Tennessee Titans Thread

Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by Pharoh, May 1, 2015.

  1. Daddy Rabbit

    Daddy Rabbit But the second mouse gets the cheese
    Tennessee VolunteersAtlanta BravesNashville PredatorsGrateful DeadBonnarooPoker

  2. Cornelius Suttree

    Cornelius Suttree I am a landmine
    Donor TMB OG

    Mannnn fuck that dude

    Hopefully Mariota makes it through those first four games
  3. animal_mother

    animal_mother Well-Known Member
    Clemson TigersTennessee TitansLiverpool

    I’m tired of Ostarine...
  4. Fecta23

    Fecta23 Well-Known Member
    Oregon DucksSeattle MarinersPortland Trail Blazers

    Was really hoping for Dennis Kelly at RT and Lewan at LT ( obvi). This really sucks.
  5. Cornelius Suttree

    Cornelius Suttree I am a landmine
    Donor TMB OG

    Travis Haney left The Athletic and Joe Rexrode left the Tennessean. Hopefully Rexrode starts writing for The Athletic. John Glennon is worth a follow on Twitter for sure if you want Titans updates

    some articles he has posted in the past week over the next couple posts

    Titans depth chart analysis: Three-receiver set, battle at right guard and where are the rookies

    From August 5th

    The release of the Titans’ first unofficial depth chart on Monday led to the annual dance between coach and observers.

    Media who’ve been following competitive Titans battles at certain positions seek insight into potential winners.

    Titans coach Mike Vrabel downplays any such significance.

    “Let’s not put too much credence into this depth chart,” Vrabel said.

    Still, one would have to assume Vrabel didn’t assign the names and positions arbitrarily, so it’s an interesting first glimpse at what the Titans might look like — even if things are likely to change.

    Some things to keep in mind before we break down each position:

    • Vrabel chose to use a three wide-receiver offense for his first unofficial depth chart. The Titans have used a lot of two tight-end formations over the past few seasons, but the addition of slot receiver Adam Humphries — and the departure of blocking tight end Luke Stocker — may change that this year. “I think we could be in three receivers and four wide receivers, could be in three tight ends,” Vrabel said. “That (three-receiver lineup) was kind of when I was looking at the practice schedule, that’s what I thought today.”
    • Vrabel did not list a single rookie on the first or second team. That’s typical. But you can certainly expect rookies like guard Nate Davis and safety Amani Hooker to be higher in the rotation than they are on the depth chart. Wide receiver A.J. Brown and defensive tackle Jeffery Simmons still have to get back on the field before we know what to expect from them.
    Wide receiver: Corey Davis, Cody Hollister, Jalen Tolliver, Anthony Ratliff-Williams

    Commentary: No surprises at this spot. It’s been a good training camp for Davis, highlighted by a pair of memorable one-handed catches. He’ll look to ramp up his stats again this year after making some big steps in the right direction last year.

    Tight end: Delanie Walker, Jonnu Smith, MyCole Pruitt, Anthony Firkser, Cole Wick, Ryan Hewitt, Parker Hesse

    Commentary: Walker said last week he doesn’t think he’s quite back to 100 percent, but he’s getting closer. Smith has yet to practice in training camp. Pruitt could provide blocking ability now that Luke Stocker is gone. Firkser had a lot of passes thrown his way in the scrimmage Saturday, but surprisingly dropped a couple of tosses in the end zone.

    Left tackle: Taylor Lewan, Dennis Kelly, Austin Pasztor, A.T. Hall.

    Commentary: We’ve seen Kelly perform well at right tackle, but can he be as effective at left tackle during Lewan’s four-game suspension? Pasztor is a nice depth addition (43 career starts), but he’s only played two games in the past two seasons.

    Left guard: Rodger Saffold, Aaron Stinnie, David Quessenberry

    Commentary: The Titans will expect big things from Saffold, a huge free-agent signing who’s previously worked under a Matt LaFleur system. Stinnie and Quessenberry have played in a combined three NFL games.

    Center: Ben Jones, Corey Levin, Hroniss Grasu

    Commentary: This is a spot that theoretically could see some change if the Titans feel the need to try different things. Levin has taken some first-team reps at center, and Jones has played some right guard as well.

    Right guard: Kevin Pamphile, Jamil Douglas, Nate Davis

    Commentary: This is likely the most competitive roster spot at present. All three players have taken first-team snaps at various times, as has Jones. When Vrabel said he wanted to let some offensive line spots play out for a while during camp, this is one he had in mind.

    “I think there’s some guys in there that are really starting to improve,” Vrabel said. “We’ll kind of let that go. That’s why we play the preseason games. We’ll try to get the guys an equal amount of reps and get them all in there with that first unit.”

    Right tackle: Jack Conklin, Tyler Marz, Cody Conway

    Commentary: I’ve been impressed by Conklin’s work in training camp, especially considering he did not participate in any of the OTAs or mini-camp. The question remains how well he fits in a zone-blocking scheme. Kelly would be the top replacement here, but he’ll be manning the left tackle spot for four games.

    Wide receiver: Adam Humphries, Darius Jennings, Kalif Raymond, Papi White

    Commentary: Humphries looks to be on the same page already with Mariota, a good sign. Jennings has improved his pass-catching, also a good thing since he needs to be more than just a kick returner. Raymond has been one of camp’s nice surprises, a little guy who’s shown a great ability to get open. He can return kicks as well.

    Wide receiver: Taywan Taylor, Tajae Sharpe, A.J. Brown, Tanner McEvoy.

    Commentary: This was probably the biggest head-scratcher on the unofficial depth chart. Sharpe has had an excellent training camp and has been running with the first team — ahead of Taylor — for the most part.

    So why list Taylor ahead of Sharpe?

    “It must have been just today, that that was something we wanted to line up in,” Vrabel said.

    I think in a perfect world, the Titans would like to have Taylor as a starter, since he has the speed that defensive backs must account for — more so than any of the other Titans’ receivers. But there’s no getting around the fact that Sharpe is a reliable target for Mariota, especially on third downs, and especially against zone defenses.

    “He’s got good instincts, good awareness on the field,” Vrabel said Monday. “I don’t think those are things that can necessarily be taught. I think that’s a feel thing … The quarterbacks trust him to be where he’s supposed to be and to catch it.”

    It was good to see Brown at least back on the field Monday. But he’s still not practicing, and one has to wonder how much impact all this will have on his rookie season.

    Quarterback: Marcus Mariota, Ryan Tannehill

    Commentary: Mariota has looked good at times during camp, not so good during other times. But it’s really hard to make any judgments before the regular season. Tannehill is far and away the best backup of the Mariota era, and he looked good running the two-minute drill with the first team Monday.

    Running back: Derrick Henry, Dion Lewis, David Fluellen, Jeremy McNichols, Dalyn Dawkins, Alex Barnes

    Commentary: Henry was injured on the first day of camp and hasn’t returned. Will that slow him down in the early going this season? One of the best battles for a potential roster spot is between McNichols and Dawkins, two smaller backs with plenty of talent. Dawkins has great quickness, McNichols is an excellent pass-catcher.

    Defensive end: Brent Urban, Frank Herron, Jeffery Simmons, Amani Bledsoe

    Commentary: If the 6-7, 300-pound Urban can stay healthy — and that’s a big if — I think he can be a difference-maker on the line. He’s already helped bump Austin Johnson into a second-team position. The big unanswered question is when Simmons, the team’s first-round pick, will be healthy and available.

    Nose tackle: DaQuan Jones, Austin Johnson, Braxton Hoyett

    Commentary: Johnson started 9 of 16 games last season, so he’s good added depth here or behind Urban.

    Defensive tackle: Jurrell Casey, Matt Dickerson, Isaiah Mack, Chris Nelson.

    Commentary: Casey continues to rehab from injury. Dickerson remains somewhat of an unknown quantity, as the former undrafted free agent only played in three games last season.

    Outside linebacker: Cameron Wake, Sharif Finch, D’Andre Walker, Jordan Williams

    Commentary: Finch will likely wind up playing more in the team’s base defense, because of his ability to set the edge, and also to help limit Wake’s snaps. The fresher the Titans keep Wake, the more havoc he can wreak as a pass-rusher.

    Inside linebacker: Rashaan Evans, Wesley Woodyard, Riley Bullough, David Long, Jr.

    Commentary: Woodyard had another excellent season last year as a primary starter. But as well as Evans played in the second half of last year, there was little doubt the former first-round pick would move into the starting role. Woodyard will still see plenty of snaps.

    Inside linebacker: Jayon Brown, Daren Bates, Nigel Harris

    Commentary: Brown had a huge breakout in his second season, leaving Titans fans hungry for more in 2019. Bates’ strength is as a special teamer, so don’t expect him to get a lot of snaps.

    Outside linebacker: Harold Landry III, Kamalei Correa, LaTroy Lewis, Derick Roberson

    Commentary: This looks to be a solid spot for the Titans. Landry looks bigger and better than last year, and Correa has a solid dose of experience. Roberson is challenging for a roster spot as well.

    Cornerback: Logan Ryan, Adoree Jackson, Tye Smith, Kareem Orr

    Commentary: It seems to me that Jackson has actually lined up more often with the first team when the Titans have been in base defense, with Ryan added to the equation in nickel. That said, teams play more nickel than base anyway, so all three will spend much of the time on the field together. I thought we’d see more from Smith in camp than we have so far.

