Season 7 book thread - THE DRAGON HAS 3 HEADS

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  1. 34

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    Confirmed. If you own AWOIAF, you'll know that those chapters are super interesting. I'll take it, at least it should be good material

    http://grrm.livejournal.com/519773.html
     
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    He has 350,000 words of 'world building material' for Essos/Westeros. That's insane
     
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  4. coffee

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    And zero published pages of the next book in the series that made that world relevant.
     
  5. jayhawkmpa

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    I guess that depends on your definition of published.
     
  6. coffee

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    Yeah I guess he published those chapters, which are useless imo (I won't read them until I have the full book).

    But I was just being a dick and factually incorrect.
     
  7. 34

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  8. buy_dont_lease

    buy_dont_lease Ha ha ha. What a story, Mark.
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    Watched this last night with my wife. The "libtard c-uck" line made me laugh out loud and think of TMB.
     
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    These are so ridiculous now, after GRRM scolded him his videos have gone from mildly interesting to painfully stupid.
     
  10. Rick

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    Cliffs on this?
     
  11. scottblue

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    Someone else probably knows it better but basically he rudely shot down a bunch of Prestons theories at some convention.
     
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  12. buy_dont_lease

    buy_dont_lease Ha ha ha. What a story, Mark.
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    Fwiw I found these theories in this episode to be among his most reasonable. Most of his shit is off-the-wall.
     
  13. lastsonofkrypton

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    what's the theory about?
     
  14. buy_dont_lease

    buy_dont_lease Ha ha ha. What a story, Mark.
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    TLDR version is he thinks Littlefinger may have been trying to poison Tyrion's pigeon pie, but Joffrey unexpectedly ate it first. Motive would be offing Tyrion so he could marry Sansa. Differs from the accepted theory that Joffrey was the target, Lady Olenna and perhaps Littlefinger were the culprits, and it was done with strangler poison in the wine.

    He shared a few passages about how the strangler worked on Cressen and there were some interesting differences from how Joffrey died.

    It's just less of a stretch than most of his crap and isn't particularly consequential in how the story has or will unfold, IMO.
     
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  15. zachary

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    just got the books from amazon today . super excited to start reading these tomorrow
     
  16. Marv

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    So jealous of you and your innocence
     
  17. zachary

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    i cant believe i waited so long..goodbye to my social life
     
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  18. The Blackfish

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    You'll never guess how it ends!!

    it doesn't.
     
  19. Lawnole23

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    Ever.
     
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  20. Mister Me Too

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    Here's your real ending:

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  21. AIP

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    Funny part is just a year back everyone was defending George how you can't rush an artist, its his story and his time line, he doesn't owe us anything etc

    I was always in the team fuck fat ass camp
     
  22. Lawnole23

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    Well a year or two ago you could defend it saying he's taken this long before blah blah blah but as he works on other projects and 6 years or however long have gone by it's very clear he's just not working on it very often. He probably hates the universe at this point and doesn't care. We'll get the book within a year I suspect but the last book either never comes or he'll rush it out quickly and it will be terrible.
     
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    I don't think he hates the universe, I just think his interests lie more in Westeros' past then the current events. He'd much rather write Fire and Blood or Dunk and Egg short stories imo
     
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  25. Mr Bulldops

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    I don't think he hates it. I think he hates that everyone has theorycrafted a bunch of his twists and knows the gist of how the ending is going to go. It's taking him so long to write now because he is trying to figure out a way to get himself out of the arc he has written himself into and can't figure out a way that isn't totally asinine.

    Maybe if he didn't want people to go over ever word he has written with a fine toothed comb and figure out his twists he shouldn't have let them have years between each book to do it
     
  26. Sir Phobos

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    so what is Sam's story coming to for us? just binged season 6 again and the last episode with the shot of the Citadel was so awesome and it just made me wonder where they're taking Sam's story. he's clearly meant to see Jon again but I don't know why.
     
  27. scuba

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    He is going to find important information in the fight against the Walkers within the library at the Citadel.
     
  28. zeberdee

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    I really hope we get Marwyn.
     
  29. GBG_24

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    He'll find out how to make Valyrian Steel, imo.
     
