Sports Card and Memorabilia thread

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  1. boone

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    Is there even a market for Cards anymore? In the 80 and 90's I know it was big because my dad was involved. I think he funded a 2 week Disney vacation on some O-Pee-Chee Gretzky rookie cards.
     
  2. FightingCock

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    Usually looking for rookies, autos, and jersey cards from what I can see. Whole lot of fluff in between
     
  3. CF3234

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    Unless you got stuff like Mickey Mantle rookie cards, the market completely bottomed out.
     
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  4. Fecta23

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    There is a huge market for cards. As long as:

    1. Its not late 80s/early 90s
    2. Its a rookie card graded, rookie autograph, superstar vet auto etc.
    3. Vintage

    For example earlier this year certain Ohtani rookie autographs were going for 5k plus, Tatum auto were going for 1k plus last year.
     
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  5. Fecta23

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  6. JRodMK1

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    I would disagree. The market for cards that our generation grew up on did bottom out. They were so overproduced that there was no way they could hold value. So, cards from the late 80's into the mid-to-late 90's don't hold a ton of value if they aren't graded. There is big value in PSA 10 copies of these cards though. I talked about the Griffey '89 Upper Deck the other day. An ungraded copy is worth $50, a PSA 10 is worth $450-500. There can be value in those cards but they have to be in great shape (9 or 10).
     
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  7. Duck70

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    My best card I got on my 8th birthday was Jerry Rice's 1986 Rookie Card. I loved that card.

    A family friend of ours throws the Celebrity Golf Tournament at Edgewood in Lake Tahoe and they invited my family that year. Jerry Rice is going to be there, so of course I bring that card hoping to get it signed.

    On the last day, Jerry is getting off the green and is just swarmed with people. I duck and weave up through people to the green and just stick my arm out waving the card. His manager is saying something like "ok he has to go" and turns to wave, sees my card, stops and says "huh, I haven't seen that card in a long time" and comes and signs it. Best day of a 8 year olds life.

    picture of not my card:
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  8. CF3234

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    that's kind of the point. A mint condition Griffey rookie card is only worth $450-500. That's probably 1/10th the value comparable cards had during the 80s-90s
     
  9. UKupNorth

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    Posted in the latest purchase thread, but saw this just got bumped. Haven't purchased this yet, but I am trying. Thoughts?

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  10. FightingCock

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    That's awesome
     
  11. JRodMK1

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    Simply awesome.
     
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  12. Jim Brockmire

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    Had a 55 Bowman Mantle that I went halves on with a friend. We flipped it 2 weeks later for a $100 profit for each of us.

    Bowman made some pretty cards back in the day.
     
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  13. Shunface

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    I’ve got a ton of baseball from 80’s to 90’s.

    Every Griffey base card from 89-99 and a few hundred inserts as well.

    I also have quite a few football autos of HoF and current stars and plenty of memorabilia.

    It’s addictive. I tend to go in spurts. Spend 2-3k on shit I don’t need and then stop buying for a few years. I honestly need to just unload most of it.
     
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  14. Shunface

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    I’ve got a Jordan auto’d jersey framed in the game room. Uncle was the golf pro at a country club in Chicago Jordan was a member of back in the day.
     
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  15. boone

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    that's what I was thinking.
     
  16. bigred77

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    I have several balls and stuff autographed, thought I was a collector as a kid, but never really got into it enough to have a whole lot of things
    The most random thing I have is a LA Laker duffel bag that is signed by Troy Aikman
    Story:
    My uncle was a big Lakers fan, and once when they were in Dallas playing the Mavs, he got invited to some fundraiser dinner where there were a bunch of celebrities and athletes like Reba McIntyre and Troy. Part of the fundraising was a raffle and Troy won a Lakers duffel bag.
    My uncle had been chatting up Troy at the event and had told him about his HS star football player nephew. Well as my uncle is walking to his car in the parking garage, Troy tossed the bag at him and said "hey, give this to that nephew of yours, tell him its from me"
    Uncle said "only if you sign it"
    they went to troy's car and he couldnt find a sharpie, only found a blue ink pen. So now I have a purple and gold Lakers duffel signed in blue ink by Troy Aikman.
     