    Strong safety: Kenny Vaccaro, Dane Cruikshank, LaDarius Wiley

    Commentary: Rookie Amani Hooker has looked good so far in camp, so he might actually be the top backup at both strong and free safety. Cruikshank is a quality special-teams player.

    Free Safety: Kevin Byard, Joshua Kalu, Amani Hooker, JoJo Tillery

    Commentary: As I mentioned early on, Vrabel rarely puts rookies on the first or second team, if he can avoid it. But Hooker is getting a lot of playing time in camp, so he’d likely be the top replacement here.

    Cornerback: Malcolm Butler, LeShaun Sims, Kenneth Durden

    Commentary: The Titans are pretty deep at corner overall, with Sims a quality fourth corner and Durden getting plenty of action at training camp as well.

    Kicker: Ryan Succop, Austin Barnard, Brett Kern

    Commentary: Vrabel said Monday he expects Succop to be ready for the regular season. If he’s not, it would be hard to imagine Barnard being the guy. He was a punter and kickoff specialist in college, not a field-goal kicker.

    Punter: Brett Kern, Austin Barnard

    Commentary: Kern just seems to get better as he ages. There’s no reason to believe he’ll regress this year.

    Punt returner: Humphries, Jackson, Raymond.

    Commentary: This is an interesting situation. Humphries doesn’t have the explosive capabilities of Jackson, but Jackson struggled with decision-making and holding onto the football during parts of last season. It sounds as if Vrabel will alternate the two this season, perhaps depending on whether the Titans are trying to break a big return or simply in search of a safe catch.

    “I’m sure Adoree is going to catch punts for us,” Vrabel said. “I’m sure Humphries is going to catch punts for us. There’s only so many guys I can put in each column. They’re both going to catch punts, I guarantee it, through the course of the season.”

    Kick returner: Jennings, Jackson, Lewis.

    Commentary: Jennings led the league with an average of 31.7 yards per return last season, but he’ll still have to battle for a roster spot.
    Chewie likes this.
  6. Cornelius Suttree

    Cornelius Suttree I am a landmine
    Donor TMB OG

    from this morning

    Projecting the Titans’ 53-man roster: Kalif Raymond shakes up things at receiver with big night
    PHILADELPHIA – It comes as no surprise that competition at the Titans’ wide receiver position is one of the most heated on the team.

    The thought heading into the preseason opener Thursday was that the big battle was primarily at the base of the depth chart, a fight between Kalif Raymond and Darius Jennings for a potential final spot.

    But based on what happened at receiver in the Titans’ 27-10 win over Philadelphia — a great night for Raymond, a so-so night for Jennings and a troubling night for Taywan Taylor — the outlook now might be a little different.

    Raymond did nearly everything the Titans asked of him, catching a team-high six passes — on eight targets — for a team-high 80 yards. He added three punt returns for 35 yards (including one 27-yard scamper) and one kick return for 24 yards.

    One of Raymond’s receptions (a 10-yarder) set up the Titans with a first-and-goal at Philadelphia’s 1-yard line. Another was a 21-yard catch over the middle, one in which the 5-8, 182-pounder took a wallop and still held onto the ball.

    “I just think you go out there and play, and pray the opportunities come,” Raymond said afterward. “Thankfully they put me in the position where a lot of them did come my way, so I’m grateful for it.

    “I think I’m staying in the present moment, not thinking about what’s going to happen at the end of camp or at the end of the first game. Just playing that practice, that down and that play, and if I can take control of the present moment, I’ll be all right.”

    Added Titans coach Mike Vrabel: “I just think there’s a toughness to him, there’s a quality to him. When you watch him, he loves football. We’re trying to get as many guys around us each and every day that love football. It makes it fun to coach. It makes it easy to coach.”

    Taylor’s evening, meanwhile, was as miserable as Raymond’s was memorable.

    The third-year pro dropped two of the five passes thrown to him (one in the end zone) and inexplicably failed to keep two feet inbounds on what should have been another catch.

    “Yeah, I think at the end of the day, I’ve just got to make a play,” Taylor said. “It’s more about making those plays when the opportunity presents itself. You’ve got to just keep your head in the game, and just stay focused and level-headed. That’s what it’s about.”

    Jennings, meanwhile, caught one pass for nine yards, hauled in a tough two-point conversion pass and returned one kick for 22 yards.

    Will what happened Thursday change which players make the final roster?

    See what we have to say below.

    Here’s the complete 53-man projection following the first preseason contest:

    Who’s on the team
    QB (2): Marcus Mariota, Ryan Tannehill

    It would be a surprise if the Titans kept three quarterbacks on the roster. But it’s not totally out of the question that Logan Woodside would stick. He looked good against the Eagles (15-for-20, 138 yards and two touchdowns), and he’s currently the only quarterback under contract beyond this season.

    RB (3): Derrick Henry, Dion Lewis, David Fluellen

    Henry looks like he’ll be at full strength before the regular season. But there are still questions at this position: Is Fluellen, who left practice early Tuesday, completely healthy? Will second-year back Jeremy McNichols, who posted a 37-yard run against the Eagles, find a way to make the squad?

    WR (6): Corey Davis, Tajae Sharpe, Adam Humphries, Taywan Taylor, AJ Brown, Kalif Raymond.

    Sure, it was just one preseason game. But Raymond is going to be very tough to keep off the roster based on his performance. He has a knack for getting open. If he keeps it up, the last roster spot may turn into a battle between Jennings and Taylor.,

    TE (4): Delanie Walker, Jonnu Smith, Anthony Firkser, MyCole Pruitt

    This is another position with room for change. There’s always a chance the Titans could choose to stick with just three tight ends. Or, if they go with four, Ryan Hewitt — who can also play H-back — could be the pick over Pruitt.

    OL (9*): – Jack Conklin, Dennis Kelly, Rodger Saffold, Kevin Pamphile, Nate Davis, Ben Jones, Corey Levin, Austin Pasztor, Jamil Douglas. (Taylor Lewan, suspended first four games)

    Aaron Stinnie is certainly a possibility since the Titans kept him on the roster last season. But Douglas started Thursday and is getting more reps. It’s also possible the Titans could keep just eight, knowing Lewan will be back after four games.

    DL (5*): Brent Urban, DaQuan Jones, Jurrell Casey, Austin Johnson, Matt Dickerson. (Jeffery Simmons, PUP)

    This isn’t a deep position for the Titans, especially since Casey is still recovering from knee surgery. So there’s still a chance for guys such as Isaiah Mack, Frank Herron or Amani Bledsoe to make some noise.

    OLB (6): Cameron Wake, Harold Landry, Sharif Finch, Kamalei Correa, D’Andre Walker, Derick Roberson

    Roberson has flashed during training camp with his pass-rushing ability, so he may beat the odds and earn a spot as an undrafted free agent. It’s been a fairly quiet camp for Walker, but draft picks generally get the benefit of the doubt early on.

    ILB (5): Rashaan Evans, Jayon Brown, Wesley Woodyard, Daren Bates, David Long

    Bates’ work as a special teamer will boost his cause, and the rookie Long has had a solid camp. Riley Bullough is a possibility here as well, but it’s hard to believe the team would keep six inside linebackers. Bullough suffered an injury Thursday as well, though Vrabel didn’t have an update on how significant it was.

    CB (5): Logan Ryan, Malcolm Butler, Adoree Jackson, LeShaun Sims, Tye Smith

    Kenneth Durden is a candidate to make the team, especially if the Titans keep six corners. But if the number is five, I think Smith gets the nod. He played well for the Titans in 2017 before getting hurt last year.

    Safety (5): Kevin Byard, Kenny Vaccaro, Amani Hooker, Dane Cruikshank, Josh Kalu

    Cruikshank made some big-time special-teams plays for the Titans last year. I like Kalu as a fifth safety because he has good versatility. He could play corner if necessary.

    Kicker (1): Ryan Succop

    Punter (1): Brett Kern

    LS (1): Beau Brinkley

    KR: Raymond

    PR: Humphries

    Last 5 out: Jennings, Jeremy McNichols, Kenneth Durden, Stinnie, Mack
  7. Cornelius Suttree

    Cornelius Suttree I am a landmine
    Donor TMB OG

    Titans observations: What a relief, backup QB job looks to be in a much better place

    PHILADELPHIA — One of the biggest causes of Saturday-night sleeplessness among Titans fans in recent years has been the Marcus Mariota watch.

    The team’s starting quarterback was listed on the injury report leading up to 10 of the Titans’ 16 games last season, for instance, leaving supporters wondering whether Sunday’s starter would be Mariota or … a big dropoff.

    Backups Zach Mettenberger, Matt Cassel and Blaine Gabbert didn’t produce much in the way of confidence or victories over the past four years, posting a combined starting record of 3-5.

    But the level of stress over Mariota injuries should be greatly reduced this season, based on the performance of backup quarterback Ryan Tannehill in the Titans’ 27-10 win Thursday over Philadelphia.

    Tannehill, playing a second-string role for the first time since his 2012 rookie season, looked comfortable and efficient in his Titans’ debut. The seven-year veteran was nearly flawless, completing 12-of-16 passes — three of the incompletions were drops — for 130 yards, two touchdowns and a 138.0 quarterback rating.

    “It was a lot of fun,” said Tannehill, who started all 88 regular-season games he played in Miami over the past six years.

