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  1. SugarShaun

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    He also has a track record of turning his players against him by year 3
     
  2. NYGator

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    Would you trade that for cups and titles? I think one is more important than the other.
     
  3. SugarShaun

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    You seem to be missing the point. You’re saying next season you’ll be upset if you don’t see moves to win major prizes. His track record says now is the time to win or the window is closed
     
  4. NYGator

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    The three year is my standard for success. if yours is different you are welcome to it, but he has been here just over a year now and people are acting as if he has two full years to judge him on. I think Jose gets us a cup and gets us back to the Champion's League. Subjective items like pissing off a player or more is not my concern unless he doesn't achieve the goals I expect him to. Chalk that up to a concern in achieving the goal, but it is not an absolute. We were in fucking freefall when he arrived and at least we are a serious team again despite the recent frustrations. His style of play is certainly going to subjectively piss people off. That aid, I do think he gets results with it when you judge it over time. I think when it works we all see it's merits. You can hate the way he plays. You can hate the way he acts at times. I don't think if anyone is being honest that you can objectively say that he sucks at doing his job, which is more than just game day tactics.
     
  5. SugarShaun

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    You could’ve just said you aren’t familiar with Jose’s 3rd season history rather than typing out all that bullshit that doesn’t have anything to do with the point I made.

    Let me see if this makes it any more clear. Your standard for success is irrelevant to the point.

    Jose typically comes in, shows improvement in his 1st season, wins silverware in 2nd season and it all falls apart in the 3rd season.

    Next year would be his 3rd season with Spurs
     
  6. NYGator

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    Or I can disagree with you. We are only just over a year into this, so talking about 3 years versus his third season is not really the same. This is also the first time I think he took over a team mid-season.
     
  7. Owsley

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    Again, we’ve given up 8 goals after the 75’ which have cost us 11 points. It’s painfully obvious we don’t have the players to play his dinosaur system, yet he still does it because he knows nothing else. Only Brighton and Sheffield have dropped more points from a winning position than we have.

    He says our players aren’t good enough individually yet still sets them up to fail by not adjusting his tactics to something more suitable for our obvious weakness at the back. That’s madness.

    And no one gives a shit about the League Cup.
     
  8. Owsley

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    Sorry, I’m kinda fired up right now. 1 win in 7 will do that I guess.
     
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  9. NYGator

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    I do. Any team that hasn't won anything in as long as we have, should.
     
  10. NYGator

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    We all are. I just like to try to provide a bit more perspective when things look bad.
     
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  11. SugarShaun

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    I care very much about the Manchester City cup
     
  12. TheFreak55

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    I defended and defended and defended Jose, it only makes it more painful in the end. Ask Wu
     
  13. SugarShaun

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    Sorry, I try not to be a dick in other team threads but often that’s where discussions actually happen on TSB and I can’t pass on Jose talk.
     
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  14. Owsley

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  16. timo

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    Spurs are actually pretty talented, and shouldn't be 1-3-2 since the Arsenal game.

    Against clubs with a pulse, Spurs haven't played really well since Man City.

    Some of that is dumb luck, maybe some tired legs in a match or 2 in December... but most of it is on the manager. He has to be better or there's no chance they finish in the top 4.
     
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  17. NYGator

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    over a 6 game period he hasn't gotten the job done is not the same as declaring he sucks. If that were the case then every manager of the top teams suck this year.
     
  18. Spontaneous Cumbustion

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    Jose is trash. The sooner we get rid of him the better. Pretty much everyone in the world knows he’s washed up besides Levy and NYGator.
     
  19. NYGator

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    Coming from our most emo fan...thank you.
     
  20. Owsley

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    Good article from The Athletic: Mourinho must share blame with Spurs players for blowing leads

     
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  21. PeterGriffin

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    Jack Clarke loaned to Stoke for the remainder of the season.
     
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  22. timo

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    Good article.

    Re yesterday, it's 100% on Jose to make a change once Fulham started to carve up Sanchez and Dier (and Winks on a couple of occasions) with powerful direct runs. Go 3 in the back, move Sissoko into a more central role, etc. I don't know, I'm not a football manager. But it was clear Fulham's changes in personnel and tactics were causing mayhem in the Spurs' back. Jose did nothing until they scored - there's no excusing that.

    Personally, right after the half, I would have pulled Winks, moved Sissoko back, and added an attacker to try to get a second goal -- make your opponent react to you rather than reacting to their changes -- but whatever.
     
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  23. Dick Dollars

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    Part of the problem with that approach is that we don't have another reliable goal scorer on the team, Dele, who can't even make the bench consistently, has seen his form drop off the last couple of seasons. Bale, Moura, Bergwijn, Lamela, and Vinicius have what, 2 PL goals between them so far?
     
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  24. Owsley

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    We have 7 goals in our entire squad outside of Sonny and Kane :laugh:
     
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  25. Owsley

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  26. timo

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    gonna suck when they demand out come June
     
  27. timo

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  28. NYGator

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    a shame the performance went to waste. Even looking at these clips make you realize if Son was even half his normal self we win this game easily.

     
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  29. Owsley

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    Please
     
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  30. broXcore

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    we need a motivated eriksen in the squad. make it happen.
     
  31. Gunners

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    You need a manager that doesn't play counterattack every fucking game no matter the team

    Sorry boys, I mean no ill will
     
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  32. Ace Boogie

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    At least we know what we need.
     
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  33. SugarShaun

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    Is he still good though?
     
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  34. broXcore

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    idk man
     
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  35. timo

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    I'd rather see Jose trotting Eriksen out there at 75 minutes needing a goal than Erik Lamela.
     
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  36. Owsley

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    Compared to our other options, yes.
     
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  37. Dick Dollars

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  38. PeterGriffin

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    5 atb for the worst team in the league. Should be fun.
     
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  39. Ace Boogie

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    Can't wait to hold on and give up a goal in the 86th
     
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  40. Ace Boogie

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    But yay.
     
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  41. Owsley

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    Time to pack it in!
     
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  42. timo

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    Serge!
     
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  43. Hogger

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    That was too easy. I’ll take it.
     
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  44. Hugo Boss

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    Oh no. We've scored too soon
     
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  45. Ace Boogie

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    Come the fuck on Son.
     
  46. NYGator

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    Sonnys form the last two..but his finishing had to come back to earth.
     
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  47. PeterGriffin

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    How cool would it be if we scored early and often in one match? We're tops in early goals but we like to spread them out too much. We can pack it in once we're up by 3 or 4.
     
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  48. Hogger

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    That Ndombele side footed pass down the right side was beautiful.
     
  49. timo

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    what the hell was that from Hugo?