  17. UKupNorth

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    I'm not necessarily an autograph/sports memorabilia collector, but more of an impulse buyer on things I think i can flip for a profit. Got a Joe Dimaggio autographed baseball, large Muhammad Ali autographed picture standing over Liston. Got a few irons in the fire right now hoping to get a few more things before Christmas.
     
  18. UKupNorth

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    Ended up purchasing the 1952 Bowman Mantle PSA 7. Pretty happy with the purchase price. Also bought a few other items at auction.

    Vintage Mickey Mantle Prototype Louisville Slugger Bat and a Vintage Mickey Mantle and Yogi Berra Yoo-Hoo advertisement.
     
  19. JRodMK1

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    Still one of the funnier cards I've seen:

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  20. Dirt Dirt McGirt

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    Collected when I was in middle school/HS, industry has gotten much worse since then.

    1. Player-worn shit has infected every product. All the "rookie jerseys" you see and now even some veteran stuff is player-worn i.e. they threw 25 jerseys on a guy at the NFL Rookie Premiere event and then chopped em up. They're worth nothing but still count as a "hit." Here's a picture of Mark Ingram in his jerseys at the event: [​IMG]

    2. Panini is literally the only game in town for NFL and most if not all of NBA as well. So they can push out tons of uncreative and expensive shit products. Plus NFL lost great products like Topps Chrome, Bowman Chrome, etc.

    3. They've mostly priced kids and casual collectors out of the market. Retail is trash but hobby is at least $50-60 for a decent box that will likely return maybe 30% back on your investment.

    buying singles is the smart/economical way to go now but opening packs was always my favorite part
     
  21. Fecta23

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    This is so real. Like, I know that buying boxes is a waste of money, I could have bought like three legit Acuna autos for what I bought chasing them, but the chase is whats fun. And yeah, Panini is the worst, at least Topps' relics are actually game worn most of the time.
     
  22. Tobias

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    my prized possession is a signed picture of kendall marshall and roy williams. got it in secret santa on here a few years back and i am totally blanking on the name please forgive me SS
     
  23. Tobias

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    a bit disappointed that Zack Zedalis isnt here bragging about his signed treon harris card smdh
     
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  24. JRodMK1

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    Spot-on post. Surprised I hadn't gone on a Panini rant yet but you did it for me. They're a monopoly and have bought out all the competitors we grew up on (Leaf, Upper Deck, etc.). They pump out so many shit products filled with 2nd-5th year 'sticker dumps' of players they had sticker auto's sitting around of. I opened some Prizm Basketball up recently and some of my auto hits were of Brook Lopez, Cody Zeller, Dwight Powell and Aaron McKie. That's shameful.

    But as you said, there's just something about opening a box of cards. You'll most likely take a bath on it but it is still so much damn fun.
     
  25. Fecta23

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    I really only collect Baseball even though its my third favorite sport because Panini is such trash.
     
  26. Dirt Dirt McGirt

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    Here's a few things I'd like to see:

    1. Much more on-card autos
    2. With jersey and patch cards, put the exact game the jersey came from on the back of the card. Would make it 1000x cooler to know the jersey was used in a particular game.
    3. Cut the rookie auto list down from "everyone who was eligible for the draft that year." There are so many hilariously obscure dudes in some of these products.
    4. Products that are heavy on veteran players instead of player-worn rookie shit and previously mentioned trash autos.
     
  27. Fecta23

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    I go back and forth on this. Because yeah, getting a Mike White autograph sucks, but it also makes getting the good ones way cooler and gives them more value.
     
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  28. THEBLUERAIDER

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    My dad owned a card shop when I was little, so I have a ton of stuff. Also a ton of autographs I posted in the old thread. Going to a card show Saturday to see what I can waste some money on. Have no desire for anything other than a few rookies.
     
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  29. bigred77

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    So how many of you, if you had millions to blow, would go after the t206 honus wagner card?
     