    “I think we did some good things. Operationally, getting in and out of the huddle, playing with tempo, finishing. … I’ll have to look at the tape, but walking off the field, I felt like we did some of the things we wanted to do.”

    Tannehill led the Titans on a nine-play, 89-yard drive capped by a one-yard touchdown pass to MyCole Pruitt, and an 11-play, 87-yard drive capped by a nicely lofted 23-yard touchdown pass to Anthony Firkser.

    “(The goal for) every player on this team is to be ready to play,” Titans coach Mike Vrabel said. “Whether they start the game or whether they go in the game via injury or substitution, (they have to be) ready to go, and they have to give the team the best chance to win. Ryan was one of those guys that did that tonight, along with a lot of other guys.”

    If Vrabel didn’t sound absolutely overwhelming with his praise of Tannehill, there is good reason. The last thing he needs to do is pump up the backup too much, potentially pressuring Mariota and giving ammunition to those who’d like to start a quarterback controversy.

    There is none at the moment, of course, nor will there be at any point in the near future. Both Vrabel and Titans general manager Jon Robinson have made it clear Mariota is the man. So the fact that Mariota was so-so against Philadelphia’s starters — going 4-for-8 for 24 yards — and the fact that Tannehill produced big numbers against second-teamers won’t change anything.

    The 31-year-old Tannehill is comfortable in his role, noting that he’ll try to support Mariota the same way longtime Dolphins backup Matt Moore supported Tannehill.

    “I had a great relationship with Matt Moore for six years in Miami,” Tannehill said. “He did a great job backing me up and supporting me through the ups and the downs. I learned a lot unknowingly from him for this role.

    “So I’m just trying to do the best I can to push Marcus and compete in practice every day, push each other and get the most out of practice each and every day. And then if my number is called, just be ready.”

    His presence should soothe the jangled nerves of Titans fans.

    Hello, Humphries
    Way back in June, wide receiver Adam Humphries mentioned he felt a good connection the very first day he met Mariota.

    “We’re not scared to communicate things to each other,” Humphries said at the time. “After (a recent practice), Marcus sent me a long text after looking at a couple of routes I ran, just kind of letting me know what he’s thinking. And I’m telling him what I’m thinking, too. We feel comfortable bouncing ideas off each other and it’s really important to have that communication.”

    The chemistry seems only to have grown since, evidenced by the frequency Mariota looked for Humphries in a short amount of time on Thursday. Mariota threw six of his eight passes to Humphries, completing four of them for 24 yards. What was especially encouraging — for a Titans team looking to improve its third-down performance — is that Mariota successfully hit Humphries twice on third-down attempts.

    “That’s why Adam is here, to be a guy that’s reliable and dependable, for the quarterbacks to have trust in him,” Vrabel said. “I thought it was pretty windy early. I thought it was kind of swirling with the storm coming in. But we were able to convert a few times on third down.”

    Up-and-down Jackson
    Titans cornerback Adoree Jackson has said a few times this offseason he’s seeking more consistency heading into his third season.

    Consider that still a work in progress at this point.

    Jackson was beaten deep by Eagles receiver Marken Michel — a 26-year-old without a single regular-season catch — for a 75-yard touchdown pass. Jackson nearly knocked away the pass at the last second, but the bottom line is that he surrendered a huge play.

    To his credit, Jackson bounced back later in the first half, knocking away a couple of Philadelphia passes, including another deep ball. But the 2017 first-round pick — who is now the team’s third corner behind Malcolm Butler and Logan Ryan — has to be better.

    Both Vrabel and Jackson said afterward that Jackson was in position to make the play, but didn’t execute.

    “That’s being reckless, not being aggressive,” Vrabel said of Jackson’s attempt to undercut the pass. “Being aggressive would have been to take his left arm, the one closest to the ball, and bat it down. But it was great to see him come back and make some plays and challenge.”

    Added Jackson: “If I reached with the other hand, it would have been a (pass break-up). I went with the wrong hand … It’s not like I was beat. I was in position. I just have to make the play.”

    Sitting it out
    As expected, the Titans sat a number of players on Thursday.

    Among offensive players who didn’t see action: wide receiver Corey Davis, tight end Delanie Walker, running back David Fluellen, guard Rodger Saffold, running back Derrick Henry and wide receiver A.J. Brown.

    Among defenders who didn’t participate: defensive tackle Jurrell Casey, outside linebacker Cameron Wake, outside linebacker Harold Landry and defensive tackle Jeffery Simmons.
  8. JohnLocke

    JohnLocke Fire Pete Golding
    Alabama Crimson TideChicago CubsMemphis GrizzliesTennessee TitansNashville Predators

    Really looking forward to Rashaan and Jayon at MLB. Love Woodyard but if these two are both first string over him I think that speaks volumes on what the coaches expect out of the other two
  9. Taco Sa1ad

    Taco Sa1ad TMBSL
    Notre Dame Fighting IrishColorado BuffaloesAtlanta BravesTennessee TitansNashville Predators

    I keep talking to fans and its absurd how confident people are that we are half decent. I'm certain we will end up somewhere between 7-9 and 9-7.
  10. Fecta23

    Fecta23 Well-Known Member
    Oregon DucksSeattle MarinersPortland Trail Blazers

    10-6 seems very reasonable. Roster got a lot better, I dont think the schedule is as hard some people are making it out to be.
    DaveGrohl likes this.
  11. Taco Sa1ad

    Taco Sa1ad TMBSL
    Notre Dame Fighting IrishColorado BuffaloesAtlanta BravesTennessee TitansNashville Predators

    We don't have a competent, healthy QB, dawg.

    Teams that won 10 games without a competent QB last year? Bears (Best D in the league) and Ravens (great running QB at minimum)

    Teams that won 10 games without a competent QB in 2017? Vikings (top 5 defense, top 5 running game) and Jags (top 5 defense, top 5 running game)
  12. Fecta23

    Fecta23 Well-Known Member
    Oregon DucksSeattle MarinersPortland Trail Blazers

    Mariota being injury prone is a fine argument. Saying he isn't competent when healthy is laughable. Did you watch the Cowboys, Eagles or Patriots games last year ? We win 10 games last year if Nick Williams doesn't drop a wide open TD against Buffalo.
    DaveGrohl likes this.
  13. Cornelius Suttree

    Cornelius Suttree I am a landmine
    Donor TMB OG

    FootballOutsiders had Mariota at around 22-28 in most meaningful stats last year. PFF had Mariota 17th on their final list for 2018

    he's shown flashes of brilliance but generally been pretty average when he's been on the field. That's fine for a team with an elite D and explosive talent to surround that average QB. But he doesn't inspire a ton of confidence in me that he'll be able to lift this team and get them to play at a high level while Lewan is out and Henry likely to be slowed early in the year

    hopefully Corey Davis takes off this year and Mariota just stays freaking healthy
    Keywan1472 and Taco Sa1ad like this.
  14. DaveGrohl

    DaveGrohl Public Figure
    Alabama Crimson TideTennessee TitansWolverhampton Wanderers

    He was average when healthy with Mularkey running his 1970s offense. He was average when healthy under a first year HC and below average OL play.

    And lol Taco Sa1ad ’s “competent” remark. Gtfo
    Fecta23 and THEBLUERAIDER like this.
  15. Handcuffed

    Handcuffed TMB OG
    Staff Donor
    Seattle MarinersOregon DucksPortland TimbersPortland Trail Blazers

    this is definitely a make-or-break year for mariota imo with decent weapons (assuming henry and conklin aren't shit and walker is good in his return). it's really tough to evaluate him last year with his injuries that started in game 1.

    he wouldn't be out of the league if he's not good this year but he wouldn't be on the titans and he's likely not starting.
  16. Taco Sa1ad

    Taco Sa1ad TMBSL
    Notre Dame Fighting IrishColorado BuffaloesAtlanta BravesTennessee TitansNashville Predators

    Mariota's last two seasons:

    2017: 3200yds 13tds/15ints 58QBR
    2018: 2500yds 11tds/8ints 53QBR

    Those aren't competent QB numbers. You can always say "well he wasn't healthy that year" but at some point "not healthy" becomes who Mariota is. He's a great person etc etc but at some point, we Titans fans need to quit drinking the coolaid. He has 1 good season out of 4.
    JohnLocke likes this.
  17. Fecta23

    Fecta23 Well-Known Member
    Oregon DucksSeattle MarinersPortland Trail Blazers

    2017 he was bad ( still won a road playoff game). 2018 he was good. PFF had him 17th last year, which is at the very least competent.
  18. Taco Sa1ad

    Taco Sa1ad TMBSL
    Notre Dame Fighting IrishColorado BuffaloesAtlanta BravesTennessee TitansNashville Predators

    "Welcome to the Tennessee Titans where 17th best is good enough for us!"
  19. JohnLocke

    JohnLocke Fire Pete Golding
    Alabama Crimson TideChicago CubsMemphis GrizzliesTennessee TitansNashville Predators

    This is where I'm at. He has this year to show that he can be special or not. Love the guy as a person but something has to be proven now
  20. Keywan1472

    Keywan1472 Here for the ride

    I haven’t been on his bandwagon since he got here. Be glad when Mr. Glass is gone and we can #TankforTrevor
  21. Capstone 88

    Capstone 88 Going hard in the paint
    Alabama Crimson TideAtlanta BravesTennessee TitansNashville Predators2pac

    I’m firmly on team “Mariota is not the future at QB if the Titans want to be a deep playoff threat/possible SB contender”
  22. Cornelius Suttree

