Star Trek: Discovery

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  1. Butthead

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    that mirror universe interlude was pointless
     
  2. brahmanknight

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    Prob, but I enjoyed every minute of it. Well, at least until the last 10 min of it.

    Even if she is a one trick pony, I already miss Phillipa ( until Section 31 airs ).
     
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    I shouldn't have liked anything about that episode, but it somehow worked.
     
  4. CaneKnight

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    It's like they all got retarded and made all the wrong decisions to further the plot it honestly annoyed me
     
  5. Butthead

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    This show is getting hard to watch now that the expanse is back
     
  6. brahmanknight

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    I did like the cute, little repair robots deciding to join the resistance at the end of the episode.
     
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    I have no idea how to feel about that ending. I hope Osyyra isn't dead and they're really just dropping Saru like that???????????
     
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    Just started the series. Dumb question that's already been answered, but don't want to look through here to avoid spoilers. Is this in the regular timeline or the stupid movie timeline? Just want to know how pissy I should get at the weird continuity shit (made more striking having just watched Enterprise).
     
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    It’s technically in the timeline but they leave the timeline....
     
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  10. Butthead

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    they reference the Narada fucking with the timeline at some point in the later seasons but it's not relevant really

    honestly as a diehard star trek fan, this series is disjointed and not great. there are good parts, though. visually it's awesome. most of the characters are good, too, but there is something missing
     
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  11. Butthead

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    there are also a ton of stupid NCIS-tier one-liners.

    i didn't finish the latest season because the future storyline was completely botched :twocents:
     
  12. billdozer

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    I liked the future storyline for the most part. It was something new at least.
     
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    im only three episodes in but that’s kind of the feeling I get. Love how good the show looks, some of the stories seem interesting, but it’s weirdly bothering to me why all the Klingons/their ships look super different from how they looked in Enterprise and TOS and I know that the story’s going to go kinda crazy at some point

    whatever, it’s a pandemic, not like I have anything better to do
     
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    You didn’t miss much in those last few episodes. I liked the concept of the jump forward, but execution fell pretty flat imo.

    Can’t say I didn’t enjoy it as a whole, despite its serious flaws.

    On to Picard, I guess
     
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  15. Butthead

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    I wouldn't hold my breath for Picard :twocents:
     
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    that’s a shame
     
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  17. Butthead

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    i'm trying not to ruin it, but i only lasted 4 episodes. ymmv
     
  18. Butthead

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    I will finish this season and probably Picard eventually, just like I eventually finished Enterprise after the Temporal Cold War weirdness

    The jump forward still has great potential. The Federation still exists, but it took warp travel totally for granted. That's really where its power came from, not from the Prime Directive or any other highminded Federation policy. If some pirates started fucking with a vulnerable Federation world in the TNG era, a Nebula-class starship would be in their ass in less than a day. Rebuilding the Federation is a great story :idk:
     
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    I wish they gave the major plot lines more time to breathe. imo DS9's success came from the time that it took to tell the Dominion War saga, which allowed a ton of different aspects to be probed at length over the course of multiple seasons, most particularly what lines the high-minded Federation would be willing to blur in the name of victory. Let these stories breathe instead of turning Burnham into a superhero at the end of every episode so that she's given another chance to be outrageously insubordinate in the next one.
     
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    That's the biggest problem with Discovery that the writers seemingly don't understand. Trek has been and always will be about the entire crew. Having it focused on one person isn't good story telling. Seems like everyone they've given Trek to from the writers of discovery to JJ don't get what people loved about star trek. They're just trying to cater to some large audience that quite frankly just isn't there. They need to get it through their heads this aint Star Wars which btw isn't sci fi in the first place.
     
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    it was shitty
     
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    Watching Picard really brings into focus how from Enterprise on forward the franchise has relied on existential crises to drive plot in its series. It’s fine I guess in the movie context but it’s okay to lower the stakes a bit when you’ve got time to develop your characters and tell an interesting story instead of an Important One.

    I have no idea what Raffi’s deal is, or why I should care, but maybe I would if I saw her character develop. Or maybe I’d feel a connection to Airiam if they explained what her deal was sooner than literally the same episode they killed her.
     
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  23. Butthead

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    I guess there's a new season? I saw it's rated TV-MA which is a little weird
     
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    Saw the first episode (I think it’s the only one out). It’s ok. They seem to be somewhat self-aware of how OP they’ve made Burnham in the pantheon of lead characters; we’ll see if they do anything about it. They’re making a 31st century USS Voyager, so that’s kind of cool.
     
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    I'm getting the sense there may be a Picard/Discovery crossover this season, if for no other reason then they are airing portions of the season simultaneously.
     
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    Update for all interested: this season of Discovery is bad
     
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  27. brahmanknight

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    Yeah, I kinda gave up on this season at ep 4
     
  28. CaneKnight

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    I binged it in the background while working. It's not even close to the struggle that the first two seasons were. At the very least they expanded their focus on the crew, but they still lack the creativity and not everything has to be universe destroying to drive the plot.

    With that said WHY THE FUCK DID THEY TURN TREK INTO A DAMN SOAP OPERA????? Driving me nuts with that.
     
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    Every episode, despite running as a serial format, can be reduced to 1) everyone needs therapy and 2) Burnham is a god. Both of which are, in moderation, all well and good but it’s like they’re in a time loop where each new episode reverts them all emotionally to where they were last episode so they can apply both 1 and 2 to the latest lurch in the story.

    Better effort from Picard S2 so far but it could go either way.
     
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  31. CaneKnight

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    Lol Stacy Abrams? Really

    That tells me everything I need to know about the people doing this show.


    Thankfully Picard has been really good 3 episodes.
     
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    Watched the first two seasons. Worth circling back and getting caught up?
     
  33. bwi2

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    Absolutely not
     
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    No

    unless you just want a Star Trek fix In that case just watch lower decks and season 2 of Picard has been great so far
     
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    So in Picard, why doesn't Guinen remember Picard from when they were in the West with Mark Twain?
     
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    Update: it sucks ass, do not watch
     
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    Anson Mount's Pike is the only thing they haven't fucked up yet so I'll give it a shot
     
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    through two episodes, this is classic trek, and honestly a lot more enjoyable to watch
     
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    I saw someone call Burnham female space jesus and I honestly couldn't refute it
     
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    just watched the premier and thought it was fantastic
     
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    Picard stinks :(
     
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    There have been some really good individual performances though. Shaw (that borg story was great) stands out, Raffi and Worf as well. I mean, I've enjoyed this season better than the first two. Gonna let it play out, it's been at the very least entertaining.
     
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    Ok I'm like halfway through episode 9 of Picard and so close to turning it off this is infuriating and just plain bad. They were actually doing alright, then crashed the plane into the damn runway.

    It's literally the worst episode of star trek I've ever seen and man I've sat through some BADDDD episodes of star trek. This is offensive

    At this point, I'm convinced Lower Decks and Strange New Worlds were happy accidents.


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    Shaw was actually a great character and they just killed him for no other reason than plot advancement to eventually put Seven in the chair. Fuck these people who write this shit. If you were going to fucking do that just kill him in the fucking nebula
     
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    I thought Picard season 3 actually ended up being pretty good. Lost it's way a bit in the middle, but ended strong.

    Post credit scene was dumb though
     
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    Had basically the opposite reaction. It ended with a rip off of Harry Potter and with a reshoot of the scene that closed TNG. The resolution of the assimilation made no sense and they didn’t even try to explain it. They made a dump truck the -G. I thought it was strongest in the middle but the beginning and end were trash.