Should Eli Manning be a Hall of Famer?

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Should Eli Manning be in the Hall of Fame?

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  3. Need more time to decide

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  1. Pelican Grove

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    This is a stupid question.

    We all know he’s a first-ballot Hall of Famer.

    Long live #10
     
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  2. Pelican Grove

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    Btw the Giants’ playoff run in ‘07 is still remarkable.
     
  3. Handcuffed

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    obviously people remember recent/horrible eli, but what years during eli's career was he a top 5 qb? probably 2011?

    he's obviously going to be in the HOF because of super bowl wins + his last name (and perhaps the city he played in) but he was a long-time average and sometimes above average starter. and in recent years, he was terrible.
     
  4. Daniel Ocean

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  5. Clown Baby

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    Wow, didn’t realize Eli made FOUR pro bowls and was team captain for 13 years
     
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  6. Wu

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    For the record, I don’t think he *should* be in the HOF but he absolutely will be
     
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  7. Doc Louis

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    If Troy Aikman is in the HOF then Eli should be.
     
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  8. Tobias

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    the second super bowl was all him you racist moron

    our defense that year was trash

    can one of the two people on here that dbl doesn’t ignore tell him that
     
  9. Tobias

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    11 is better
     
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  10. Doc Louis

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    It's amazing the success he's had despite the Giants best efforts. He even had a winning season with Tom Coughlin as head coach.
     
  11. Gunners

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    Has there ever been a player that was at best in the 6-10 range at his position during an era make the HOF?
     
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  12. ZeroPointZero

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    he better throw out about 3 Super Bowl rings for Brady then if that's the argument
     
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  13. Tobias

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    he got so mad at me last year for arguing that brady may not be the goat bc he sucked ass in the super bowl last year
     
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  14. bingbing

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    I'm torn because I think Rivers would have had similar success with the Giants, and Manning would have had Rivers stats with the Chargers, so I guess he is HOF because Archie was a cunt and wouldn't let him play for the Chargers. I always end up feeling like the Larry David Curb Your Enthusiasm gif when I try to decide, but I shouldn't judge him and Rivers against each other on everything, but it's hard not to.
     
  15. dtx

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    seriously joe namath was shit and he’s in

    there are several worse qbs in

    the nfl HOF is really easy on qbs
     
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  16. Clown Baby

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    When Nick Foles wins the super bowl next year and we all gonna start pretending like he’s a Hall of Famer
     
  17. Tobias

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    not like this CB
     
  18. Pelican Grove

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    They’re both so good.
     
  19. Pelican Grove

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    The Onion should do this

     
  20. dtx

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    how mad is everyone gonna be about HOF qb matt ryan
     
  21. Clown Baby

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    After watching Ricky Gervais’s golden globes monologue (another overrated crap sack), I’ve decided to pivot to edgy jokes. Triggered?
     
  22. Joe_Pesci

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    Their stats are pretty close actually

    Both with ypa of 7.0 and int rate of 3%. Eli's completion % is 61.9 and Aikman's is 61.5
     
  23. Doc Louis

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    Eli mainly trailing in pro bowl and all pro teams. But then every nfc quarterback not named Brees or Rodgers has that problem the last decade or so.
     
  24. Joe_Pesci

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    Aikman was never an all-pro unless I'm missing something on football-reference
     
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  25. laxjoe

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    SIAP
     
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  26. ashy larry

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    a lot of ppl are saying he’s the jeter of the NFL
     
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  27. dblplay1212

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    Nobody is saying he's top 10 at his position.
     
  28. LetItSoak

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    How many seasons during his career was he a top 5 qb in the league?
     
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  29. Gunners

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    Probably none but super bowls and being a quarterback trumps all.

    Sure, he's a Buckeye and I'm biased and didn't get close to the hall but who had the better career. Probably 100 more examples people could put out

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Gradishar
     
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  30. LetItSoak

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    From a statistical perspective, Eli is pretty close to Jameis Winston for their careers albeit in a smaller sample set for Winston.

    Completion %: 61.3 vs. 60.3
    Y/A: 7.7 vs 7.0
    Td %: 4.7 vs 4.5
    Int %: 3.5 vs 3.0
    Rating: 86.9 vs. 84.1

    Hard for me to square Hall of Fame and statistically comparable, if not slightly inferior, to Jameis Winston.
     
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  31. Daniel Ocean

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    lol
     
  32. DriveByBBQ

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    How many QBs have started and won multiple Super Bowls?

    12
    Bart Starr - HOF
    Roger Staubach - HOF
    Bob Griese - HOF
    Terry Bradshaw - HOF
    Jim Plunkett - Not in HOF
    Joe Montana - HOF
    Troy Aikman - HOF
    John Elway - HOF
    Peyton Manning - Pending
    Ben Roetheilsberger - Active
    Tom Brady - GOAT
    Eli Manning - possibly the new Jim Plunkett
     
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  33. Pelican Grove

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    Calling Eli the new Jim Plunkett doesn’t make sense. Plunkett was often the backup quarterback in his career.

    I think a more reasonable comparison would be Nick Foles, Trent Dilfer or someone like that. Not Eli.
     
  34. DriveByBBQ

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    yeah I was just joking because Plunkett is the only multiple winner not in the HOF. The others that aren’t already in are locks to get in outside of Eli apparently. I think Eli should 100% get in, no question.
     
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  35. 20/20/20/20

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    He was never close to the best player at his position.

    His entire career is basically two playoff runs. Which were incredible, by the way. Just doesn’t make him a hall of fame quarterback.

    He just wasn’t good enough.

    I’m pretty sure he will get into the HOF, I don’t think he is deserving, though.
     
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    Yeah well you aren’t good enough
     
  37. 20/20/20/20

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    I wasn’t even good enough to start at my high school.
     
  38. WC

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    Why is consecutive starts relevant to a HOF resume?

    It should say Eli was mediocre for 210 consecutive starts.
     
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  39. The Banks

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    If Bradshaw is in then Eli should be too
     
  40. dblplay1212

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    Past mistakes shouldn't be justification for future mistakes.
     
  41. Clown

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    Who is the best WR he played with in his prime (pretty OBJr). Plaxico Burress before he shot himself? Hakeem Nicks for 2 healthy seasons? Victor Cruz?
     
  42. laxjoe

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    that seems like a "will he?" rather than "should he?" answer, no?
     
  43. Tony Ray Bans

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    He went 117-117 and pretty average for a lot of his career. That said, he was an iron man who played a long time, had some huge huge postseason moments and won 2 rings. He will be in the Hall.
     
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  44. tylerdolphin

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    The question in the OP is really up to interpretation.

    Should Eli get in according to how the voters have voted in the past? Sure.

    Was Eli ever a sustained elite player? No. And I think that should matter whether or not it actually does.
     
  45. LetItSoak

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    He wasn't top 5 in his generation and was much closer to Flacco than he was to Brady. Peyton, Brees, Brady, Rodgers and Eli. One of those doesn't remotely belong.

    If Eli is in what do you do with Palmer, Rivers, Romo, Ryan etc who were all at least as good if not better over their long careers?
     
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  46. IrishLAX2

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    You’d have to change the previous criteria to not let him in. But I think they should.

    He was average at best - and downright bad- for the vast majority of his career.
     
  47. Whammy Business

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  48. Whammy

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    He doesnt deserve to but probably will because Manning
     
  49. zeberdee

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    Jerome Bettis?
     
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  50. 20/20/20/20

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    Rivers and Ryan will probably be in, and more deservedly so than Eli.

    Edit: nvm they won’t
     
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