    Cornelius Suttree I am a landmine
    Donor TMB OG

    Joe Rexrode officially to The Athletic so give him a follow along with Glennon

    Happy for him
  23. Fecta23

    Fecta23 Well-Known Member
    Oregon DucksSeattle MarinersPortland Trail Blazers

    You said he wasn't competent. Just addressing that argument.
  24. UncleItchyBalls

    UncleItchyBalls Fan of: The Tide, PDL and Processing kickers
    Alabama Crimson TideAtlanta BravesTennessee Titans

    I actually think Marcus has a pretty good year but we still go 8-8

    *assuming that he stays healthy
  25. Keywan1472

    Keywan1472 Here for the ride

    8-8? Should’ve just kept Jeff Fisher all these years.
  26. Cornelius Suttree

    Cornelius Suttree I am a landmine
    Donor TMB OG

    roster projection from August 19th

    Here’s the second installment of our 53-man projection:

    QB (3): Marcus Mariota, Ryan Tannehill, Logan Woodside

    Both Mariota (6-for-9, 63 yards, 1 TD) and Tannehill (7-for-11, 84 yards, 1 TD) had solid performances in the loss to the Patriots. The news here is that I’m now including Woodside on the 53-man roster. It’s not because of his performance on Saturday, as Woodside was just 4-for-13 for 72 yards. But he’s been very good in camp and had a strong outing in Week 1 of the preseason. The Titans wanted to keep a potential backup quarterback of the future last year, but they were burned when they tried to put Luke Falk on the practice squad and he was added to Miami’s 53-man roster. That experience might lead them to keep Woodside among the final 53 this year.

    RB (3): Derrick Henry, Dion Lewis, David Fluellen

    The longer that Fluellen remains out with injury, the more concern there has to be about his roster spot. Jeremy McNichols caught three passes out of the backfield Saturday to help bolster his case. I’m also wondering — if Fluellen doesn’t get a spot — whether the Titans might be more likely to keep tight end Ryan Hewitt because of his extensive H-back experience in the NFL.

    WR (6): Corey Davis, Tajae Sharpe, Adam Humphries, Taywan Taylor, A.J. Brown, Darius Jennings

    A week ago I had Kalif Raymond earning a roster spot, following a standout performance against Philadelphia. But I thought he struggled this week in practices against the Patriots, and he didn’t get many opportunities to prove himself Saturday. Jennings has been a little more consistent of late, so I’ll go with him.

    TE (4): Delanie Walker, Jonnu Smith, Anthony Firkser, Ryan Hewitt

    Walker looked as if he’s well on his way back to form with Saturday’s performance. Smith is making gradual strides back toward being healthy in his on-field work. MyCole Pruitt is certainly an option here, as he is likely the best blocker of the group. But I’m giving the edge right now to Hewitt because — as I mentioned earlier — I think his H-back experience could be valuable if Fluellen remains out with injury.

    OL (9*): Jack Conklin, Dennis Kelly, Rodger Saffold, Kevin Pamphile, Nate Davis, Ben Jones, Corey Levin, Austin Pasztor, Jamil Douglas (Taylor Lewan, suspended first four games)

    One of the big questions here is just when Davis returns to action. I don’t think the rookie can win the Week 1 starting job at this point, but the Titans could certainly use the depth. I’m keeping Pasztor not because he’s played very well, but because Tyler Marz has been even worse. If the Titans lose either Conklin or Kelly in the first four weeks, the situation could be grim.

    DL (5): Urban, Jones, Casey, Johnson, Dickerson (Simmons, PUP)

    As I mentioned in the lead, I’d really like to include Mack in this group, as I think he’s made a very good impression in camp and the preseason games. But if the Titans keep a sixth defensive lineman, maybe the edge goes to Bledsoe, as he could help out a fairly thin outside linebacker group if necessary.

    OLB (5): Cameron Wake, Harold Landry, Sharif Finch, Kamalei Correa, Derick Roberson

    This position wasn’t particularly deep to begin with, and it took another hit when the Titans lost fifth-round pick D’Andre Walker for the season due to injury. The good news is that inside linebacker Rashaan Evans could slide outside if need be. I’m still holding onto Roberson, the undrafted free agent with good pass-rush potential. But he’s looked better in practice than in the preseason games.

    ILB (5): Evans, Jayon Brown, Wesley Woodyard, Daren Bates, David Long

    The big three of Evans, Brown and Woodyard is a talented group that should serve the Titans well. Bates must excel on special teams. The Titans like Long’s aggressiveness and raw skills, even if he is a bit of a work in progress.

    CB (5): Logan Ryan, Malcolm Butler, Adoree Jackson, LeShaun Sims, Tye Smith

    This might well be the Titans’ deepest — and best — position. The top three are all quality corners, Sims has plenty of experience at the fourth spot and Smith is a talented fifth. Kenneth Durden is good, too, and he would likely be the man if the Titans went with six at this position.

    Safety (5): Kevin Byard, Kenny Vaccaro, Amani Hooker, Dane Cruikshank, Josh Kalu

    No changes here from the Preseason Week 1 projections. Hooker had some lapses in the practices against the Patriots but seems to be progressing overall. Cruikshank is a special-teams standout and Kalu’s value lies in his versatility, as he can also play cornerback if need be.

    Kicker (1): Ryan Succop

    Punter (1) Brett Kern

    LS (1): Beau Brinkley

    KR: Jennings

    PR: Humphries

    Last 5 out: Mack, Durden, McNichols, Pruitt, Raymond,

    * Neither Lewan nor Simmons will count toward the Titans’ 53-man roster at the start of the season.
    JohnLocke likes this.
  27. Cornelius Suttree

    Cornelius Suttree I am a landmine
    Donor TMB OG

    from 8/22

    12 key Titans are in contract years: What’s ahead for each player, including Marcus Mariota and Derrick Henry

    In his playing days with New England, Mike Vrabel remembers teammate Tedy Bruschi delivering a common greeting to any Patriots player who’d recently signed a new contract.

    “Tedy would always say, ‘Congratulations, we’re happy for you. But you can leave your money outside the locker room,’” Vrabel said.

    The intended message was a simple one: Regardless of what was happening with a player on the business front — good or bad — he still had a responsibility to do his job for the team.

    Vrabel must hope his players today can maintain that same sense of football focus as the Titans head into the 2019 season with a large number of significant players in the final years of their contracts.

    At least 10 current Titans starters — and several other key players — are without a contract beyond this season. That means the Titans, should they choose, could have a vastly different appearance in 2020. But it’s also possible players will be re-signed during the season as performance dictates.

    “We’ll be able to take a look at peoples’ contracts as they come up,” Vrabel said. “That’s what (Titans general manager Jon Robinson) is going to be doing, and probably is doing.”

    Vrabel said contract years were no different for him than other years, but that’s not the case for all players.

    Titans cornerback Malcolm Butler, for example, said Wednesday he wishes he had a do-over for his final year in New England when he probably concerned himself too much with what the future held. His 2017 season infamously ended in a benching during the Super Bowl, when the Patriots lost to Philadelphia.

    “If I could go back, I’d do (the contract year) better than what I did,” Butler said. “Because what got you here is what is going to get you paid. So you can never change that mindset of that hungriness, the humbleness, the passion, the love, the feel for the game.

    “When you start thinking about, ‘I need to get this certain amount of yards, this certain amount of picks, this certain amount of sacks, it don’t work.’ Because you’re not really focused on playing football. You’re focused on playing football to get paid.”

    Other players believe a contract year brings out the best in them, since their new deals will depend to some degree on their performance that season.

    “To me, (a contract year) is a blessing, not a weight,” said Titans cornerback Logan Ryan, who will head into the second contract year of his career.

    “Free agency is something collectively bargained for and it gives the players option. I just gotta be me and help the team win, and the rest will take care of itself. I think those things are beneficial to one another.”

    Here’s a look at 12 of the Titans’ most significant potential unrestricted free agents, as well as a glimpse into their future:

    Marcus Mariota
    Position: Quarterback

    NFL experience: Entering his fifth season

    2019 cap hit: $20.9 million

    What’s ahead: This is easily the most significant question mark going forward. Should Mariota have a strong season, the Titans might sign him to a lucrative long-term deal, perhaps similar to the one Philadelphia’s Carson Wentz signed a couple of months ago (4 years, $128 million). On the other hand, if Mariota struggles, he’ll likely be playing in a different uniform next year. Then there’s the in-between option, as the Titans could choose to franchise Mariota in 2020, likely paying him somewhere in the ballpark of $25 million.

    Logan Ryan
    Position: Cornerback

    NFL experience: Entering his seventh season

    2019 cap hit: $10.7 million

    What’s ahead: Aside from not picking off a pass, Ryan has had a strong two seasons with the Titans, and has helped the cornerback position become a real strength of the team. But will the Titans be ready to pony up big bucks and another multi-year deal for Ryan, who will turn 29 next February? It’s not out of the question, but the Titans might also seek a less expensive option, perhaps LeShaun Sims or even versatile rookie Amani Hooker.

    Ben Jones
    Position: Center

    NFL experience: Entering his eighth season

    2019 cap hit: $5.4 million

    What’s ahead: Jones has been a dependable, intelligent man in the middle for the Titans over the past three seasons. His versatility is an asset, too, as he could play guard if need be. But Corey Levin may be ready to take over Jones’ position in 2020.

