SEC Basketball Thread

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  1. TC

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    6'9 forward Sedee Keita just announced he's transferring off our team :angry:

    Fucking pissed. He showed good promise as a freshman and stood to play a lot this year
     
  2. bertwing

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    KA should be SEC POTY. The backcourt should be insane with the addition of Hudson. Not sold on the frontcourt offensively, but should be solid defensively. I think y'all will be a ~3 seed. SEC will be pretty tough next season, so I don't see any team winning 16+ conference games and getting a 1 seed. Looking forward to next year. Honestly think that the league could get 8 tourney bids next year
     
  3. THE TRUTH

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    True but i just don't see us doing that this year. Losing Leon and Berry will hurt more than we think imo. That was over half of our 3 pt shooting.
     
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  4. THE TRUTH

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    Yeah, like i said we will be decent. Baby Stokes is the key. If he can come in and give quality minutes after his knee injury we could be in business. Our front line won't be smaller than 6' 8" at any point during a game.
     
  5. Truman

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  6. bertwing

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    Meh. Still plays for Cuonzo
     
  7. Truman

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    If he's even close to as good as all these pro scouts say, he should win regardless of coach.
     
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    I mean he's fucking good. He should put up good numbers, but not sure he'll put up 20+ PPG and 7+ RPG and it usually goes to the best player on one of the two best teams. I just don't buy Mizzou being a top 3 team in this league yet. There is certainly talent, but no depth and a very average coach. I could be wrong and I'm not trying to flame.
     
  9. SC

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    Ben Simmons disagrees.
     
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    He's better than ben Simmons. At least according to the scouts
     
  11. Virgil Caine

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    Give me Daryl Macon for preseason POY.
     
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  12. LeonardWashington

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    Well Sexton is better than him :mulletsmug: so :dealwithit:
     
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    I don't think the conference will ever see a player as good as sindarius thornwell
     
  14. bertwing

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    Would be cool but I just don't see it. Think he's behind Kevaughn Allen and Maten.

    Kingsley was the preseason POTY this season and he was pretty terrible
     
  15. Pharoh

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    Yante for sure for preseason POTY.

    It's a reach now, but I think Chris Silva will be in the discussion by the end of the season.
     
  16. D. Silver

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    In the PK80 tournament this Nov.

    Arkansas opens with Oklahoma
    Florida opens with Stanford
     
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    Weird, they just announced the KP45

    Auburn opens vs Maryland
    South Carolina vs Texas Tech
     
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  19. SuperCam

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    Don't know much about him. Seems odd we'd take a transfer PG though
     
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  21. TC

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    I just googled this guy, says he's under investigation for sexual assault :/

    Former Oregon basketball player Kavell Bigby-Williams is under investigation for sexual assault
    Kenny JacobyJune 21, 2017 at 6:37 pm



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    Former Oregon forward Kavell Bigby-Williams played the 2016-17 men’s basketball season while under criminal investigation for an alleged sexual assault, the Emerald has learned.

    Bigby-Williams, a junior, is accused of sexually assaulting a female between 10 p.m Sept. 17 and 3 a.m. Sept. 18, 2016, at an apartment near Gillette College, a Northern Wyoming Community College District (NWCCD) school. NWCCD campus police have been investigating Bigby-Williams in Gillette, Wyoming, since Sept. 19.

    Bigby-Williams, 21, was a student and basketball player at Gillette College before he transferred to University of Oregon in 2016. He played the most recent college basketball season under head coach Dana Altman and helped take the Ducks to the Final Four. On June 20, he announced his decision to transfer from Oregon to Louisiana State University.

    The allegation comes to light three years after a female UO student accused three Oregon basketball players of rape in March 2014. Altman and UO officials came under fire after it was revealed in May 2014 that the players competed for Oregon in the NCAA Tournament while they were under criminal investigation.

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    Oregon Ducks forward Kavell Bigby-Williams (35) and Oregon State Beavers forward Drew Eubanks (12) reach for the ball. The No. 13 Oregon Ducks play the Oregon State Beavers in the 347th Civil War at Matthew Knight Arena in Eugene, Ore. on Saturday, Jan. 14, 2016.