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  30. Zack Zedalis

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    It’s on the shelf in my office where I pray daily to never go through a time like that again. It has yet to work:Tebow:
     
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  31. Jim Brockmire

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    Many collectors are unaware of this little fact, but of the 50-some-odd examples of the card are known to exist, and almost all of them have the Sweet Caporal Factory 25 backing.

    A small number have the Sweet Caporal Factory 30 backing, and there's only 3 that have the Piedmont backing. If any of those ever went up for auction the number would be astronomical.

    I'd be thrilled just to see one in person, though if I were an owner it'd never see the light of day.
     
  32. bigred77

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    Is the gretsky one a Piedmont backing?
     
  33. Jim Brockmire

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    It is, but one of his partners admitted to altering the card by trimming corners IIRC.
     
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  34. bigred77

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    Yea, the wiki page says something about that
    I dont understand, he admitted to trimming the corners to increase value? How does that work? Trying to make them look less worn?
    But that card still sold for more $ later after he admitted that
     
  35. steamengine

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    I have every game day program from the first season of the Oilers. Still in near perfect condition. They are amazing.
     
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  36. Jim Brockmire

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    Sharper corners = higher grade.

    While the cards were all a standard size, remember that in 1910 there was pretty much no automation. There were going to be differing sizes if they were cut by a printer from a sheet. Essentially this dude took a crayon to touch up the Mona Lisa because he got greedy.

    The higher sales afterward (I imagine) were just the notoriety that surrounded that particular specimen coupled with inflation, the star power of its previous owner, and its natural increase in value as it continued to age while no other samples were made public for sale.
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  37. Jim Brockmire

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    Another curiosity that didn't dawn on me until someone much older pointed it out was the 1952 Topps Andy Pafko card.

    I couldn't understand why solid examples of a no-name Brooklyn Dodger used to fetch between 5k-10k.

    It was because the card is near impossible to find without creases. It was card #1 in the set. Kids would Rubber band their cards in numerical order, which would mean Pafko's card was always on top, hence it bore the brunt of the rubberband.

    I gotta get out of this thread before I start dropping money on cardboard that I dont need lol
     
  38. 40wwttamgib

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    I have an Oscar Robertson signed basketball.
     
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  39. burnttatertot

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    My fellow Gen X should remember Garbage Pail Kids from the mid 80's.
     
  40. Corky Bucek

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    Not Gen X, but was born in the mid 80s so I do remember them.
     
  41. bigred77

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    We used to sneak them around cause most of our parents didnt approve of them
     
  42. burnttatertot

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    Yeah, I would walk or ride my bike down to the 76 Station about a mile away to purchase my garbage pail kids. Always bought baseball cards at the same time so I could hide the garbage pail kids when I came home.

    Haven't been "home" in about 30 years so I stopped by on google tonight. I get the feeling they aren't selling garbage pail kids anymore.

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  43. Jim Brockmire

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    You've come a long way.
     
  44. Jim Brockmire

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  46. OpieT

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    Just went thru the Football Hall of Fame in Canton. First exhibit is a card collection someone has donated for display purposes. It has high grade PSA cards of all HoF members and a ton of interesting stuff. Pretty cool if you're in to this stuff and are by the HoF one day. I kept showing my daughter prices from eBay listings of some of the cards like the PSA10 Walter Payton.
     
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  47. FightingCock

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    In my stocking this morning
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  48. Jesse Palmer

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    Had a rerelease of this card when I was young and looked it up in the magazine and freaked out bc I looked at the original card estimate - not the new one.

    My parents freaked as well.
     
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  49. Jim Brockmire

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    One thing I've noticed about players of today and years past is how their signatures are so different.

    Mickey Mantle, Ted Williams, Joe D, the Babe, Hank. Beautiful penmanship, especially when they were younger and had steady hands.

    Many players of today look like their auto was done by a hyper 3 year old with a Sharpie.

    /getoffmylawn
     
  50. Corky Bucek

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    Looks like it’s 2 boxes of 2006 Bowman, 1 2004 Bowman Chrome, 1 2006 Bowman Chrome, 6 2005 Bowman Draft Picks and Prospects Aflac Redempton sets -Chrome parallel and 1 standard.

    Any idea on what I’m sitting on?
     
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