    Jack Conklin
    Position: Right tackle

    NFL experience: Entering his fourth season

    2019 cap hit: $5 million

    What’s ahead: Conklin’s future was thrown into doubt when the Titans opted against picking up his fifth-year option, which would have kept him under contract in 2020. It was hard for the team to commit big money to him given the knee problems that have hampered his past two seasons. But Conklin has looked more like his old self through training camp, and if that keeps up into the season, the Titans would be wise to re-sign him.

    Wesley Woodyard
    Position: Inside linebacker

    NFL experience: Entering his 12th season

    2019 cap hit: $4.1 million

    What’s ahead: Those waiting for the 33-year-old Woodyard to show his age shouldn’t hold their breath. He piled up 124 tackles last season — the third-highest total of his career — as well as 4.5 sacks. Still, it wouldn’t be shocking if this was Woodyard’s last year with the team. The highly respected leader has been bypassed by Jayon Brown and Rashaan Evans on the depth chart, and the Titans seem to like the potential of rookie David Long inside as well.

    Tajae Sharpe
    Position: Wide receiver

    NFL experience: Entering his fourth season

    2019 cap hit: $2.1 million

    What’s ahead: Sharpe has been one of the better 2019 training-camp stories, as he appears to be bouncing back favorably after catching just 26 passes last season. But he’ll still need a good season to earn another contract here. He’d be no higher on the depth chart than the fourth receiver for years to come, so the Titans might look at other options if Sharpe is just so-so this year.

    Ryan Tannehill
    Position: Quarterback

    NFL experience: Entering his seventh season

    2019 cap hit: $1.9 million

    What’s ahead: If Mariota has a good year, this will obviously be Tannehill’s only year here, as he could find a starter’s role elsewhere in 2020. But if Tannehill assumes the starter’s role at some point — and plays well — he could be the man of the future here. If so, the same variables would apply to him as listed for Mariota above — a whopper of a long-term deal or a franchise tag.

    Derrick Henry
    Position: Running back

    NFL experience: Entering his fourth season

    2019 cap hit: $1.7 million

    What’s ahead: There was a school of thought that had the Titans extending Henry prior to this 2019 season, as they did with Kevin Byard. But the team was wisely cautious. As dominant as Henry was during the final month of the 2018 season, he needs to show he can do that on a long-term basis. Should Henry continue what he started last year, the Titans would almost certainly re-sign him, especially since most running-back salaries these days aren’t back-breakers. There have been a couple of recent whoppers, like Le’Veon Bell (4 years, $52.5 million) and Todd Gurley (4 years, $57.5 million). But Henry’s range — if he topped 1,000 yards for a second consecutive season — might be more along the lines of what Atlanta’s Devonta Freeman signed back in 2017 (5 years, $41.2 million), probably less.

    Dennis Kelly
    Position: Tackle

    NFL experience: Entering his eighth season

    2019 cap hit: $1.6 million

    What’s ahead: Kelly has proven an excellent third tackle for the Titans, something that will be valuable once again with Taylor Lewan’s four-game suspension. He’ll turn 30 in January, but if he plays well this season, the Titans might have interest in bringing him back at a reasonable cost. But younger and less expensive options would likely be considered as well.

    Brent Urban
    Position: Defensive line

    NFL experience: Entering his sixth season

    2019 cap hit: $1.6 million

    What’s ahead: The 6-7, 300-pound Urban has the potential to be a good fit here, since he’s a big, athletic player with familiarity in Dean Pees’ system. But in order to get another contract, he has to show he can stay healthy, which has been an issue during his career.

    Kevin Pamphile
    Position: Guard/Tackle

    NFL experience: Entering his sixth season

    2019 cap hit: $1.4 million

    What’s ahead: One of Pamphile’s strengths is his versatility, as he can play tackle and guard. It’s looking more and more like he’ll be the Titans’ starting right guard in Week 1, so he should have a great chance to show his worth — at least until rookie Nate Davis gets up to speed.

    Beau Brinkley
    Position: Long-snapper

    NFL experience: Entering his eighth season

    2019 cap hit: $1.4 million

    What’s ahead: The longer Brinkley stays close to anonymous — making one good snap after another — the better his odds of getting another contract. Let’s remember that Brinkley’s predecessor, Ken Amato, spent nine seasons as the Titans’ long-snapper. Teams only want to pay so much, of course, to long-snappers, so there’s always a chance the Titans could look for a replacement.

    *All contract information courtesy of Overthecap.com and Spotrac.com

    I'd recommend signing up for The Athletic if you like the Preds and/or Titans. Vingan, Rexrode and Glennon are a really nice trio to have on the Nashville pro sports beat
    Joystick Izzy likes this.
  28. Eathan Edwards

    Eathan Edwards Well-Known Member

    Supposedly Brown is close to being back to normal - according to Ole Miss Nashville people.

    Not sure what y’all are hearing in general about him though. Hopefully accurate and he has a big season.
    Fecta23 likes this.
  29. Cornelius Suttree

    Cornelius Suttree I am a landmine
    Donor TMB OG

    every single report I've seen suggests Conklin looks like himself again and I'm hopeful his play in the regular season reflects that. He was so good early on

    also everyone saying Adoree should be out of the mix for punt returns at this point. Succop was activated off the PUP list and played vs the Steelers
    DaveGrohl likes this.
  30. Cornelius Suttree

    Cornelius Suttree I am a landmine
    Donor TMB OG

    roster projection from Glennon today:

    When Titans training camp began a month ago, defensive lineman Isaiah Mack wasn’t a name that drew much attention.

    Sure, the former Chattanooga standout had excelled on the college level, but would Mack’s play in the Southern Conference of the FCS really translate to the NFL level?

    So far, the answer appears to be yes, as the 6-1, 299-pounder is increasingly making his presence felt in the middle of the Titans’ defensive line.

    Granted, Mack has gone head-to-head primarily with opponents’ second- and third-team offensive linemen to date. But he’s fared well in those battles. In Sunday’s win over Pittsburgh, Mack recorded the top overall grade (89.4) of any Titans defender with more than 10 snaps, per Pro Football Focus. Through three preseason games, PFF has graded Mack overall at 74.5, the second-best number for any Titans defender with at least 50 snaps.

    I think the Titans may need to keep Mack on the 53-man roster now if they want to hold on to him, as opposed to trying to slide him on to the practice squad.

    But making room for Mack could put the Titans in an interesting dilemma. The Titans have five other NFL-caliber defensive linemen as well — Jurrell Casey, DaQuan Jones, Austin Johnson, Brent Urban and Matt Dickerson.

    Could a 3-4 team like the Titans really afford to keep six defensive linemen on the opening-week roster, especially knowing that first-round draft pick Jeffery Simmons is likely to return at some point?

    Using Mike Vrabel’s first year as a reference point, the Titans kept five defensive linemen on the opening-week roster. But the team actually used only four in that first game (Casey, Jones and Johnson), as Dickerson didn’t see any action.

    “We’re going to try to keep the right 53 guys,” Vrabel said. “Keep three defensive linemen, keep seven defensive linemen, there’s a lot of combinations to get to 53. I’m not going to go through them all. I’ll save you the boring details of my math.”

    It’s a situation that bears watching.

    Might the Titans consider trading a player like Urban or Johnson, for instance, if they felt good about the futures of players like Dickerson and Mack?

    Might the Titans even consider releasing Urban, who would only cost the team $250,000 in dead money?

    In my latest 53-man roster projection below, I’ve got the Titans keeping Mack as well as the other five defensive linemen on the roster. But it would make more sense for the Titans to carry five defensive linemen into the opener. That would allow the team to keep an extra linebacker, defensive back or even running back, spots where depth might be better served.

    Here’s a look at all the predictions:

    QB (3): Marcus Mariota, Ryan Tannehill. Logan Woodside

    Mariota hardly had a classic preseason tune-up against the Steelers, as he failed to complete a pass in three attempts (one was dropped by Adam Humphries). He was also bowled over the end zone for a safety. Tannehill was solid, hitting on 6-of-9 passes, but he still couldn’t march the Titans into the end zone. Woodside had another accurate outing (11 for 15), and I still think he earns a roster spot based on next year as much as this year.

    RB (3): Derrick Henry, Dion Lewis, David Fluellen

    It has to be just a little anxiety-provoking for the Titans that two of the three backs on this list haven’t played in any of the preseason games — and haven’t practiced much at all, either. Henry appears to be making incremental strides toward full health, and we have to assume that Fluellen will be healthy — or he likely would have been put on IR by now. Jeremy McNichols has ripped off a few nice runs in the preseason and improved his special-teams work, but I still think — if Henry and Fluellen are healthy — he’s on the wrong side of the bubble. If Fluellen needs more time to get game-ready, maybe McNichols sticks until that occurs.

    WR (6): Corey Davis, Tajae Sharpe, Adam Humphries, Taywan Taylor, A.J. Brown, Darius Jennings

    It’s been a pretty quiet preseason for these six receivers, who’ve combined for just 17 catches and zero touchdowns in three games. Sharpe has yet to catch a pass, while Davis has two receptions for 45 yards. It’s tempting to wonder about Taylor, considering he saw just 21 snaps against Pittsburgh — down from 34 in Week 1 and 35 in Week 2. But I still have to think the Titans will stick with these half dozen. Jennings has seemingly done enough to fend off Kalif Raymond at No. 6.