    University of Oregon police have known about the case involving Bigby-Williams since Sept. 28 — two days after the fall 2016 academic term began — public records show. A UOPD report obtained by the Emerald shows UOPD detective Kathy Flynn attempted to interview Bigby-Williams about the incident twice, but Bigby-Williams avoided speaking to Flynn.

    After Flynn’s two failed attempts to interview Bigby-Williams by phone, Bigby-Williams’ attorney, Nick Carter, called Flynn asking her not to contact his client anymore. UOPD informed NWCCD police, and NWCCD police never requested further assistance, UOPD spokesman Kelly McIver said.

    Altman, athletic director Rob Mullens, and other athletic department staffers were aware UOPD requested Bigby-Williams’ contact information, but nobody asked why UOPD wanted to speak to him or the nature of the case, athletic department spokesman Greg Walker said.

    Carter — an assistant basketball coach at Gillette College and Bigby-Williams’ former coach — said in June that Bigby-Williams is no longer his client, and he was unsure whether the investigation was current. Carter acknowledged the case was an alleged sexual assault, but said the last time he heard from NWCCD police about the case was roughly the same time he asked UOPD not to contact his client anymore on Sept. 29.

    Bigby-Williams declined to comment on this story via Carter and did not respond to a direct message on Twitter requesting comment. Carter declined to comment further.

    NWCCD police could not provide any details to the Emerald about Bigby-Williams’ case. NWCCD police spokeswoman Wendy Smith said the agency is unable to release any information about open investigations, but that the police report would have been made available if the case was closed.

    McIver said it is UOPD policy to notify Title IX and the Office of the Dean of Students when it learns of an alleged sexual assault case involving a student. Title IX convenes a risk assessment team to immediately consider emergency action such as temporary suspension or removal from on-campus housing.

    If the person accused of sexual assault is a student-athlete, UOPD informs the coach of the allegation only if doing so would not “hamper the investigation,” McIver said. The Title IX risk assessment team, however, would include an athletic department representative “when appropriate, such as when there will be an emergency action taken,” according to McIver.

    McIver said UO will not provide specific information about whether UOPD informed Title IX and the Office of the Dean of Students in this case because the information would be protected under student privacy law.

    UO President Michael Schill did not know about the sexual assault allegation involving Bigby-Williams and declined to share his thoughts on it.

    “I don’t have any awareness of that,” Schill said. “In any event, I can’t comment on an individual student. What if I was asked by another reporter about you being obnoxious? Would you want me to tell them that?”

    The alleged victim’s name on the UOPD report was redacted because the case is a sexual assault, UOPD records specialist Mark Matteson said. UOPD does not release the alleged victim’s name in such cases, but the report notes she is a white female unaffiliated with UO.

    According to the report, NWCCD police asked UOPD detective Flynn to conduct a follow-up interview with Bigby-Williams on Sept. 28. Flynn reviewed the police report, text messages and photos from NWCCD police’s case and called Bigby-Williams on his cell phone at 2 p.m. Bigby-Williams answered and told Flynn he was busy and would call back the next day.

    At 11:30 a.m. Sept. 29, Bigby-Williams had not called back, so Flynn called again. Bigby-Williams did not answer, and Flynn left a voicemail.

    A half-hour later, Carter called Flynn requesting she not call Bigby-Williams.

    That was the last interaction UOPD had with Bigby-Williams. McIver said UOPD provided the information to NWCCD police, “which did not request any additional assistance,” and added that police can’t legally question someone who refuses to be interviewed and has asked for legal representation.

    Walker said Altman and Mullens knew UOPD requested Bigby-Williams’ contact information, but that no one at the athletic department knew he was accused of sexual assault.

    The Emerald requested to learn the outcome of any disciplinary proceeding involving Bigby-Williams for a violation of the student conduct code, but the request yielded no responsive records from UO. It is UO policy, however, not to disclose the outcome of a student conduct investigation if the accused student is found responsible for sexual misconduct.

    “In consultation with our victim’s rights advocates and Title IX coordinator, we have determined that the privacy rights of survivors of sexual misconduct and the need to encourage reporting in such cases means that we are not going to release information relating to sexual misconduct cases in student conduct proceedings as a general rule,” UO general counsel Kevin Reed said via email.

