Season 6 : TV Thread : Winter is here. Yet we're still Unsullied. No Spoilers

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  1. dump

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    I dont think it was ever an official wedding if there was ever a wedding at all
     
  2. Nizz

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    i think the "little brother" part was left out because they might want to kill her another way, if at all.
     
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    Uh, I'm pretty sure the High Sparrow was secretly Howland Reed
     
  4. Boom TittyMilk

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    Thread title needs to incorporate

    Winter Is Here
     
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    I'm pretty sure the high sparrow was 20 years older than ned at least
     
  6. 47 straight

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    only non little brother it could be is arya. Maybe she wears the face of one of Cersei's little brothers to get close enough to kill her
     
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    because irregularities, life is irregular.
    and how will he always be Jon Snow?! Ramsay was once a Snow as well till he was made a legit Bolton. In all speculation, if he's outed as a Stark/Targ to the population, does he just default to Snow? He's recognized as a Stark now, yes I Know, but I guess I just have questions that may or may not be answered. Names and family lineages have a lot to do with all aspects in the GoT world.
     
  8. TLAU

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    my day is just fine. assuming Jamie hasn't killed her in the most recent book, I'm not wrong. Plain and simple. If I'm wrong a year from now you can feel free to bump this post.
    1 - Yes I am drawing a difference. Seeing as that the majority of KL is just fine instead of a pile of ashes. I'd compare it to a 9/11 attack vs. dropping a nuke on all of NYC. Is the majority of the KL population still alive? I was led to believe that last night.... which would be a huge difference. But seeing as the mad king never got to set the city on fire, it's impossible to adequately compare a hypothetical to something that actually happened.

    2 - She sent the mountain to keep Tommen in his room explicitly to not directly cause his death. His pussy ass jumped on his own.

    3 - :loldog: at betting on a fucking TV show. I haven't read past book 3. And if I really followed the books I'd go into the book thread and talk about these theories forever. But I don't, so I'm gonna stay in the TV SHOW THREAD and post my own theory: Jamie doesn't kill Cersei, and hope that dipshits from the book thread don't bring non-show stuff over here to act cool and talk down to people about having a tough day because we only watch the show... in the show thread. After all - the only thing I'm reading on here is "little brother." And as previously stated I'm fully on board with Tyrion, her little brother, killing her. Which would satisfy the prophecy that everyone keeps regurgitating.

    Thanks :heythere:
     
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    Done
     
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  10. MajorRaider

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    Doesn't really seem all that plausible at this point.
     
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  11. TLAU

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    JaxTeller probably stands to lose several bitcoin bets if this happens :warn:
     
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    I was kidding, guys
     
  13. Boom TittyMilk

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    Its amazing you think that Cersei did not directly cause Tommens death. She killed him with the blackwater.
     
  14. Damion

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    There are 4 people alive who know about it. Bran, Howland, and the 2 midwifes or whatever that were in the room with her. I think at some point Jon finds out his real name and adopts it because you can clearly hear Lyanna say "his name is" then it kinda trails off
     
  15. TLAU

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    no it's not
     
  16. IAHusk

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    Everyone finding out Jon's true parentage wouldn't have any sort of negative consequences for him. He is the son of Rhaegar (the Mad King's firstborn son) and I'm pretty sure line of succession would actually give Jon a stronger claim to the throne than Dany, especially if the Mad King died before Rhaegar did. If the Mad King died first, then Jon is unquestionably the heir to the throne. If not, then there may be some debate but I'm almost positive that line of succession would still be in Jon's favor.
     
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    And The Hound is also with them, which would reunite everyone's favorite non-Bronn related odd couple.
     
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    What ever happened with the other red priestess who visited dany?

    She was very pretty
     
  19. IAHusk

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    Kinvara, she went back to have her priests and priestesses spread the word that Dany is the princess who was promised. Not sure if she will have a larger part to play in the show's endgame.
     
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  20. Jax Teller

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    You literally said when you read the books when you were talking about why he wouldn't do it. How am I supposed to know you didn't make it past book 3? Of course I'm going to use the books to dispute your point of view if you say you read them.

    That being said, you're probably the only person that thinks he won't do it so we'll just leave it at that.
     
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    kind of assumed / hoped that was the last we saw of Essos now that Dany and Arya are gone. If there's only ~13 episodes left they don't need to waste anymore time over there.
     
  22. 47 straight

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    High Sparrow spent all that time appearing to be very smart and calculated. How he didn't even remotely see Cersei coming at all just shows the naivety of The Faith in the 7.
     