    TE (4): Delanie Walker, Jonnu Smith, Anthony Firkser, MyCole Pruitt

    We still haven’t seen Smith in three preseason games, but he’s at least returned to practice on a regular basis. I’ve flip-flopped on the fourth tight end, going back to Pruitt over Ryan Hewitt. Again, if we’re assuming Fluellen is going to be healthy for the start of the regular season, then it seems to me there’s less need for an H-back specialist like Hewitt. Pruitt is the better of the two on the line of scrimmage.

    OL (9*): Jack Conklin, Dennis Kelly, Rodger Saffold, Kevin Pamphile, Nate Davis, Ben Jones, Corey Levin, Jamil Douglas, tackle from another roster. (Taylor Lewan, suspended first four games)

    I had Austin Pasztor making the team last week, but the more I think about it, the more likely it is the Titans find another tackle off the waiver wire. It’s been that kind of preseason for Pasztor and Tyler Marz, who have failed to take advantage of the opportunity provided by Lewan’s suspension. If either Kelly or Conklin go down in the first four weeks, the Titans would probably move Pamphile to tackle, a position he’s played in the past. The fact that Davis is still not practicing regularly makes me more inclined to hold on to the versatile Douglas, at least for a while.

    DL (6*): Brent Urban, DaQuan Jones, Jurrell Casey, Austin Johnson, Matt Dickerson, Isaiah Mack (Jeffery Simmons, PUP)

    As I mentioned in the lead, I think Mack has done enough that the Titans need to keep him on the 53-man roster or risk losing him on waivers. But six defensive linemen just seems like too many for a 3-4 defense, so if the team keeps Mack, maybe a trade might be in order.

    OLB (5): Cameron Wake, Harold Landry, Sharif Finch, Kamalei Correa, linebacker off another roster

    I’d been going with undrafted free agent Derick Roberson as the fifth outside linebacker here, in large part because of his raw potential. But Roberson just hasn’t done enough to earn a roster spot, and he seems like a perfect candidate for the practice squad. The Titans could use a dependable veteran at this spot, and I’m sure some will be available when other teams make their final cuts.

    ILB (5): Rashaan Evans, Jayon Brown, Wesley Woodyard, Daren Bates, David Long

    This group has been pretty stable throughout training camp and the preseason. The Titans have, in effect, three starters that they can mix and match effectively. Bates is likely the team’s top special-teams player, while Long has been getting more and more special-teams responsibility — which is a necessity for him as the fifth linebacker.

    CB (5): Logan Ryan, Malcolm Butler, Adoree Jackson, LeShaun Sims, Tye Smith

    We’ve been saying all preseason that this group is likely the Titans’ deepest. But a little luster was taken off the corners on Sunday when Sims (the team’s fourth corner) was beaten deep by JuJu Smith-Schuster for one touchdown and Kenneth Durden (probably the sixth corner) was also beaten for a long touchdown. Durden didn’t look good on that play, which isn’t going to help a guy on the bubble.

    S (4): Kevin Byard, Kenny Vaccaro, Amani Hooker, Dane Cruikshank

    I’ve had five safeties on this list in each of the previous projections, including Josh Kalu here because of his versatility. In the end, that may well be the case, but I’m eliminating Kalu for the moment because I haven’t seen too much from him in training camp or the preseason. He also suffered an injury in the loss to the Steelers.

    K (1): Ryan Succop

    P (1): Brett Kern

    LS (1): Beau Brinkley

    KR: Jennings

    PR: Humphries

    Last 5 out: Kalu, Durden, McNichols, Hewitt, Amani Bledsoe.

    * Neither Lewan nor Simmons will count toward the Titans’ 53-man roster at the start of the season.
    UncleItchyBalls likes this.
  31. JohnLocke

    JohnLocke Fire Pete Golding
    Alabama Crimson TideChicago CubsMemphis GrizzliesTennessee TitansNashville Predators

    So we're getting Jalen Ramsey at some point right? The guy seems pretty transparent that he wants to play for the Titans
    Walt Disney likes this.
  32. DaveGrohl

    DaveGrohl Public Figure
    Alabama Crimson TideTennessee TitansWolverhampton Wanderers

    Did I miss something?
  33. JohnLocke

    JohnLocke Fire Pete Golding
    Alabama Crimson TideChicago CubsMemphis GrizzliesTennessee TitansNashville Predators

    He's been posting pictures of him as a kid in Titans gear and saying all types of things about his fandom of us growing up. He also spent the majority of the offseason training with all of our players and is always chatting it up with guys like Lewan and others on social media. He wants to be a Titan
    DaveGrohl likes this.
  34. UncleItchyBalls

    UncleItchyBalls Fan of: The Tide, PDL and Processing kickers
    Alabama Crimson TideAtlanta BravesTennessee Titans

    Changing to 9-7 with Luck gone and the Houston rb situation

    Walt Disney likes this.
  35. Cornelius Suttree

    Cornelius Suttree I am a landmine
    Donor TMB OG

    Titans roster analysis: Shakeup at receiver and Dalyn Dawkins remains

    The Titans threw a little bit of spice into Saturday’s final roster moves, trading away a third-round draft pick from 2018, adding surprise names at wide receiver, running back and offensive line, and cutting an experienced offensive lineman.

    What’s it all mean?

    Well, we won’t know for sure whether this is the actual 53-man roster until Sunday, after the Titans and other teams sort through the waiver wire.

    But here are 15 observations on what the Titans look like at the moment:

    1. Welcome, Kalif
    Wide receiver Kalif Raymond’s ability to make the 53-man roster is certainly one of the feel-good stories of camp. How many 5-8, 182-pound undrafted free agents (2017 class) make any team’s 53-man roster — especially at the age of 25? Raymond was fearless through camp, whether catching passes or returning kicks and punts. He wound up leading the Titans with 13 preseason catches, and his average of 15.7 yards per reception is evidence of his speed and ability to get open down the field.

    2. Farewell, Taywan
    This had to be the biggest disappointing move of the day for the Titans, who sent wide receiver Tayway Taylor — a third-round pick in 2017 — to Cleveland for a reported seventh-round draft choice.

    Taylor never developed as a consistent receiving threat in two years, totaling 53 catches for 697 yards and two touchdowns. The former Western Kentucky star was easy to root for, one of the most humble and down-to-earth guys in the locker room. But there were just too many drops, too many mistakes. Credit Titans general manager Jon Robinson for not keeping Taylor on the roster just because he was a recent high draft pick. He also recouped the seventh-round pick he sent to Green Bay for linebacker Reggie Gilbert.

    3. Making the fourth one count
    It’s often said that the NFL’s fourth preseason game is meaningless, but don’t tell that to running back Dalyn Dawkins after he earned a spot on the team’s 53-man roster. An injury sidelined Dawkins for Weeks 2 and 3 of the preseason, but he put on a show in Week 4, running for 117 yards — including six runs of 10 yards or more — and catching two touchdown passes. While it’s true the Titans knew him from the previous year — when he was on the practice squad and 53-man roster at various times — it’s hard to believe he would have made the club without excelling against the Bears.

    4. Hard Knocks Kid
    The addition of Dawkins on the 53-man roster came at the expense of running back Jeremy McNichols, who was cut by his fourth NFL team. McNichols played a big part in HBO’s “Hard Knocks” of 2017, when the Buccaneers surprisingly cut him after drafting him that same year. The 5-9, 205-pound McNichols did have his moments in the Titans’ preseason, picking up 60 yards on two carries. But his other 24 carries went for just 48 yards. He didn’t do enough to stand out as a running back or special-teams performer.

    5. Fluellen fine?
    David Fluellen suffered a training-camp injury and only last week returned to practice. But the running back turned fullback is apparently on the right path, as he was part of the 53-man roster. Fluellen’s availability might have played into the release of tight end Ryan Hewitt, who was an H-back specialist.

    6. Two-quarterback team
    Logan Woodside did almost everything he could have to earn a roster spot. In four preseason games, Woodside completed 46-of-76 passes (60.5 percent) for 539 yards, throwing four touchdowns versus zero interceptions. One school of thought had the Titans keeping Woodside on the roster, grooming him this year at No. 3 so he could be a quality No. 2 next year. But the Titans decided to keep just two quarterbacks, Marcus Mariota and Ryan Tannehill. So we’ll have to see whether Woodside gets picked up on waivers, or if the Titans can slide him onto the practice squad. Last year, the Titans tried a similar maneuver, hoping to place quarterback Luke Falk on the practice squad. But he was snapped up by Miami for its 53-man roster.

    7. Pruitt over Hewitt
    The last tight end spot on the Titans’ roster appeared to come down to Hewitt and MyCole Pruitt. As noted above, Hewitt has more H-back experience, which might have been necessary if Fluellen wasn’t ready to play. But Pruitt was the better blocker on the line of scrimmage, something the Titans needed after the departure of Luke Stocker.

    8. Chattanooga disappointment
    One of the more surprising cuts was former Chattanooga offensive lineman Corey Levin, who’d been with the team for two years. He’d only started one game during that stretch, but was considered a solid reserve, one who could play both center and guard. Some even felt Levin might wind up starting at center this year, moving Ben Jones to guard. But Levin struggled at times during this preseason. Per Pro Football Focus, he posted a pass-blocking grade of just 29.0 (out of 100) in four contests.

