with religion and seek to portray it badly.
     
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  8. Swt

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    He's a target for Cerise boot heel until the younger and prettier queen arrives to cast her down
     
  9. ANTWONE

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    Are you sure you read the books?
     
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  10. scottblue

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    Well, we'll all know in a few weeks when S6 starts shooting.
     
  11. scottblue

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    What does that even mean?
     
  12. ANTWONE

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    That half the shit you post in here makes me swear you're retarded
     
  13. scottblue

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    and retards couldn't have read the books?

    You can disagree, but it's all speculation, nobody knows for sure that he even returns in the books, let alone the show adaptation that's already made a million (some totally unnecessary) changes.
     
  14. zeberdee

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    I don't think one has to do with the other.
     
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  15. steamengine

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    Book publishing dates, just as a reminder

    1996
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  16. slhorn

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    We all knew this. Why did you have to bring it up again and make everyone sad?
     
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  17. steamengine

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    People forget things.
     
  18. Xander Crews

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    Lolwat?
     
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  19. lastsonofkrypton

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    I swear to God....
     
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  20. rezy

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    it would be great if melisandre revives jon snow then she gets killed immediately afterwards
     
  21. slhorn

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    But the tits man. Cmon
     
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  22. BP

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    Plenty of tits have gone by the way side. Ros mainly.
     
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  23. Ace Boogie

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    You must not be liberal!
     
  24. billdozer

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    Lightbringer has to stab someone to get its light, might as well be a priestess of the Lord of light.
     
  25. Pharoh

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    Euron
     
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  26. Lawnole23

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    She'll raise Jon from the dead. He'll lose part of his humanity. Theon and Sansa will escape back to the wall. Jon will need to make his sword into lightbringer and will kill Sansa with it. He'll then turn it on the Night's Watch and wildlings slaughtering them all. He'll join forces with the white walkers but kill the Night King and wear his scalp as a crown. Everyone else also dies from starvation after the crops are destroyed by the cold. The only survivors are Bran who just sits as a tree and the Sand Snakes who run around cracking their whips and making bad puns. The End.
     
  27. GuyOnA_Buffalo

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    Fixed
     
  28. Hank Scorpio

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    So George wrote 3 books then had no idea what to do to get to the end game and/or got lazy.
     
  29. Marv

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    I didnt become a bookfag until after Season 1 of GoT, but from what I read he was writing one gigantic book which is what took so long. When he realized it was too big he splits the POVs in half and released AFFC. But for ADWD he just got lazy to finish
     
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  30. Heavy Mental

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    He originally planned for it to be a 3 book series. It became clear when Dany got to Mereen that he hadn't thought too much about how to bring the key characters together (aka the Mereenese Knot). He had a well formed beginning, a well formed ending, but the middle was made up on the fly and got him into trouble.

    Part of the reason for this, and this is actually part of the reason I love him as an author, is that he is so good at character building and introducing cool settings and backstories that he spends a lot of time on that (maybe too much) and the story gets away from him.
     
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  31. coffee

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    Kind of the opposite. He wrote 3 books and got famous, then got caught up spending way too much time doing appearances and whatnot.
     
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  32. Verbal Kint

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    So I'm trying to take the show at face value but saw another good point: Having Jon killed without the pink letter cheapens everything. Jon was killed in large part because he was going to abandon the watch to go save 'Arya'. In the show he's killed just because they don't like him. There's no strategy at all involved because the wildings are already over there AND they killed the 1 commander who's actually faced wights and white walkers in battle and seen what they're capable of. Also there's no logical way to claim that they don't believe the walkers are a threat after dozens if not hundreds of black brothers saw what happened at Hardhome. So now they have empirical proof that Jon was absolutely correct but they kill him anyway. It was purely emotional OR a power grab by Thorne.
     
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  33. Lawnole23

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    Although the white walkers are real I would assume many of them just think the wall will protect them from them.
     
  34. goheels10

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    It's pretty clear to me that most in the Nights Watch are retards. I'm surprised they didn't spell it Trater.
     
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  35. DelapThrows

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    I'm quite sure Thorne is the only one of them that can read. It's practically a magic skill among the non-highborn.
     
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  36. Fancy

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    the Thread remembers.
     
  37. Gtr

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    looking damn near perfect in this interview

    :jizz:
     
  38. Sticky

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    You have to take into account that he started writing it in 1991 so really he wrote the first three books in 9 years. It's still terrible that he's only released 2 books in 15 years though
     
  39. Swt

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    didn't realize she's only 38, always thought she was just some crazy impressive 45-50 yr old
     
  40. Jeffrey Lebowski

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    Wow :ohgosh:
     
  41. Celemo

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    Having a crannogman infiltrate King's Landing and undermine the Lannisters through the guise of The Faith to help avenge the Starks is a theory I want to believe. Plus as the High Sparrow he would be in a position to legitimize Jon Snow as a Targaryean. I'm not a tinfoil hat guy but I want this theory to be true. It really makes a lot of sense to me
     
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  42. NinjaRXA

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    Well you're wrong.
     
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  43. Celemo

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    Whatevs...wouldn't be the first time
     
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  44. Cronk

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    she fucked GRRM and got his hat, hopefully will also lead to the books being finished

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  45. coffee

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    It really is kind of weird that she's wearing his hat.
     
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  46. Coke

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  47. Nelson

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  48. RoyalShocker

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    Christ she is beautiful.

    And Dutch?!

    the dutch don't usually look like that.
     
  49. UA412

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    Just posted some pretty big casting news in the season 6 thread. They made me almost completely forgive them.
     
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    :chatzy:
     
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