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    Well no there's two of us. And I'm sure there are plenty other Show people that don't see it as an absolute truth like you book fags :twocents:

    I'm going off what's been said and done in the actual show. Which is Jamie loves Cersei unconditionally and will do anything for her/love. And as of right now the only data to suggest otherwise is him giving her a soniamdisappoint look while she was being crowned.

    as for your first part: there's no way you could know I stopped at book three but you can read thread titles and have probably seen over the last 6 years that it's just straight douchey to talk book stuff in the show thread. It's become more common this season because of new material that hasn't been in books but that doesn't change the fact that most people ITT would rather not have any non-show information posted here at all. Seeing some people say they never even said the whole "little brother" thing on the show. If that's true (and I don't remember TBH) then book fags bringing this little brother info ITT is pretty shitty altogether. *this isn't really directed solely at you just restating what 47 Straight said before that book shit is being put ITT way too much this season
     
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    Well they also made a point to emphasize that every one (show watchers) knows why he ruined his honor and his reputation. The show has proven over and over to be pretty straight forward with their foreshadowing.
     
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  25. PAHokie

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    Jon is a bastard regardless. Just so happens he is a bastard of two powerful families. Rhaegar was married to Elia Martell. He took Lyanna as a prisoner and knocked her up.
     
  26. Houndster

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    Not necessarily. There is precedent to Targaryeans having multiple wives.
     
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    Yes it has been a recurring theme of him getting shat on for being the kingslayer and having no honor. And I understand people saying he's turning over a new leaf in life... however he gave a speech 2 episodes ago about being willing to launch an innocent 1 year old child into Riverrun via catapult if it meant he could go home to his lover. So I'm sticking with love conquers all for him. And also fail to see how murdering his sister/queen would "restore" his honor in any capacity or illustrate his new honorable outlook on life. If anything wouldn't it make people see him as even worse of a POS???

    I can see why everyone is saying he'd kill her because Tommen died.
    I cannot see why anyone would think he'd kill her to get some vigilante honor street cred.
     
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    Targs sometimes took multiple wives and its not a sure thing she was kidnapped. Lyanna may have ran off with Rhaegar and eloped. She was not very fond of Robert
     
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  29. 47 straight

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    I'm guessing this is just a poor word choice because I don't know anyone that would think that Ned carrying that burden of a secret for his sister is anything but proving his honor was unparalleled by anyone in this story.
     
  30. Bo Pelinis

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    What a fucking end of the season holy shit
     
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  31. Jax Teller

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    Talking about Jamie.
     
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    JAIME
     
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    He's Hispanic?
     
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    I don't think Jon is a bastard. Why would the best swords men from the kings guard be protecting a Stark and her unborn child instead of protecting the Targaryens that were still alive in the middle of a war? Bastard ' s are not treated like that. I guess the book guys can explain this since I'm sure there are more details in the books.
     
  36. Pelican

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    Is this a serious post?
     
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    He's the bastard of Rhaegar and Lyanna.

    If Rhae and Lyanna were secretly married, then he's a full blown targ.
     
  38. Tman12

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    Just stating my opinion you are more than welcome to slam it. I was just wondering
     
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  39. Nug

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    Did Targs take multiple wives?
     
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    I think they got married.
     
  41. Pelican

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    Doubt we will ever know if they got married (guessing they didn't), but there's definitely a good chance Lyanna wanted that Rhaegar dick and it wasn't some rape situation. By all accounts that goes against Rhaegar's personality about as much as having a bastard went against Nedd's.
     
  42. 34

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    Jon Snow is a Snow because his mother was born in the north. It's not where he was born
     
  43. Tman12

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    If Ser Arthur Dayne is a bad ass like everyone says he is, including Bran who says his father said he was the best he ever saw, I just have a hard time, with the way this entire game of thrones story is told, justifying dayne protecting the princess' lover and their bastard child unless he had good reason to. Especially with everything else that was going on at that period of time.
     
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    I think there's a much stronger chance they got married versus Jon is actually a bastard... He is the 'Prince that was Promised'. You can't be a bastard prince.

    They were definitely in love at the very least and I think it's safe to say Uncle Benjen helped her escaped. His guilt in being involved (which indirectly got his dad and brother killed) made him take the black. It also fits that Dany has done all this work to get to Westeros to find that she's not even the heir to the Targaryen dynasty (see Tower of the Undying scene in season 2)
     
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  45. Pelican

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    Ya I guess that kinda does make sense.
     
  46. Nug

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    POTENTIAL BOOK SPOILER:
    I know Dany's scene at House of the Undying was much, much more lengthy and vivid in the books versus the show, i.e., she had a lot more visions and it revealed a lot more about the future of the GoT universe.

    What'd it portray relative to Dany not being the true heir? I don't remember reading/seeing anything about that
     
  47. pearroh

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    oH okay, is this clarified in the books or something? I thought it was where you born or raised.
    I just received the books today in the mail so I'll be starting soon.
     
  48. 34

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    The books didnt but I took the show scene as evidence. Dany finally gets to KL and winter has come. She walks the throne room and approaches the throne. She reaches out but hesitates. I took this two ways... One is that the throne isn't all that important by the time she arrives with what's going on in the north but also the symbolism of snow already on the throne and her not touching it.
     
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