    9. Surprise selection
    If Levin was one of the more surprising cuts, then tackle David Quessenberry was one of the more surprising selections for the 53-man group. The choice to keep Quessenberry over Levin may have had to do with the fact that the Titans have more players comfortable playing on the interior (Jamil Douglas, Kevin Pamphile, Rodger Saffold, Ben Jones, Nate Davis) than tackle (Jack Conklin, Dennis Kelly) at the moment, due to Taylor Lewan’s four-game suspension. Quessenberry is another feel-good story, of course, as he spent the 2014-16 seasons on the reserve/non-football illness list after being diagnosed with non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma in June 2014.

    10. Simmons to sit
    Titans coach Mike Vrabel on Friday praised the rapid progress that first-round draft pick Jeffery Simmons has made recovering from a torn ACL suffered in February. Simmons has become a regular working with Vrabel individually in the early stages of practice. Still, he’ll begin the season on the non-football injury reserve list. That means he can’t play or practice for at least the first six weeks of the season. Whenever the Titans choose to take him off the NFI-reserve list, he’ll have up to three weeks to practice before the team must either activate him or keep him on NFI-reserve all year. So in theory, Simmons could play as early as Week 7. But that might be a stretch with just one week of practice.

    11. Chattanooga cheers
    Despite the loss of Levin, Chattanooga kept one of its alums on the 53-man roster, as defensive lineman Isaiah Mack — an undrafted free agent — proved too valuable to release. The 6-1, 299-pound Mack had some big preseason moments. He was especially strong against the run, but also showed an ability to get after the quarterback. Mack has a great backstory, as The Athletic’s Joe Rexrode recently chronicled.

    12. Six-pack stays
    It seems a little surprising — to me, anyway — that the Titans held on to six defensive linemen. Tennessee is a 3-4 team and replaces some of its down-linemen with linebackers on passing plays, anyway, so it’s hard to see all six defensive linemen getting regular use. Last year, the Titans kept five defensive linemen on the first 53-man roster and only used four in the season opener. We’ll see if all six stick or whether the Titans trade one (perhaps Brent Urban or Austin Johnson), especially with Simmons eventually returning to the roster.

    13. Bigger, better
    There are still question marks about the Titans’ outside linebackers, especially considering Harold Landry didn’t play in a single preseason game. But the team’s corps of five looks bigger and deeper after adding Gilbert via trade on Thursday. The 6-3, 261-pound Gilbert may soon be No. 4 in the team’s rotation, bumping Kamalei Correa down a notch. In 2018, Gilbert posted six tackles for loss, 2½ sacks and 15 quarterback pressures.

    14. Kalu healthy?
    Vrabel said Josh Kalu was not available for last Thursday’s preseason finale due to injury. But it doesn’t look like the injury is too serious, as Kalu was one of the five safeties on the 53-man roster, joining Kevin Byard, Kenny Vaccaro, Amani Hooker and Dane Cruikshank. Kalu adds versatility to the defensive backfield, as he can play cornerback and safety.

    15. See you again?
    The Titans will likely see a number of Saturday’s released players again, as the team will be able to build its practice squad starting Sunday afternoon.

    Woodside might top the list, but some other recent cuts with practice-squad potential include defensive lineman Amani Bledsoe, edge rusher Derick Roberson, cornerback Kareem Orr and safety JoJo Tillery. Roberson flashed some of that raw pass-rushing potential in the preseason finale, picking up two sacks against the Bears.

    Here’s the full breakdown of the 53-man roster by position:

    QB (2): Marcus Mariota, Ryan Tannehill

    RB (4): Derrick Henry, Dion Lewis, David Fluellen, Dalyn Dawkins

    WR (6): Corey Davis, Tajae Sharpe, Adam Humphries, A.J. Brown, Darius Jennings, Kalif Raymond

    TE (4): Delanie Walker, Jonnu Smith, Anthony Firkser, MyCole Pruitt

    OL (8*): Jack Conklin, Dennis Kelly, Rodger Saffold, Kevin Pamphile, Nate Davis, Ben Jones, David Quessenberry, Jamil Douglas (Taylor Lewan, suspended first four games)

    DL (6*): Brent Urban, DaQuan Jones, Jurrell Casey, Austin Johnson, Matt Dickerson, Isaiah Mack (Jeffery Simmons, PUP)

    OLB (5): Cameron Wake, Harold Landry, Sharif Finch, Kamalei Correa, Reggie Gilbert

    ILB (5): Rashaan Evans, Jayon Brown, Wesley Woodyard, Daren Bates, David Long

    CB (5): Logan Ryan, Malcolm Butler, Adoree Jackson, LeShaun Sims, Tye Smith

    S (5): Kevin Byard, Kenny Vaccaro, Amani Hooker, Dane Cruikshank, Josh Kalu

    K (1): Ryan Succop

    P (1): Brett Kern

    LS (1): Beau Brinkley

    KR: Jennings

    PR: Humphries

    *Neither Lewan nor Simmons will count toward the Titans’ 53-man roster at the start of the season.
  36. Cornelius Suttree

    Cornelius Suttree I am a landmine
    Donor TMB OG

    NFL execs on what all 32 teams should worry about entering the year. For the Titans:

    Tennessee Titans
    The worry: Marcus Mariota’s health and performance came to mind immediately, but there was a lower-profile concern regarding the coaching staff.

    “They have yet another offensive coordinator and he’s never done it before, but don’t forget, (defensive coordinator) Dean Pees has retired once, and he had to step away a little bit for health reasons last season. He is a really good defensive coordinator, but age (Pees turns 70 this week) and health can be concerns for coaches, too, not just players. They don’t have a bunch of NFL experience on that defensive staff after the coordinator.”

  37. Cornelius Suttree

    Cornelius Suttree I am a landmine
    Donor TMB OG

    Five questions: The Titans’ biggest concerns, from Dennis Kelly to Derrick Henry

    In only a matter of days, we’ll finally have answers — cold, hard answers as to how good the Titans will be and how much improved their players will be.

    Until then, we can only continue to poke and probe, speculating on strengths and weaknesses.

    Preseason games gave us little idea of what to expect, watered down with a lack of game-planning and little playing time for starters.

    Only days before the Titans take on Cleveland, we’re still left with many unanswered questions and unknown quantities.

    Here are five of the big ones as we count down the hours until the season opens:

    1. Is Year 3 the breakout season for Davis?
    It’s sometimes said that wide receivers tend to make their big jumps between their second and third seasons.

    I looked back at the third season for all wide receivers taken in the first round between 2010 and 2016 to see how accurate that was, thinking it might offer a glimpse of what to expect from Corey Davis this year.

    But there was no clear-cut pattern for the first-rounders between 2010 and 2016.

    I did find that a handful of those players made significant leaps in their third season, such as Demaryius Thomas, Dez Bryant, DeAndre Hopkins, Mike Evans and Nelson Agholor.

    But even more had already made their big jumps in the second season. That group of first-rounders included A.J. Green, Julio Jones, Michael Floyd, Kendall Wright, Brandin Cooks and DeVante Parker.

    Where does that leave us for Davis, who had a good — but not incredible — second season with 65 catches for 891 yards and four touchdowns?

    A couple of months ago, my former colleague, Travis Haney, made a good case Davis would make the Pro Bowl, noting he nearly hit 1,000 yards last season despite all the injuries to Marcus Mariota and being the main focus of opponents’ defenses.

    But I’m a little more cautious when it comes to Davis having a big breakout season. I think he’ll improve his numbers, but I think the return of Delanie Walker and the addition of Adam Humphries — both of whom are likely to claim “safety-blanket” status under Mariota — will mean Davis doesn’t have to catch as many passes.

    I’m also curious as to whether we’ll see more consistent production from Davis. He exploded in some big contests last season, but he didn’t hit 50 receiving yards in any of his final five games and caught only one touchdown pass.

    2. Can Kelly pass his test?

    In 2018, Dennis Kelly played 367 snaps at right tackle and a grand total of two snaps at left tackle, per Pro Football Focus.

    Despite his unofficial title as being the team’s swing tackle, Kelly became far more accustomed to playing on the far right side of the line.

    Just how difficult will it be to flip everything around for Kelly, who is expected to start the team’s first four games at left tackle because of Taylor Lewan’s suspension? Keep in mind that transition only started at the beginning of training camp.

    “I guess it’d be like writing an article with your off-hand, moving from right to left,” Titans coach Mike Vrabel said by way of comparison. “We’re working through it and I think that there’s some positives in there. There’s some things that he has to improve on and we’ve got to help him.”

    As I noted Tuesday, Kelly could face a murderer’s row in the season’s first four weeks — Cleveland’s Myles Garrett (13.5 sacks last year), Indianapolis’ Justin Houston (9 sacks), Jacksonville’s Yannick Ngakoue (9.5 sacks) and Atlanta’s Vic Beasley Jr. (5 sacks).

    Kelly’s ability to protect Mariota — not to mention open running holes on the left — could go a long way toward determining the Titans’ success in the first four weeks.

    I asked Kelly how difficult it was to basically reverse everything he’d been doing last year in the span of a few weeks. (It should be pointed out that Kelly played 85 snaps at left tackle in 2017 and 68 in 2016.)

    “Yeah, there are challenges behind it, just because you get used to doing it one way, relying on your mechanisms on the right versus the left,” Kelly said. “So there is that aspect of trying to flip it mechanically.”

    Specifically, is changing footwork the most difficult aspect?