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    My guess is he figures a cure to greyscale (meeting Jorah while in Oldtown) and info on white walkers
     
  31. Sir Phobos

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    I mean he's already given info on the Others. he found the dragonglass and read how it kills them, I can't see them doubling up on that. I think Valyrian steel is a very good idea and grayscale would make sense as well. just can't see him going down here and finding out yet another thing about the Others.
     
  32. Lawnole23

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    The above seems correct but it's GRRM so Sam will be sent off on a few adventures which will take another 4 books because he'll have Sam on a new continent and can't figure out a good way to get him back.
     
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    The way to make Valyrian steel was lost in the doom. They would have been forging Valyrian steel in the free cities otherwise. Info on wights/the Night King is much more probable since the long night has happened before.
     
  34. zeberdee

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    I don't know if they will go the same direction in the show, but in the books I always thought Sam was heading in a magical direction.
     
  35. Sir Phobos

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    I mean they just found plans to a 200 million dollar nuclear submarine in a Welsh thrift shop. People find stuff where it shouldn't be all the time in real life why not in GoT? Why couldn't there be some old text written forever ago by a maestar who talked with a smith or something and it was misplaced or something that Sam finds?

    It's just, we've done the Others and Sam thing. We even know who the Night King is because of Bran. Not saying it won't happen, just saying it'll be lazy writing if it does because we've already been there. It would be much more exciting for Sam to discover something like Valyrian steel or a magical item or something rather than:

    *huffs, puffs way back to Jon*
    "hey Jon, I found something out about the White Walkers"
    "no, not dragonglass, something else"
    "yes, I know dragonglass can kill them but believe me this is something else entirely new"
    "OK so how you kill them is ___"
     
  36. zeberdee

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    Yeah but who knows... The show can be lazy with their storylines. Maybe he figures out Jons heritage or reads about the long night/azor ahai and connects it back Jon. Either way it's pretty lazy. I do think he figures out the greyscale stuff and cures Jorah and then hopes he can cure Shireen when he gets back :(
     
  38. Sir Phobos

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    I'd thought about Jon as well but I don't know who would have ever had it committed to paper except Howland Reed and they seem pretty insistent on never introducing that character so again I'm puzzled. it's actually one of the few things I'm still genuinely clueless about where they're going.
     
  39. Mister Me Too

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    One of the Maester would've had to record it, perhaps the Targeryan maester is still alive.
     
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    Maesters are designated to locations, not houses
     
  41. Mister Me Too

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    Yes, I'm aware of that, in temporarily forgot that Pycelle was the maester at King's Landing and there sure as hell no way he would've known otherwise Jon would be dead. But I still think there's a maester that would know, like the maester in Dorne.
     
  42. zeberdee

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    it would have made sense for a maester to have been present at the Tower of Joy but it's never been mentioned.
     
  43. Mister Me Too

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    Yes, I do agree that it would've made sense and all we know about is a nurse, but I always figured if they were in the reach then Dorne would know about it.
     
  44. zeberdee

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    I think the missing maester is whoever was at Dragonstone.
     
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    Why would there be a maester at the Tower of Joy? It's not a holdfast or anything. Now Rhaegar could have sent the one of the maester of Kings Landing as there's usually 3 in the city IIRC on top of the Grand Maester but it's very unclear. The show you would have thought would have shown one if the reason Sam goes to Oldtown is ultimately to find Jons berth certificate or other evidence, but I'm just spitballing here.

    Would wish the show would go the Howland Reed route but it seems they'll just leave him out.
     
  46. zeberdee

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    you don't think it would make sense for Rhaegar to have a maester there to tend to his wife as she gave birth the their son who he believe to be the prince that was promised? I would think he would have taken every precaution for them.
     
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    Maybe that's the reason she died? I don't know. Maybe he couldn't find a maester that he fully trusted as his life basically depended on this staying secret had he won the war?
     
  48. zeberdee

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    why would it need to stay secret had he won the war?
     
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    The faith is super anti-polygamy. I would think his accession to the throne would have been vehemently contested. It was the main reason for the downfall of Maegor
     
  50. Mister Me Too

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    Perhaps he sent a maester to Old Town pending the outcome of the war.