    According to Bigby-Williams’ Twitter account, he was in Wyoming on Sept. 19, the day after the alleged sexual assault occurred. He returned to Eugene for fall term, which started Sept. 26.



    Bigby-Williams committed to play for Oregon in April 2016. At 6-foot-10, 223 pounds, he was rated the No. 3 junior college prospect in the country and named the 2015-16 Spalding National Junior College Athletic Association Division I player of the year.

    Bigby-Williams played 37 games for Oregon this season, averaging 9.8 minutes and 3.0 points. He played increased minutes off the bench during the Ducks’ run to the NCAA Tournament Final Four, after center Chris Boucher went down with an injury.

    He recently asked for and was granted a release to explore a transfer to another school. On June 20, Bigby-Williams committed to transfer to LSU.



    Altman was heavily scrutinized three years ago after news broke in May 2014 that three Oregon basketball players — Dominic Artis, Damyean Dotson and Brandon Austin — played for the Ducks in the NCAA Tournament while they were under investigation for a March 2014 alleged sexual assault of a female student.

    Altman was also criticized for recruiting Austin to play for Oregon after police investigated him for a separate alleged sexual assault at his former college, Providence University. No criminal charges were brought against Austin, but he was suspended from the Providence basketball team for a season.

    The Lane County District Attorney’s office dismissed the charges against the three Oregon players in April 2014, writing, “while there is no doubt the incidents occurred, the conflicting statements and actions by the victim make this case unprovable as a criminal case.”

    Altman told reporters during a press conference in May 2014 that he knew an “incident” was being investigated in March but didn’t know the nature of it or which of his players were involved.

    The alleged victim in the case sued UO and Altman in January 2015, alleging Altman knew Austin was accused of sexual assault when he recruited him. The lawsuit also alleged UO did not immediately discipline the players because doing so would have adversely affected the basketball team’s performance. She settled with UO for $800,000 and free tuition in August 2015.

    The three former players filed a lawsuit against UO and four administrators in March 2016, alleging among other things that UO’s investigation of the players was biased and that the accusations cost them future income. That suit is ongoing.

    President Schill says there is no easy answer to whether a student-athlete should be allowed to play sports while under criminal investigation.

    “The fact that someone is under investigation doesn’t mean that they’re guilty, and to be penalizing somebody just because we’re looking into something doesn’t mean that you should take away their rights,” Schill said. “Every case is going to be different, and obviously the most important thing from my point of view as president — and I think yours as a student — is first and foremost to make sure that the students and the faculty and all members of our community are safe.”

    The UOPD report is linked here.

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  22. TC

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  23. Virgil Caine

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    The biggest downside to this is going to be teams scheduling two fewer quality non-conference games. Who knows how much that matters, but from an aesthetic standpoint, the 18 game schedule the SEC uses works just fine.
     
  24. TC

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    That was my thought. Surprised UNC/Duke would sign off on this because they always play such big non-con games. Assuming a) they didn't really have a choice because it was about TV/money and b) they will just cut the shit teams from their schedule and keep the good ones
     
  25. Truman

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    Mizzou's wont stay an 18 'croot but good job SEC
     
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  28. ukcats8

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    Nice pickup. Dude is really good.
     
  29. Pharoh

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    You can add South Carolina once we get Zion.
     
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  30. bertwing

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    lmao

    Even though Barford and Macon are considered combo guards, they still play the point the majority of the time and are head and shoulders better than Harper. Chiozza is better too.

    What a shit tier opinion
     
  31. TC

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    Our PG Rakym Felder is pretty good

    Not as good as the 6'6 guy with the 7'0 wingspan we just lost though :/
     
  32. dump

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  33. Savage Rob Chubb

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    That guy seems love Auburn/Bruce.
     
  34. Virgil Caine

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    If you pay close attention, there's teams/coaches Rothstein gets info from before others. Those are the ones you'll see him unnecessarily praise on Twitter. For instance, I know Ben Howland and Bruce Pearl both use him to get their message out.
     
