Season 7 book thread - THE DRAGON HAS 3 HEADS

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  1. Jax Teller

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    True but maybe he saw the Dragons and was all "fuck that" until he gets his hands on dragonbinder.
     
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    :beerchug:
     
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    Hell I guess Hoss, guess I never realized the size in numbers of the Iron Born on the whole.


    Anyway, how cool was it that the Hound of all characters, was able to read the flames. He's evolved into "one of my favorites". Dare I say favorite character as that would surely get him murdered in some shit fashion...
     
  4. Hoss Bonaventure

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    I think it's because they're spread out on the Iron isles and are only there to drop stuff off and resupply their ships before taking off again to go raid. I think it was in a Theon chapter when he was explaining it to the captain's daughter he was banging. I think the Hound has a huge role to play coming up. He is a character that has done a complete 180 and I like how they're tying in his thing with fire into the red gods thing as well.
     
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  5. Gata

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    Thinking about it, Euron's gift has to be the horn. They haven't mentioned it yet on the show, but if they would have several seasons ago most viewers wouldn't even remember anyways. Giving her Tyrion wouldn't really solve anything other than lust for revenge. The horn would make Euron's proposal impossible to refuse. Unless they can kill him and take it.
     
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    if the gift is the horn why didn't he just give it to her?
     
  7. Gata

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    I don't know. Could be that he knows where it is or its rumored location? The show writers could come up with something. Maybe some people know where it is but there was no reason to possess it until now because everybody thought dragons were extinct. Just seems doubtful that Cersei would marry him just to get to kill Tyrion. jmo
     
  8. Pharoh

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    I think the gift is going to be a dragon, via the horn.
     
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  9. Pharoh

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    I didn't really catch it when it happened, but did Thoros explain how the Hound could read the flames? I feel like he said that since the Hound was responsible for one of Dondarion's deaths that he'd be able to read them, but I could have heard that wrong.

    Edit: rewatched the scene today. Thoros just mentioned how the Hound saw him bring Beric back, and asked if he'd like to see for himself what he sees (or something like that).

    Also doesn't this essentially make the Hound a red priest?
     
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  10. Spoilered because I think this fan theory is true.

    Bran's greater purpose is to bring about the war because he is the war. He is the Night's King, Bran the Builder, and the voice in King Aerys' head that makes him go mad. By repeatedly trying to stop the war from ever happening, he sets in motion what has already happened. The ink is dry.
     
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  11. Pharoh

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    :ohshit: :blowup:
     
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    until he goes back and strangles himself in the womb

    /Butterfly Effect alternate ending
     
  13. Pharoh

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    I've read similar variations of this, but how would he be the Night King/the war as well? That would mean pretty much everything is in his head or something?

    I don't know if I read it somewhere or not, but I've had this thought that they are in a time loop where the only thing they can do is fight evil. Wall comes down, long night is upon the world, Bran helps save the world by entering thoughts and similar actions, rebuilds the wall (Bran the Builder), then the period of peace comes. In trying to prevent everything (this goes in line with your post), he enters thoughts and actually starts the line of events that brings forth the next Great War, in which he has to defend against again.

    I'm sure there's a much cleaner, better organized version of that "theory".
     
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  14. That is the one thing that bothers me a little bit about him being the Night's King. Kind of a chicken and the egg conundrum. It might not be perfectly accurate, but I'm convinced that Bran fucking with the past has caused a vast majority of what is happening in Westeros. Here is a video that explains it pretty well.
     
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    he knows the past is written. they drilled that lesson into him last season especially with the hodor reveal. can't see him trying to prevent the war by going into the past because he know what's come to pass will come to pass no matter what he does.

    the only way I could see something like this happening is as some sort of last ditch effort where he wargs into the guy they turned into the night's king knowing that he'll have to live the next 8,000+ years as him and then allow himself to be killed.
     
  16. Pawpride

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    Mind blown
     
  17. slhorn

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    I'm sorry but maybe he just doesn't know.
     
  18. BP

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    That would be insane.
     
  19. slhorn

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    No way on the time skip. Just lazy writing.
     
  20. Fuzzy Zoeller

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    I thought the episode was great. 9.5 out of 10.

    Except:

    Cersei absolutely should have mentioned her mother among the Lannisters Tyrion has killed. It's his original sin that she's never forgiven him for. I know it didn't happen in the show blah blah blah but it's the central tenant to the Cersei-Tyrion relationship. And the maddening thing is it's two extra words of dialogue.

    The fact that D&D wrote this episode makes it all the more incredible that wasn't included.
     