    “Yeah, especially if you’ve been doing (right tackle) for a while, you might have a tendency to (lean) on one side,” Kelly said. “If you know you have a good first kick (on the right side), that’s not your kick leg anymore on the left. So that kind of stuff can snag you a little bit.”

    Titans offensive line coach Keith Carter said he doesn’t think Kelly’s switch from right to left is as extreme as a left-handed batter deciding to hit from the right, but he acknowledged Kelly is still working to become as comfortable on the left.

    “We’re really focusing on certain things in terms of throwing his hands, and being at — we call it the intersection point — being at the right spot at the top of the pocket, where he’s in between him and his quarterback,” Carter said. “When he’s urgent in his set and he gets to that spot and he’s comfortable and confident, he’s really hard to run around or run through. He’s such a big body. I think he’s made some good strides in the last couple days getting there.”

    3. Which Henry shows up?

    Derrick Henry’s stats over the final month last season were worthy of his “King Henry” Twitter handle, as he ran 87 times for 585 yards, 6.72-yard average, and seven touchdowns over the final four games.

    But it’s hard to ignore that Henry’s inconsistency held him back for the rest of his three seasons, and that in the first 12 games of 2018, his production wasn’t nearly what it was later: 138 carries for 474 yards, a 3.4-yard average, and five touchdowns.

    I asked Titans running backs coach Tony Dews how they can ensure they get the real Henry.

    “Ensure?” Dews repeated with a smile. “I don’t know. You keep coaching him. You correct any of the mistakes we saw early on. Or even any mistakes he was making the last quarter of the season. We’ve watched a lot of film with him, looked at things, and now it’s just getting back out there and improving on the little fundamental things.”

    When he and Henry watched film, how marked a difference was there between Henry early and late in the season, and to what did he attribute that difference?

    “You know, toward the end of the year, obviously, he was running with a lot of confidence and physicality,” Dews said. “Not to say he wasn’t early in the year, but it just looked different, kind of in those two areas as you look at it.

    “The beauty of Derrick is he keeps working. He takes coaching. Derrick’s probably harder on himself than when we are as coaches on him. You can point things out to him, show him things on film, and he goes and works on it. When he has success, just like anybody else, you continue to build on it.”

    Said Henry: “I can’t have that inconsistency like I did last year. I have to play at that high level. … I just have to focus on being consistent, efficient and being a great player.”

    4. What impact will Brown have?
    Titans fans may have a sense of deja vu when asking how much should be expected of a highly drafted rookie wide receiver who was injured for much of training camp.

    It was just two years ago that the Titans went through a similar situation with Davis, the fifth overall pick in 2017. He missed the bulk of the offseason and preseason with ankle and hamstring injuries. Davis made an impressive showing in his rookie debut, catching six passes for 69 yards, but injury again sidelined him the following week and he wound up with 34 catches, 375 yards and zero touchdowns in 11 games that season.

    Will A.J. Brown — a second-round pick — follow a similar rookie path, considering he missed much of training camp and the preseason with a hamstring injury?

    First of all, remember it’s hard enough for healthy wide receivers to make the adjustment from college to the NFL.

    “I think for any young receiver, the transition from college to this level, it starts with just the speed of the game,” Mariota said. “You’re going against guys that are much better than some of the guys you played in college.

    “From there, just being able to learn just the little details of the routes. In college, I feel like you could kind of run the line on the paper. At this level … you’ve got to bring that picture to life. You’ve got to give it a little bit of your own flavor to it. I think for these young guys that are coming in, just understanding what’s going to make my game unique and what’s going to help me create separation to get open.”

    Brown recalls asking Mariota early on how long it took him to learn the playbook, and Mariota’s response — “probably like three months” — left Brown stunned. One silver lining of Brown’s injury is that he got to spend more time getting familiar with the Titans’ offensive strategies.

    Now the big question: Can he convert his book learning to game playing, something Brown would like to have had more experience doing in the preseason?

    “Just knowing what to do in the classroom is so different (from playing),” Brown said. “Being out there on the field and you see a whole bunch of guys moving around, you’ve got to know exactly what to do.

    “I think I’m at the point where I’m comfortable with whatever they throw at me. I’m just going to play fast. If I mess up, I mess up. But I can’t dwell on it. I just have to play fast.”

    Said Titans wide receivers coach Rob Moore: “I think the biggest challenge for him is to not get in his own way. Just let his natural ability speak for itself. He’s got great hands. He’s a big, strong, physical guy and (he should) just play to his strengths. Don’t let the game get too big for him.”

    5. What is Landry’s status?

    It was clear from the first time the media got a look at outside linebacker Harold Landry during the offseason that he was a changed man.

    Landry had added weight and muscle from his rookie year, looking even more like a menacing force on the edge.

    It was no surprise that Landry, a second-round pick in 2018, was getting rave reviews early in training camp.

    “Harold’s a guy that’s got a lot of talent, a lot of speed,” Titans tackle Jack Conklin said. “He can turn that into power and it’s hard to time up. It’s great to have him out there and to really see he’s hungry. He’s hungry for it and it will be fun to see him play.”

    Said guard Kevin Pamphile: “He’s definitely figured out how to be a pro and understanding the game, his technique, what fits him and what is good for the team. Obviously, he’s a huge asset, really fast and very smart as an athlete.”

    It was somewhat understandable Landry didn’t play in the preseason opener. The team might have wanted to take things slow with Landry, who was bothered by a nagging ankle injury in 2018.

    But things took a turn for the strange after the Titans’ training-camp practices with the Patriots. Landry missed the Titans’ next four practices, sat out the remaining three preseason games and only returned to full practice on Monday.

    I asked Vrabel early on if Landry had a new injury and he said no. Vrabel went on to say “it’s a long season,” indicating the Titans were being cautious with Landry to make sure he was healthy for the regular season.

    But if that was the case, why be so cautious regarding an injury that had been considered healed until about halfway through camp?

    The Titans really need production from Landry this year, as the team’s starting edge rushers last year — Brian Orakpo (573 snaps) and Derrick Morgan (532 snaps) — combined for just two sacks. Meanwhile, Landry (592 snaps) produced 4.5 sacks as a rookie.

    Assuming Landry is bigger, better and more experienced, it’s reasonable to expect him to pad those sack totals handsomely. But will missing so much training camp hurt him? And will he be 100 percent going into the opener?

    “He’s much improved,” Titans outside linebackers coach Shane Bowen said. “I think he’s understanding what’s going on, what we’re trying to do, what offenses are trying to do, what tackles are trying to do to him.

    “In the spring and early training camp, I thought he was having a great camp. So, we’ll see. Once we suit up on Sunday and get going, it will be interesting to see kind of if he can take the next step come game time.”

  38. mustang66

    mustang66 Well-Known Member
    Alabama Crimson TideTennessee TitansNashville Predators

    Really hoping Davis takes the next step this season. We have to have more from him and Adoree Jackson as first rounders
    Cornelius Suttree likes this.
  39. Cornelius Suttree

    Cornelius Suttree I am a landmine
    Donor TMB OG

  40. JohnLocke

    JohnLocke Fire Pete Golding
    Alabama Crimson TideChicago CubsMemphis GrizzliesTennessee TitansNashville Predators

    I did not miss watching the Titans OL
    DaveGrohl likes this.
  41. UncleItchyBalls

    UncleItchyBalls Fan of: The Tide, PDL and Processing kickers
    Alabama Crimson TideAtlanta BravesTennessee Titans

    that punt :lovelove:
    DaveGrohl likes this.
  42. DaveGrohl

    DaveGrohl Public Figure
    Alabama Crimson TideTennessee TitansWolverhampton Wanderers

    Wake is looking like a pretty good signing
    Jax Teller and UncleItchyBalls like this.
  43. JohnLocke

    JohnLocke Fire Pete Golding
    Alabama Crimson TideChicago CubsMemphis GrizzliesTennessee TitansNashville Predators

    Cameron Wake is here and he's beautiful
    Jax Teller and UncleItchyBalls like this.
  44. DaveGrohl

    DaveGrohl Public Figure
    Alabama Crimson TideTennessee TitansWolverhampton Wanderers

  45. UncleItchyBalls

    UncleItchyBalls Fan of: The Tide, PDL and Processing kickers
    Alabama Crimson TideAtlanta BravesTennessee Titans

    The browns are so fucking dumb we should be up by atleast two scores right now
    DaveGrohl likes this.
  46. Capstone 88

    Capstone 88 Going hard in the paint
    Alabama Crimson TideAtlanta BravesTennessee TitansNashville Predators2pac

    Really liking the D right now
    Walt Disney likes this.
  47. DaveGrohl

    DaveGrohl Public Figure
    Alabama Crimson TideTennessee TitansWolverhampton Wanderers

    Mariota 8/18

  48. JohnLocke

    JohnLocke Fire Pete Golding
    Alabama Crimson TideChicago CubsMemphis GrizzliesTennessee TitansNashville Predators

    Aj Brown looks tough! I'm loving it from him so far
    Jax Teller and UncleItchyBalls like this.
  49. Walt Disney

    Walt Disney #Dawgzy
    Donor TMB OG
    Georgia BulldogsManchester City


    That was huge
    UncleItchyBalls and JohnLocke like this.
  50. UncleItchyBalls

    UncleItchyBalls Fan of: The Tide, PDL and Processing kickers
    Alabama Crimson TideAtlanta BravesTennessee Titans