Summer 2024 Transfer Window

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  1. WillySaliba

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    Fuck Koeman, he's getting his bag.
     
  2. RockHardJawn39

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    Did he just talk shit on players the whole time?
     
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  3. chuckmasterflex

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  4. aisle seven

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    Saudi teams are splashing cash for a bunch of younger talent now. Marcos Leonardo was signed by Benfica last year for 10m, scored 7 goals and was sold for 40m to a Saudi team.
     
  5. WillySaliba

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    That was a pretty smooth transition out of the implication.
     
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  6. aisle seven

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    I mean we suck and there are plenty of opportunities to make fun of Chelsea’s transfer business but this one seems fine in the big scheme of things.
     
  7. NYGator

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    He’s Dutch. Did you ever watch Ted Lasso? They just say their truth out loud without filters.
     
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  8. NYGator

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    No it doesn’t, lol.
     
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  9. hood b. goode

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    winijaldum went to the euros and he plays in saudi
     
  10. aisle seven

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    Okay, I’ll bite. What’s wrong with this transfer?
     
  11. NYGator

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    You can't be serious.
     
  12. aisle seven

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    100%
     
  13. PeterGriffin

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    One scored a goal himself every other match. The other produced one assist every seven matches. I won’t speculate that Chelsea is doing dirty shit with Saudis but the math doesn’t math on an increase in Angelo’s fee.
     
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  14. aisle seven

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    Saudi teams are clearly having to overpay for talent and Leonardo’s fee went up 4x. Angelo is young and the fee went up from what Chelsea paid but it doesn’t strike me as a gross overpayment for a promising teenager. Some of that is just the Saudi league tax.

    This is miles off from Chelsea offloading a bunch of washed players on high wages to the SPL.
     
  15. NYGator

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    Start with why is Chelsea able to do deals with Saudi? Notice, not every club does and can. Yes, 19, but he has done nothing to show that he is more valuable now then when Chelsea bought him to actually pay them more than what they signed him for. His production is virtually nothing in 120ish games. The market has not gone up in the past couple of years. If anything it has contracted with less buyers throughout other European leagues. If you don't see that your club is engaged in Ponzi tactics, I am no sure what to tell you, but they absolutely are. Oh, but yes this one deal is all good...
     
  16. bwi2

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    under no circumstances do you have to hand it to Chelsea but unless you can point out where there’s been some collusion/self-dealing, you can’t blame Chelsea for taking advantage of the existence of some other league where money doesn’t matter. What are they supposed to do, tell the Saudis they reject the valuation as too high?
     
  17. aisle seven

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    Getting yourself all frothed up over this deal seems like a bit much. I’ve already said that Chelsea’s transfer “strategy” is a joke (both incomings and outgoings) but this is well down the list of deals that are even worthy of a conversation.
     
  18. NineteenNine

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    Yeah, shady or not, you don’t refuse money because you think someone is over paying.
     
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  19. Andy Reocho

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    They should be overpaying on wages to get the talent to commit. They shouldn’t have to overpay on fee unless there’s shenanigans or buying a player the selling club doesn’t want to sell(not happening on this one)
     
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  20. NoleNBlue (Ret.)

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    He’s not the first to say that about Gravenberch. Kid has all the talent in the world. Unfortunately, he knows it.
     
  21. NYGator

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    LOL, frothed? Not at all.
     
  22. NYGator

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    I don't think it is a matter of refusing as much as a matter of collusion.
     
  23. NYGator

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    This.
     
  24. bwi2

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    what is the alleged collusion here? Overpay for this random 19 year old now and we’ll let you overpay for some random 29 year old later?
     
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  25. NYGator

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    I doubt that is it. May even have nothing to do with football.
     
  26. bwi2

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    like what?
     
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  27. NYGator

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    something to do with this…

    https://m.allfootballapp.com/news/E...rabia-for-meeting-with-Al-Hilal-chief/3113461

    PIF are understood to have billions of pounds of assets managed by Clearlake, the American-based private equity firm who bought 60 per cent of Chelsea in a £4.25billion takeover last summer.

    PIF announced it will take control of four leading Saudi teams this week, also acquiring majority stakes in Al-Nassr - where Cristiano Ronaldo currently plays his football - and Al-Ahli.
     
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  28. clemsonvianj

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    Ron is Dutch, that's what they do
     
  29. Iron Mickey

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    Chelsea are going to do a lot more of buying a player, loaning him, and selling him without there ever being minutes. It's an obvious part of the dumb but entirely comprehensible asset speculation shit they're doing.
     
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  30. WillySaliba

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    I think the most problematic part is the path. It’s essentially money laundering.
     
  31. NineteenNine

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    At some point, the players will start refusing to be a part of said scheme.
     
  32. WillySaliba

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    They will also play far less matches and VAR will work in England.
     
  33. bwi2

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    Again, this doesn’t begin to show why the Saudis would give Chelsea a sweetheart deal. Clearlake is a service provider and the PIF can move its money around if they’re displeased with Clearlake.

    Just look at LIV Golf. The Saudis just acquire the assets they can without any real grounding in market value. There doesn’t have to be anything insidious or underhanded about it (from the Chelsea side).
     
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  34. NYGator

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    other than they were in violation of PSR rules coming into the season and somehow finds parties (that just happen to be close business connections) to bail them out by paying above market value for assets. This isn't hard, but I am done shitting up the thread.
     
  35. bwi2

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    “Hi, PIF - it’s us, Clearlake. We manage a lot of money for you, remember?

    As it turns out, we manage Chelsea, which is in a world of hurt due to asset mismanagement. Care to throw us a bone?”
     
  36. WillySaliba

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    Guess it’s just a safer assumption to assume Saudi acts on the up and up. Got it.
     
  37. Andy Reocho

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    I don’t think the scenario presented by NYGator is as far fetched as your acting :twocents:

    There are plenty of reasons they(PIF) would take part, namely money and control.
     
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  38. NYGator

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    what gave it away...the fact that they were just barely acquaintances in his example after sharing business dealings together worth billions of dollars, LOL?
     
  39. bwi2

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    ah yes, the control that comes with allowing your partner to realize a $6 million profit but not with owning billions of dollars of assets comprising an actually measurable amount of the controlling company’s ledger
     
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  40. bwi2

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    I mean wow, that’s the kind of shit that leads to a midseason friendly in Jeddah
     
  41. Andy Reocho

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    Whatever you say lawyer man
     
  42. bwi2

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    you’ve spent the better part of two years whinging about Saudi jokes and the second Chelsea benefits from their stupid largess you’ve got the Charlie Kelly wire diagram out
     
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  43. Andy Reocho

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    All I said was it isn’t as far fetched as you seem to think. I’m not accusing them of anything.
     
  44. soulfly

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    Think Man City should be drawing the most ire in this regard :idk:
     
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  45. WillySaliba

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    I’ll allow it.
     
  46. Jimmy the Saint

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    “The young Brazilian is really excited by the project asset speculation scheme.”
     
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  47. BleedinGreen

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    Chelsea (who Clearlake only own 60% of) are a tiny portion of Clearlake’s assets (about 1-3% of 80 billion) and the PIFs investments in Clearlake are all quite small (~5%). The transfer fees are rounding errors in the schemes of these organizations.

    This is dumb people spending money they’ve found in their couch cushions, not some worldwide money laundering scheme.
     
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