  21. ChileanNole

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    On Euron's gift, while the dragonbinding horn makes sense, there are a couple of issues:

    1. It has never been mentioned in the show. Obviously, we know about it from the books and the show runners/writers have to be aware of it, but introducing such a big item this late could piss people off. It would instantly make Euron the top evil person in the show though which has been mentioned leading up to this season.
    2. If he doesn't have it already in his possession as it appears to be the case, and has to go get it, he would be sailing right past Dany's armada at Dragonstone. If that is the case, then there needs to be a showdown. We all suspend belief a lot for this show, but going to Valyria and back without crossing paths with the Targaryen fleet would be too much. This assumes that the horn is at Valyria like in the books. I guess they could come up with a different location for it, but that would also be lazy.
     
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  22. Pharoh

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    I don't think it'd be that big of a deal.

    When he was first introduced, he was pretty confident in himself being able to marry Dany. Could have just been confident in his looks, but I'm willing to bet that like the books, he already had the horn.
     
  23. prerecordedlive

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    I got you some suspension of disbelief right here.

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  24. BP

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    Pretty interesting stuff if you're bored
     
  25. Mister Me Too

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    To go to old Valyria he would have to go south which means he would not need to battle Dany's armada.

    Here is a map of where Old Valyria is located:

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  26. Gata

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    The ocean is big. It wouldn't be a stretch for him to sail past. And if he already knows Dany is at Dragonstone he would make sure not to sail close enough to be detected. He wouldn't want to risk a confrontation before he had the horn.

    They could show his journey to get the horn over the next several episodes. They could introduce the horn in a short scene. Possibly one of Euron's men asking him where they are going, then he explains. A flashback scene where some old maester is telling him about it? Or maybe they have a short scene where Sam reads about it in the Citadel? Lots of ways they could do it.
     
  27. prerecordedlive

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    He'd have to go right by Dragonstone on his way out of Blackwater Bay. I don't like his chances of avoiding Dany's armada there.

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  28. Gata

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    How wide is that pass though? If it is 1000 miles from Winterfell to King's Landing, that pass is at least 50 miles wide.
     
  29. steamengine

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    holy shit
     
  30. prerecordedlive

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    Dragons can see 51 miles and can yell really loud. Duh.
     
  31. Gata

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    I didn't even think about the dragons. I don't know if they fly reconnaissance missions, but would be an easy spot for them ha
     
  32. Lawnole23

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    I'm just going to assume that the Dragonhorn isn't the gift.

    If he has it then it's bullshit it's never been mentioned before on the show. If he does not have it there is no way he can get to Valyria and find it in time.
     
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  33. prerecordedlive

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    I mean, what does Cersei want that she hasn't been able to get thus far?

    Euron isn't going to be able to pry Tyrion away from Dany. Too valuable.

    But I don't think they introduce some random horn they've never mentioned in the show to this point. I'd like to think we're done world-building and we're ready to play with the pieces on the board. But at the same time, they just dropped the mountain of dragonglass on us.
     
  34. swiz

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    If the horn was going to be in the show it should have been blown at the Kingsmoot like the books. It's a little to late to introduce it now.
     
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  35. Mister Me Too

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    The mountain of dragonglass has at least been hinted at in previous seasons by Stannis, a dragon horn would be coming completely out of nowhere at this point.
     
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  36. Fidelio

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    Pod's horn
     
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  37. BP

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    I forgot about this but wonder if Euron's dragon egg will show up. I could see Cersei wanting that.
     
  38. 34

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    He'd already have it by now. He's not going to be travelling to Essos anytime soon with what's going down in Westeros
     
  39. NCHusker

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    Gendry rowed his little rowboat all the way to Valyria and he has the horn iyam.
     
  40. CF3234

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    Euron gonna borrow the helicopter from Littlefinger to get the horn imo
     
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  41. Mister Me Too

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    Podrick has the horn in his pants.
     
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  42. prerecordedlive

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    The show is actually just about a horn that they haven't introduced in any way. I'm a fan.
     
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  43. steamengine

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    There's a pretty fun interview on the channel 33 podcast with the bovada sports guy who sets the odds for all game of thrones bets.

    He basically scours message boards to gain as much knowledge as possible. He's probably reading right now. :peekaboo:

    Kinda like this thread, he said Gendry is their biggest unknown.
     
  44. Mister Me Too

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    Has it been discussed that Jon Snow is a Wight for the lord of light?
     
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    As is Beric
     
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  46. Hank Scorpio

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    Pretty logical and likely guess on what Euron's gift will be based on preview footage
     
  47. Buff_Ruffnek

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    Makes one think Randyl Tarly
    is about to be done....Well Done...
     
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  48. Celemo

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    didn't catch it before but in the intro, apparently both bodies of water on either side of the wall have been frozen over

    before
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    this season
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    :ohshit::ohshit::ohshit::ohshit::ohshit::ohshit::ohshit::ohshit::ohshit::ohshit::ohshit::ohshit::ohshit::ohshit::ohshit::ohshit::ohshit::ohshit::ohshit:
     
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  50. Celemo

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    Nudity and strong sexual content....YES!!!
     
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