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  35. bertwing

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    That's no lie

    I know Corey Evans is about the only one that can get Arkansas recruiting info, and it's because he hyped our commits and MA up
     
  36. Virgil Caine

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    The whole thing is a racket. It's also why I don't buy recruiting rankings anymore. After about the Top 20-25 kids, it's all a political campaign. They'll never admit it, but these same guys that do the rankings are literally begged by assistants and head coaches to elevate their signees in rankings. It's why you've started seeing bonuses (specifically in football) tied into recruiting rankings.
     
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    Tennessee releases non conference schedule
    PRESBYTERIAN • FRIDAY, NOV. 10
    HIGH POINT • TUESDAY, NOV. 14


    1. BATTLE 4 ATLANTIS • NOV. 22-24

      Tournament Field: Arizona, NC State, Northern Iowa, Purdue, SMU, Western Kentucky, Villanova

      MERCER • WEDNESDAY, NOV. 29

      at GEORGIA TECH • SUNDAY, DEC. 3

      LIPSCOMB • SATURDAY, DEC. 9

      NORTH CAROLINA • SUNDAY, DEC. 17

      FURMAN • WEDNESDAY, DEC. 20

      at WAKE FOREST • SATURDAY, DEC. 23

      at IOWA STATE • SATURDAY, JAN. 27
     
  38. TC

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    How does one get invited to battle for atlantis
     
  39. SC

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    Ole Miss' non-conference schedule:

    Nov. 10, Louisiana Lafayette
    Nov. 13, Northern Kentucky
    Nov. 17, Georgia State
    Nov. 20, Utah (Las Vegas MGM Grand Main Event)
    Nov. 22, Rice/UNLV (Las Vegas MGM Grand Main Event)
    Nov. 28, South Dakota State
    Dec. 2, Virginia Tech
    Dec. 9, at Middle Tennessee
    Dec. 13, Sam Houston State
    Dec. 16, Illinois State
    Dec. 19, Texas A&M Corpus Christi
    Dec. 22, Bradley
    Jan. 27, at Texas
     
  40. Savage Rob Chubb

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    Pretty meh
     
  41. SC

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    Yeah, would've liked one more big power-6 game. Need to get UNLV in the 2nd game of the MGM. South Dakota State, VT and MTSU were all tourney teams. Illinois State just missed, and counting on Texas to be improved, which they should be.

    Northern Kentucky and Georgia State are part of the Vegas tourney, and athletic department required ULL on Nov 10 since Ole Miss hosts ULL in the football the 11th, wanted a doubleheader of sorts.
     
  42. Truman

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    Strike Arkansas from the list also
     
  43. SuperCam

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    Cal out here embarrassing America

     
  44. ukcats8

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    R.J. Barrett is pretty awesome. Rumor is he will reclassify to 2018. Gotta be a toss-up between him and Bagley for #1 overall.
     
  45. Shawn Hunter

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    He's pretty much doing whatever he damn well pleases in this U19 tournament.
     
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    If Cuonzo figures out how to use the talent he has......
     
  47. D. Silver

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    UF's non-conference

    Nov. 13 Gardner Webb
    Nov. 16 U. of North Florida
    Nov. 19 New Hampshire (Phil Knight 80 Tournament, Portland OR)
    Nov. 23 Stanford (Phil Knight 80 Tournament, Portland OR)
    Nov. 24 Ohio St or Gonzaga (Phil Knight 80 Tournament, Portland OR)
    Nov. 26 Duke or Butler or Texas (Phil Knight 80 Tournament, Portland OR)
    Dec. 4 Florida State
    Dec. 6 Loyola Chicago
    Dec. 9 Cincinnati (in New York)
    Dec. 16 Clemson (in Miami)
    Dec. 20 James Madison
    Dec. 22 Incarnate Word (I have no idea what this is)
    Jan. 27 Baylor
     
  48. TC

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    Why are y'all playing Clemson in Miami?
     
  49. D. Silver

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    Some showcase game thing called the "Orange Bowl Classic". The athletic department always tries to get a few games a year in different parts of Florida.
     
  50. Shawn Hunter

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    Heard today that 2018 #1 ranked player Marvin Bagley might reclassify to 2017 and go to Southern Cal. Kentucky was one of the schools considered in the mix for him for 2018.