I like the theory that Rhaegar was the prince that was promised and his mistakes and Robert's hammer ruined everything and all we will see is sadness and death because the author is an angry fat pig.
Can't wait to see what kinda post jon reaction we get at the wall from the brothers of the white's watch and the otherlings.
I am hoping so much that they don't cheeseball the Greyjoys. The portrayal of Balon in the scene with Theon was perfect. "Did you pay the iron price...or the gold?" PLEASE DON'T FUCK THIS UP FOR ME HBO
Lol they are something out of an R-Rated pirates of the Caribbean! They fight amongst themselves, steal and murder, and they have a giant dragon horn...
I meant the cartoonish nature. Like how the Sand Snakes felt like they were what a Showtime ripoff version of GoT would be.
This is exactly my fear. Don't make them cartoony. Balon was really well done, so that gives me hope that they at least understand how the portrayal should be.
Just remembered King Littlefinger is on his way with an army to save The North. Season 6 is gonna be the shit.
I'm kind of warming to the idea that she hit the tree over his head after the "do your duty" comment made her realize her duty is to Sansa, and Stannis would be a valuable bargaining chip. Of course, like zeberdee keeps saying, it was stupid that Priority #1 for the Bolton army wasn't to bring back Stannis (or his head) to begin with, but whatever. Time to move on and consider what's next I guess.
I would love to see more Steven Dillane in this show but I think Stannis's arc is done. His family is dead and his army has been destroyed. He no longer has Mel. If Sansa was still in winterfell I could have seen him in the Mance role, so what other part could he have played?
I'm starting to think that regardless of what GRRM does, the show is going to leave Jon out next season just to drag it out. I originally thought it would be episode 6-7ish before they would bring him back, but I don't see how they can do anything without some sort of direction. So that would give ol George about a little over a year to get the next book out in time for season 7 filming.
How certain are you guys that they're filming the Tower of Joy? Is there more smoke to that than just the assumed casting of Arthur Dayne?
we will be getting some answers soon...they are all going to ComicCon! @GameOfThrones 2m2 minutes ago #GoT is coming to #SDCC. The #GoTSDCC panel will be 7/10 at 2:30PM in Hall H moderated by @SethMeyers w/ panelists from the cast & crew.
was listening to the bald move podcast and they mentioned something that made a lot of sense to me. When Thoros of Myr first revived Berric Dondarrion he didn't believe in the red god anymore and said a prayer because his friend died. Melisandre is in a similar situation right now where she looks about ready to give up on her faith and will bring Jon back by saying a prayer over him.
This has probably been mentioned on here before, but I'm stuck on a train and bored... Thinking back, the fact that they filmed a scene about Thoros and his ability to resurrect Berric means it must have a purpose.... Right? The show isn't like the books where you can just throw out randomness and expect people to follow. Scenes have to be relevant to story lines and/or character arcs.
a lot of people have been pointing towards that for three seasons with LSH, the new line of thinking is that they didn't want to cheapen the Snow resurrection by having LSH revealed earlier
That's why I still think Ghost plays a part. There's absolutely no point, otherwise, in explicitly showing Orell warging into his eagle right before Jon kills him.
Interesting. Makes sense. Totally forgot about that. One thing is for sure... If they open an episode with Previously on Game of Thrones and then proceed to show Thoros bringing back Berric or Orell warging, I'm just gonna go ahead and whip out my peen right then.
they've never showed Jon warging or having even the slightest hint of being able to do so and no, this isn't the books so forget the "all Starks can warg" stuff. as far as the show is concerned, there's been 2 wargs on the show and 1 is dead and the other is a cripple lost on the other side of the Wall. there's no precedent for Jon warging into Ghost and it won't do anything but make people scratch their heads and have B&W spend time they don't have drawing out how they're going to get him out of Ghost and back into a body. there's no reason to have him warg on the show and what happened 3 years ago with a Wildling wasn't some master stroke of theirs for what happens now. they weren't poking the audience with a stick going "HEY, HEY, THIS GUY WHO YOU'VE SEEN WARG A BUNCH IS WARGING WHEN HE'S KILLED BY THIS OTHER GUY THAT HAS NEVER WARGED THAT'S A HINT REMEMBER IT 4 YEARS FROM NOW". Mel is going to raise him and that's that.
I like the Dondarion style raising for the show. It's much simpler and there's already an example. George can do something better and more complete like he's done for everything else in the series.
this show uses an amazing amount of Deus ex machina as it is, I can't begin to see them using a warg to save Jon when we'll have spent 9 months going "hey, don't forget that Mel is like 20 feet away this whole time". then you have to get his body or another body and find some way to get his soul into that and write an explanation for it and holy shit it's just so much easier for Mel to say 2 sentences and wave her hands and it also makes way, way more sense. if this was Game of Thrones: Asperger Kings and Queens 600 hour edition Volume XII then yea man, warg away because we totally showed it that one time 4 years ago but until then maybe let's just use Mel, yea? besides all that, it's going to just look cool. at absolute worst without WoW out we're going to get confirmation on Jon being alive after all these years and at best you're going to watch your imagination spring to life while AA is reborn and it's going to be awesome and everyone will geek out together.
You guys keep talking about this like it's the showrunners' call. The book will dictate how Jon comes back. And Ghost was ignored on the show...right up until they reminded us he was at Castle Black a couple episodes before the end.
he was saving Sam. there has been almost no connection between he and Jon lately. also, I have no idea why you think the book will dictate anything after the season we just watched.
I'm fairly confident they have been told what happens with Jon and wouldn't change something so significant.
I think if the change is in how he comes back it's not a big deal. I don't think that is as significant as just leaving him dead on the show if he is alive in the books or the other way around.
The Direwolves are expensive as fuck to CGI, hence their sporadic use. Like previously stated, much cheaper to bring back Jon with three lines of dialogue.
They should just start a CGI fundraiser in the GoT offseasons. You can't tell me all these crazed fans wouldn't collectively toss in some bones to see more awesomer dragons and direwolves.
Yep. Ghost swooped in to save Sam, but was nowhere to be seen when Jon was executed. Jon better have some words for Ghost when he is resurrected.
It is the show runners' call. They could have aliens fly in on a spaceship and bring jon back with secret alien technology if they wanted to and grrm couldn't stop it. And I don't see warging being part of it at all. Sure they had that one scene a few years ago. They also had a few call backs to Tysha in season 3 as if they were reminding show watchers who the hell she is to set up the Tywin (not) shitting gold scene. Then season 4 rolls around and not a word about her since.
Wow, this season really, really jaded some of you on the show. Jon's is the storyline the show has stayed most faithful to thus far, arguably, and I don't see them straying at such a crucial point.