Season 8 Book Thread - WHERE THE GODSWOOD IS IN WINTERFELL

Discussion in 'Game of Thrones (ASOIAF)' started by 34, Sep 26, 2017.

  1. jaygabriel

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    They openly admit to not understanding the major plot points of the book. :facepalm:

    "The scope was too big. It was about the scenes we were trying to depict and the show was about power."
     
  2. ShuPoor

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    These motherfuckers
     
  3. Fuzzy Zoeller

    Fuzzy Zoeller College football > NFL

    I'm going to play Devil's Advocate here for a bit.

    1) If not for Benioff and Weiss, there is no show. Period. It's not as if they beat out JJ Abrams and Guillermo del Toro back in 2008 to get this pilot. This means may people ITT, myself include, have still never heard of ASOIAF.

    2) If they had pitched the entire scope of ASOIAF to HBO in the beginning, the show probably never gets made.

    3) GOT became the biggest show in television history, so it's hard to see, from D&D's perspective, that the decision to play for NFL players instead of neckbeards was a bad one.

    4) I'm not going to defend them on not bothering to understand the themes and characters (holy shit) or not hiring writers once the show became so big (holy double shit) but I feel we can't shit on the later seasons without acknowledging all the great scenes, episodes and seasons that came before them. Yes, they were going off the source material, but refer back to Point 1 and repeat the process over again.
     
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  4. ShuPoor

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    Gonna fight you on point 3. There basically is no magic in book 1, so it wasn't an issue for the show at that point. And once you've expanded the fan base you can bring in the neckbeard stuff! If the moms and NFL players are invested in the show, they will accept the neckbeard stuff. And to satisfy the story that it appears GRRM is working on, you are going to need some neckbeard stuff. If they were always going to be embarrassed of the Bran storyline, then just kill him off before he gets to the Three Eyed Raven.
     
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  5. bigpig

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    Imagine living in a world where Avengers Endgame (a time-travel, universe-spanning, comic book story) is the biggest movie ever and saying "we didn't want fantasy because it doesn't appeal to people"
     
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  6. BP

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    Started reading that Twitter thread, then just rage quit. I'm choosing to remember only the first 5 seasons.
     
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  7. Fuzzy Zoeller

    Fuzzy Zoeller College football > NFL

    I don't disagree with you. In fact, I do agree with you. I just don't think D&D view it as a mistake and I think they'd have a hard time viewing it as such given the show's popularity.
     
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  8. ShuPoor

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    I'm sorry but it's too late and we're fighting now
     
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  9. Nelson

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    I think even 15 years ago was a different time in this respect. GoT oddly did yeoman’s work to mainstream fantasy yet was ashamed of it and popularized it so much that by the end of its run that shame looked strange
     
  10. Dick Dollars

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    Not to mention those critical and commercial failures known as the Lord of the Rings trilogy.
     
  11. bigpig

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    And GOT and are both WB productions
     
  12. steamengine

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    There are more neckbeards than nfl players so I don’t get that decision. Probably more moms than neckbeards though tbh.
     
  13. Nelson

    Nelson Can somebody please get Ja Rule on the phone
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    The neckbeards will largely watch either way. They’ll bitch online, but that’s still revenue. There’s a lot more revenue to be gained in mainstreaming.

    that being said, i don’t think DD did it for that reason. It’s more their natural aversion to those elements
     
  14. zeberdee

    zeberdee read it? I own it. but no, I have not read it
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    assuming they consider themselves artists, their admissions are pretty embarrassing.

    if they’re just in it for the paycheck then they nailed it.
     
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  15. BP

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    Great watch. I would watch the shit out of some House Dayne.

     
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  16. Gin Buckets

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    Came to post this. :respek:
     
  17. Sir Phobos

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    FWIW Charles Dance is on the latest season of The Crown on Netflix as Lord Mountbatten (Prince Philip's father) and it's pretty easy to see why, because the real Lord Mountbatten was very much like Tywin Lannister, obsessed with rank, title, and his family's legacy.

    That show, btw, is amazing and well worth watching.
     
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  18. Name P. Redacted

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    Just wanted to check in and say that the show and GRRM’s inability to do his damn job has basically killed any continued interest I have in the story.
     
  19. marcus

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    I bought Fire and Blood and haven’t touched it. I have no desire to read it. :/
     
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  20. BP

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    I felt the same way until I started it. Its honestly a great read. Especially worth it since the new series will focus on the Targs.
     
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  21. Swamp_Monkey

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    Are the illustrations good enough that I should get a paper copy rather than the Kindle version?
     
  22. BP

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    The artwork is pretty sick but not essential. A Targ family tree is more important IMO, gets pretty confusing with all the repeat names and bastards etc
     
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  23. Leeds Raider

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    The amount of times I flipped to the back to look at the family tree was honestly more than I care to admit. Came in super handy.
     
  24. BP

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    Yup, it helped immensely
    house_targaryen_complete_family_tree_by_poly_m-da5q943.jpg
     
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  25. PeterGriffin

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    I hope there is a Hell so that Georgie can go there and I can go there and hopefully he finishes the series and publishes it down there so I have a chance for some god damn closure.
     
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